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And Stormont to be up and running again ?
Well it might be a long time , weeks or months or years ? …..
Well it might be a long time , weeks or months or years ? …..
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So the NIP doesn't need 'sorting' at all,it is working very well and might just need a tweak or two,the proof is there.
If the sensible proposals within the bill pass through parliament
It’s not acceptable as it is now
It’s not acceptable as it is now
Is that because NI is relatively prospering while the rest of the UK's economy is dire?
Is it because businesses will move from Britain to NI?
Is it simply because it is showing brexit for what it is,ie the single market is actually a good thing?
Is it to hide the sheer incompetence of Boris's 'great deal?
Are those the reasons why it isn't 'acceptable'?
Is it because businesses will move from Britain to NI?
Is it simply because it is showing brexit for what it is,ie the single market is actually a good thing?
Is it to hide the sheer incompetence of Boris's 'great deal?
Are those the reasons why it isn't 'acceptable'?
Lapsy I will explain to you , again
NI commerce and industry is heavily dependent on trade between GB and NI
This is its marketplace and any checks mean extra costs for companies in NI and GB
These costs will be passed on either to the people of NI or Britain or both
Or else companies will stop trading - that’s not sensible and that’s not acceptable
Hence the very sensible and moderate changes proposed in the new bill
NI commerce and industry is heavily dependent on trade between GB and NI
This is its marketplace and any checks mean extra costs for companies in NI and GB
These costs will be passed on either to the people of NI or Britain or both
Or else companies will stop trading - that’s not sensible and that’s not acceptable
Hence the very sensible and moderate changes proposed in the new bill
These companies will have extra costs if they were dealing with France/Germany or any other country in the EU.
Is that not true?
Looks like Stephen Kelly from Manufacturing NI is getting targetted,why? he is telling the truth about economic performance which is not suiting someones agenda.
Only for them(manufacturing NI) a lot less would be known re the figures,i'd have nodoubt they won't see the light of day.
Is that not true?
Looks like Stephen Kelly from Manufacturing NI is getting targetted,why? he is telling the truth about economic performance which is not suiting someones agenda.
Only for them(manufacturing NI) a lot less would be known re the figures,i'd have nodoubt they won't see the light of day.
No they won’t have ‘extra ‘costs
The only extra costs they will have is if the changes are not made
Those costs should be paid by the south of Ireland and the EU
Not British companies - lapsy you are going to have to understand it
Is not for us to pay your costs , sorry if you don’t like that
The only extra costs they will have is if the changes are not made
Those costs should be paid by the south of Ireland and the EU
Not British companies - lapsy you are going to have to understand it
Is not for us to pay your costs , sorry if you don’t like that
You have the option of doing checks on EU imports,you are suppose to but are not.Your 'brexit minister' Mogg says it is an act of self harm.
The EU checks goods if the standards are different.
The costs are 'brexit' you have left the EU.
The EU checks goods if the standards are different.
The costs are 'brexit' you have left the EU.
Let me take you through this slowly
There may or may not be ‘costs ‘ to Brexit , that’s one thing
But they are not extra costs - checks on goods on EU within the U.K. on EU goods
are EU costs not ours
We are not going to pay your costs for you , sorry
Now I don’t want to have to explain that again
There may or may not be ‘costs ‘ to Brexit , that’s one thing
But they are not extra costs - checks on goods on EU within the U.K. on EU goods
are EU costs not ours
We are not going to pay your costs for you , sorry
Now I don’t want to have to explain that again
But you aren't,isn't it EU people doing the checks in NI ports? Remember last year they got threats and had to stop checks for a while.
No the costs - which we have gone over before -is paid for by British companies
and the costs involved in doing the checks in NI ports are paid for by the British government
and British tax payer and that is why there is new legislation
and the costs involved in doing the checks in NI ports are paid for by the British government
and British tax payer and that is why there is new legislation
Thales-built equipment aiding Russia and recently Ukraine
nature of arms trade
Badge of honour
Gangsta
nature of arms trade
Badge of honour
Gangsta
NI engineering firm calls for protocol to be scrapped
saying it has already added an annual six figure cost to his business -
which is set to double when UK support ends
Ashley Pigott is managing director of AJ Power
which employs 125 people across sites in NI , Sweden ,
S Africa and Dubai
It manufactures diesel generators and exports 80% of its output
to more than 80 countries
The generators they manufacture are made up of 80% of components
supplied from England
Which means his company is facing the sharp end of EU customs requirements ,
when - ‘ importing ‘ from England
saying it has already added an annual six figure cost to his business -
which is set to double when UK support ends
Ashley Pigott is managing director of AJ Power
which employs 125 people across sites in NI , Sweden ,
S Africa and Dubai
It manufactures diesel generators and exports 80% of its output
to more than 80 countries
The generators they manufacture are made up of 80% of components
supplied from England
Which means his company is facing the sharp end of EU customs requirements ,
when - ‘ importing ‘ from England
The company managing director challenges
‘ pervading narrative ‘
And that the public narrative is not accurately reflecting
the difficulties being experienced by businesses like his
He said it was being distorted by trade associations , lazy journalism
and the overlying of ‘ remain politics ‘ on top of the commercial discussions
‘ pervading narrative ‘
And that the public narrative is not accurately reflecting
the difficulties being experienced by businesses like his
He said it was being distorted by trade associations , lazy journalism
and the overlying of ‘ remain politics ‘ on top of the commercial discussions
He said “ you have to understand that there is a narrative out there
that the protocol is good …and that is just what is being pushed at every turn “
that the protocol is good …and that is just what is being pushed at every turn “
I think that is what I have been trying to explain to you , for some time …
just saying
just saying
I'd have sympathy with that,the problem surely is a divergence of standards from EU standards.Saying that given that they are for export again would mean they very likely comply.
lfc197116 Jun 22 14:43Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 61,554 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
NI engineering firm calls for protocol to be scrapped
saying it has already added an annual six figure cost to his business -
which is set to double when UK support ends
Ashley Pigott is managing director of AJ Power
which employs 125 people across sites in NI , Sweden ,
S Africa and Dubai
It manufactures diesel generators and exports 80% of its output
to more than 80 countries
The generators they manufacture are made up of 80% of components
supplied from England
Which means his company is facing the sharp end of EU customs requirements ,
when - ‘ importing ‘ from England
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Total bullshit post the lad is moving these machines world wide so they must comply with EU requirements if going there, the British had to add additional rules on engineering markings under Brexit. There choice. If he was selling to EU no problems.
Clueless clowns, Brexit benefits, NONE.
NI engineering firm calls for protocol to be scrapped
saying it has already added an annual six figure cost to his business -
which is set to double when UK support ends
Ashley Pigott is managing director of AJ Power
which employs 125 people across sites in NI , Sweden ,
S Africa and Dubai
It manufactures diesel generators and exports 80% of its output
to more than 80 countries
The generators they manufacture are made up of 80% of components
supplied from England
Which means his company is facing the sharp end of EU customs requirements ,
when - ‘ importing ‘ from England
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Total bullshit post the lad is moving these machines world wide so they must comply with EU requirements if going there, the British had to add additional rules on engineering markings under Brexit. There choice. If he was selling to EU no problems.
Clueless clowns, Brexit benefits, NONE.
Malay do you not think it might be you that is clueless and not the managing director of this company ?
Now what has changed regarding exporting to over 80 countries world wide pre Brexit and post Brexit
And why is this company encountering extra costs ?
Go ahead ..
Now what has changed regarding exporting to over 80 countries world wide pre Brexit and post Brexit
And why is this company encountering extra costs ?
Go ahead ..
The MD gave examples of how the sea border hurts his business
he explained how when bringing a box in from Northampton
the haulage company will impose a protocol related surcharge due to the extra paperwork
Then the second half of the paperwork must be completed via the governments TSS service
This may trigger a further customs charge if the import is deemed to have originated from outside the U.K.
But the additional protocol related charges are £ 30-£50 with every shipment whether the item is worth £1 or £50 ,000
His company lists 15,000 components in their system which mostly come from GB
If TSS ends and the EU goes for full implementation of protocol rules then the company will face a further six figure sum
in full custom administration costs
His GB competitors will not incur these costs and have a competitive advantage with duty free access to EU markets
under the TCA free trade agreement
he explained how when bringing a box in from Northampton
the haulage company will impose a protocol related surcharge due to the extra paperwork
Then the second half of the paperwork must be completed via the governments TSS service
This may trigger a further customs charge if the import is deemed to have originated from outside the U.K.
But the additional protocol related charges are £ 30-£50 with every shipment whether the item is worth £1 or £50 ,000
His company lists 15,000 components in their system which mostly come from GB
If TSS ends and the EU goes for full implementation of protocol rules then the company will face a further six figure sum
in full custom administration costs
His GB competitors will not incur these costs and have a competitive advantage with duty free access to EU markets
under the TCA free trade agreement
The Irish nationalists and republicans are very good at shouting and being rude
That doesn’t help
That doesn’t help
The Irish nationalists are very good at laughing at the dup which is what it is all about not the protocol or business but the unionists losing their 'Britishness' 
I suggest you listen to what the MD of this engineering company is saying
about the costs to his company
Very rude to just dismiss it
about the costs to his company
Very rude to just dismiss it
A further complication will be country of origin rules
If any import from England are deemed to have been made with more than 50% non U.K. parts
it will not qualify as being of U.K. origin and the EU will impose up to 4.2% import duty
If any import from England are deemed to have been made with more than 50% non U.K. parts
it will not qualify as being of U.K. origin and the EU will impose up to 4.2% import duty
So therefore component manufacturers in England that supply GB and are not interested in supplying into Europe
will generally not be interested in supplying into N Ireland any longer
will generally not be interested in supplying into N Ireland any longer
LFC I deal with brexit **** on a daily basis to make money and i can assure you it was the stupidest thing ever voted for in England.
I disagree and you haven’t answered the question
what has changed for this company which trades with over 80 countries worldwide and where are the additional costs
for this engineering company ?
what has changed for this company which trades with over 80 countries worldwide and where are the additional costs
for this engineering company ?
The MDs wish list going forward is simple
“ Get rid of the protocol - and that is a business statement -
not a political statement “
“ Get rid of the protocol - and that is a business statement -
not a political statement “
No,it is working well for most, 52 out of the 90 MLAs in Stormont want no change to it.
HocGFA says the UK is acting in bad faith and urges POTUS to use all diplomatic tools available including the suspension of trade talks to protect GFA.
lfc1971 16 Jun 22 19:07
The MDs wish list going forward is simple
“ Get rid of the protocol - and that is a business statement -
not a political statement “
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Has the MD suggested what to replace it with?
The MDs wish list going forward is simple
“ Get rid of the protocol - and that is a business statement -
not a political statement “
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Has the MD suggested what to replace it with?
Whisperingdeath • June 16, 2022 11:59 AM BST
Are you suffering from a brain tumour lfc?
Your posts have always had something the village idiot about them but recently your idiocy is making a village idiot looking like Einstein.
If every village sent their village idiot to live in just one village in the UK, i have little doubt that LFC1971 would be proud to be crowned that village's village idiot.
Are you suffering from a brain tumour lfc?
Your posts have always had something the village idiot about them but recently your idiocy is making a village idiot looking like Einstein.
If every village sent their village idiot to live in just one village in the UK, i have little doubt that LFC1971 would be proud to be crowned that village's village idiot.
Wallflower , yes the MD suggested solution to the problems he faces is
to expand the model already used in the south when importing goods from GB
They have a custom entries scheme known as the ‘trusted trader scheme ‘
In any event Britain has or intends to implement the solution with this new bill
If the EU don’t like it they will have to find their own
to expand the model already used in the south when importing goods from GB
They have a custom entries scheme known as the ‘trusted trader scheme ‘
In any event Britain has or intends to implement the solution with this new bill
If the EU don’t like it they will have to find their own
^ That is one company,it is working well for the vast majority.
40k job losses if the protocol is done away with,(in 2019 Donaldson said that amount of losses are acceptable for brexit)
Britain is politicising this because they never intended to keep their word,a mess brought on themselves and quite prepared to wreck peoples lives in NI over it.
40k job losses if the protocol is done away with,(in 2019 Donaldson said that amount of losses are acceptable for brexit)
Britain is politicising this because they never intended to keep their word,a mess brought on themselves and quite prepared to wreck peoples lives in NI over it.
I have been old enough to follow UK politics for 60 years and Ireland has been the biggest headache in almost all of those years and will be for the rest of my life I'm sure. They have tried to make the policy acceptable to both sides in Irish politics but that is impossible. The EU know full well that nothing from GB travels to France via NI and then Eire but they saw a way to make life difficult after Brexit and have succeeded. It must be costing the EU a lot of money but that never seems to bother them.
Make no mistake the nationalists and republicans will do their utmost to
try and stop these sensible changes - they are not and will not listen to
the concerns expressed by the MD someone who has spent a lifetime
creating manufacturing jobs and wealth for the people and the country
Unlike those in SinnFein IRA who never worked but whose aim was to
destroy the economy and the country , and peoples lives
They haven’t changed , anything linked to Britain they will try and weaken and destroy
try and stop these sensible changes - they are not and will not listen to
the concerns expressed by the MD someone who has spent a lifetime
creating manufacturing jobs and wealth for the people and the country
Unlike those in SinnFein IRA who never worked but whose aim was to
destroy the economy and the country , and peoples lives
They haven’t changed , anything linked to Britain they will try and weaken and destroy
lol Lfc,Boris Johnson made the agreement, the dup said it was a great agreement at the time,it still is.
lfc1972
Unlike those in SinnFein IRA who never worked but whose aim was to
destroy the economy and the country , and peoples lives
WADC
Unlike those in SinnFein IRA who never worked but whose aim was to
destroy the economy and the country , and peoples lives
WADC
Agree Irishone,no need for that
EU are doing minimal checks,2.5 pages, if that isn't taking up it is showing up the British Government not wanting it to work.
if so,
SHAME ON THEM
EU are doing minimal checks,2.5 pages, if that isn't taking up it is showing up the British Government not wanting it to work.
if so,
SHAME ON THEM
I had to skip a few pages of this tired old puke.
The whole world knows the Britts had a
Shoot to kill policy
Go to the families and tell them
Sorry we killed you all it wasn't policy it just happened out that way
Martin McGuinness was a tactical genius far too clever for Thatcher and her paid killers.
The whole world knows the Britts had a
Shoot to kill policy
Go to the families and tell them
Sorry we killed you all it wasn't policy it just happened out that way
Martin McGuinness was a tactical genius far too clever for Thatcher and her paid killers.
And where are the DUP this week.
Have they nothing to say, it's time they spoke up on the latest Tory policy, why have they not
come forward to give their opinion.
Are they afraid?
Will they remain silent and disruptive.
What is it that stalls them, have they not got what they want, or are they fearful they will
once again get fecked over.
Have they nothing to say, it's time they spoke up on the latest Tory policy, why have they not
come forward to give their opinion.
Are they afraid?
Will they remain silent and disruptive.
What is it that stalls them, have they not got what they want, or are they fearful they will
once again get fecked over.
What they have said is everything wrong.
They are shafting ALL the people of NI instead of getting behind something that is actually good for ALL.
They are shafting ALL the people of NI instead of getting behind something that is actually good for ALL.
Pecker asking legitimate questions, inviting discussion ( on a forum ) and getting the usual empty reply from the resident airhead.
The self elected forum judge of what is acceptable shows up.
This from the posters who follows people about just to abuse them
Stick to what you are good at Honcho, chasing cars and sheep.
This from the posters who follows people about just to abuse them
Stick to what you are good at Honcho, chasing cars and sheep.
^ Nothing about lfcs 12.40 hateful post.
Nothing about there will be next to no 'checks'
Nothing about anything really.
Go and stick your mug image on the Scottish thread.
Nothing about there will be next to no 'checks'
Nothing about anything really.
Go and stick your mug image on the Scottish thread.
It isn't factual as is your statement that the law breaking of the protocol did not meet with disapproval from the United states.
The law breaking f the protocol?
And where did I say that it didn't meet with disapproval from anyone in America?
And where did I say that it didn't meet with disapproval from anyone in America?
The EU lad was on RTE news there slaughtered the tories very cleverly, they are making a total clown of their electorate, people are astonished world wide how this mob are still in power.
Proposed changes to Northern Ireland protocol will not impede U.S.-UK trade dialogue, White House says
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/proposed-changes-ireland-protocol-will-not-impede-us-uk-trade-dialogue-white-2022-06-13/
Watch the clip to the end. It will not become an impediment to next weeks Uk/USA trade deal.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/proposed-changes-ireland-protocol-will-not-impede-us-uk-trade-dialogue-white-2022-06-13/
Watch the clip to the end. It will not become an impediment to next weeks Uk/USA trade deal.
Akabula 14th june 4.31
'i see America are happy enough with BJ's ideas'
'i see America are happy enough with BJ's ideas'
people are astonished world wide how this mob are still in power.
Thats just wishful thinking Malay. Nobody outside the UK gives a second thought to who is in power in the UK.
Most foreign commentators laugh at us for having kittens over partygate and most people with an interest in the protocol know that it goes against the principles of the GFA.
As regards the cost of living crisis, that is global along with transport and staffing issues.
People abroad have their own issues without being bothered by ours.
Thats just wishful thinking Malay. Nobody outside the UK gives a second thought to who is in power in the UK.
Most foreign commentators laugh at us for having kittens over partygate and most people with an interest in the protocol know that it goes against the principles of the GFA.
As regards the cost of living crisis, that is global along with transport and staffing issues.
People abroad have their own issues without being bothered by ours.
House of Congress GFA statement;
'The UK is acting in bad faith and calls on POTUS to use all diplomatic tools necessary including suspension of trade talks with UK to protect the GFA'
'The UK is acting in bad faith and calls on POTUS to use all diplomatic tools necessary including suspension of trade talks with UK to protect the GFA'
Thats the equivalent of Strarmer, Rayner and Blackford getting together to have a go at Boris.
Anyways its got nothing to do with them what we do and the only people that count are going ahead with the talks.
Anyways its got nothing to do with them what we do and the only people that count are going ahead with the talks.
former national security advisor says Americas interests are to side with U.K. over protocol
saying that the US needs a strong U.K. as opposed to an Irish republic that offers NATO
and the western alliance nothing
The former United Nations ambassador said that the protocol had been used to get more leverage but
“ it is delusional to think that striving to weaken British internal unity is productive “
saying that the US needs a strong U.K. as opposed to an Irish republic that offers NATO
and the western alliance nothing
The former United Nations ambassador said that the protocol had been used to get more leverage but
“ it is delusional to think that striving to weaken British internal unity is productive “
You seem to forget to mention that john bolton advised ronald regan, trump and every other right wing u s president.
He is 76 year's old and hasn't got a hells chance of BIDEN listening to him.
You really do like scrapping the barrel with the scum dont you.
He is 76 year's old and hasn't got a hells chance of BIDEN listening to him.
You really do like scrapping the barrel with the scum dont you.
Starmer is not tgd man who is going to surrender The Union
A County Down florist says the NI protocol
has forced him to cut ties with all his suppliers in England
At the start our regular suppliers had difficulty getting stuff across
It became so difficult that some said ‘ No we are not shipping to NI’
The DUP are quite correct to close Stormont
Get that Bill through parliament Boris
has forced him to cut ties with all his suppliers in England
At the start our regular suppliers had difficulty getting stuff across
It became so difficult that some said ‘ No we are not shipping to NI’
The DUP are quite correct to close Stormont
Get that Bill through parliament Boris
The farming and gardening magazines sometimes give "free" seed packets ,these have to be ripped off when the magazine is sold in Northern Ireland as they are of course a savage a vicious threat to the "single market".
Pettiness and bureaucracy symbolises the "silly boys club" aka EU TF we escaped.
Pettiness and bureaucracy symbolises the "silly boys club" aka EU TF we escaped.
^ You aren't getting it.
It has nothing to do with that,main headline on Irish(RTE) news yesterday was very minimal checks,ie 2 or 3 pages,this was not reported in the UK on BBC.
The Brexit fantastic deal which was sold to the UK people in order to win a general election is so bad it is trying to be sabotaged by the ERG (source Tony Connelly RTE,no off ramps, only cliff edges)
It has nothing to do with that,main headline on Irish(RTE) news yesterday was very minimal checks,ie 2 or 3 pages,this was not reported in the UK on BBC.
The Brexit fantastic deal which was sold to the UK people in order to win a general election is so bad it is trying to be sabotaged by the ERG (source Tony Connelly RTE,no off ramps, only cliff edges)
lfc1971
lfc197118 Jun 22 10:48Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 61,593 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
Time for Boris to cut the south of Ireland adrift
Ireland done that 100 years ago voluntarily.
The 6 counties voted remain, the majority of elected representatives are in favour of the protocol.
Boris and his advisers negotiated and signed the prototocol and promoted his deal as "Great" "oven ready"
Did he know what he signed ? I'd like to think so if I was English. If he didn't ? well that is a big problem for him and his party and anybody who votes in UK.
lfc197118 Jun 22 10:48Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 61,593 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
Time for Boris to cut the south of Ireland adrift
Ireland done that 100 years ago voluntarily.
The 6 counties voted remain, the majority of elected representatives are in favour of the protocol.
Boris and his advisers negotiated and signed the prototocol and promoted his deal as "Great" "oven ready"
Did he know what he signed ? I'd like to think so if I was English. If he didn't ? well that is a big problem for him and his party and anybody who votes in UK.
Nonsense it retains and has done so for the last 100 years
full rights to live and work anywhere in the U.K.
Those are rights that should be available only to British citizens
It’s not independent and never was . Look at it more akin to a devolved
government , and not a friendly one at that
full rights to live and work anywhere in the U.K.
Those are rights that should be available only to British citizens
It’s not independent and never was . Look at it more akin to a devolved
government , and not a friendly one at that
Presbyterian Church in NI says
“Protocol has unbalanced the delicate settlement of the Good Friday Agreement “
@ the effects of the protocol were either not envisioned or were underplayed by those
on both sides who signed it
“Protocol has unbalanced the delicate settlement of the Good Friday Agreement “
@ the effects of the protocol were either not envisioned or were underplayed by those
on both sides who signed it
“ So the protocol should be dealt with . Our view is that it is best done by negotiation
We also feel that Europe has not moved enough “ Europe needs to review the mandate given
to its negotiators so that “ some of the real issues can be dealt with in talks
We also feel that Europe has not moved enough “ Europe needs to review the mandate given
to its negotiators so that “ some of the real issues can be dealt with in talks
SinnFein/IRA : Sinn Fein election agent John Joseph O’Hagan of the New lodge Belfast
was convicted in 2003 of collecting intelligence on top Conservative party figures
He was convicted on two counts if procession of articles for use in a terrorist act
and five counts of possessing documents useful to persons planning an act of terrorism
O’Grady had previously been jailed for 16 years for processing explosives
In addition Sinn Féin’s other successful north Belfast candidate Gerry Kelly also had a former IRA
as his election agent - Shauneen Baker - caught trying to take a bomb to Belfast International Airport
Sinn Féin’s mps Chuilin was caught planting a bobby trap bomb in Crumlin village
While Kelly was jailed for the Old Bailey bombing
was convicted in 2003 of collecting intelligence on top Conservative party figures
He was convicted on two counts if procession of articles for use in a terrorist act
and five counts of possessing documents useful to persons planning an act of terrorism
O’Grady had previously been jailed for 16 years for processing explosives
In addition Sinn Féin’s other successful north Belfast candidate Gerry Kelly also had a former IRA
as his election agent - Shauneen Baker - caught trying to take a bomb to Belfast International Airport
Sinn Féin’s mps Chuilin was caught planting a bobby trap bomb in Crumlin village
While Kelly was jailed for the Old Bailey bombing
Manufacturing NI's Stephen Kelly is getting Loyalist death threats for simply telling the truth re Northern Irelands economy.
Not 1971,2003,1996 but TODAY.
Not 1971,2003,1996 but TODAY.
A UUP councillor receives a republican death threat in Christmas card
Inside the card was scrawled ‘IRA’ and condolences to yer ma’
I’ve received more abuse since being elected in 2019 than in my whole life “
Mr Lewis , 31, was elected as councillor says he has received regular abuse since joining
Newry and Mourne ( Sinn Fein /nationalist ) council
He says that while he occasionally questioned whether he wants to continue
he will not be deterred
Inside the card was scrawled ‘IRA’ and condolences to yer ma’
I’ve received more abuse since being elected in 2019 than in my whole life “
Mr Lewis , 31, was elected as councillor says he has received regular abuse since joining
Newry and Mourne ( Sinn Fein /nationalist ) council
He says that while he occasionally questioned whether he wants to continue
he will not be deterred
Is it not ? Why is there a border in the Irish Sea and not where it should on the south of Ireland border ?
That’s because of threats of violence from republicans
No preaching to unionists until the nationalists : republicans stop threatening violence
It’s hypocritical
That’s because of threats of violence from republicans
No preaching to unionists until the nationalists : republicans stop threatening violence
It’s hypocritical
Your one sided bigoted views have nothing to do with the subject you made a thread about.
By the way Kelly is not telling the truth about the NI economy regardless of anything else
Your one sided bigoted views doesn’t seem to recognise that the border
should be in the south of Ireland and is not because of republican threats of violence
Now take that on board before you have the gall to criticise anyone
should be in the south of Ireland and is not because of republican threats of violence
Now take that on board before you have the gall to criticise anyone
You trawl through history and ignore your loyalist paramilitaries while trying to put up a one sided view.
Why haven't you mentioned Wright-bus and Almac,2 companies in dup heartland that have nothing but praise for the protocol.
There doesn't have to be any border,the land border is done away it and that was made by Ireland,UK and US,it works and has for 20 years.The protocol is a solution to that,it exists BECAUSE of brexit,negotiated by Frost and Johnson who described it as 'a great deal' for the people of the UK.
You can carry on your pure fa nny from '71'2003,1996, because it is all you have,ie fook all.
Why haven't you mentioned Wright-bus and Almac,2 companies in dup heartland that have nothing but praise for the protocol.
There doesn't have to be any border,the land border is done away it and that was made by Ireland,UK and US,it works and has for 20 years.The protocol is a solution to that,it exists BECAUSE of brexit,negotiated by Frost and Johnson who described it as 'a great deal' for the people of the UK.
You can carry on your pure fa nny from '71'2003,1996, because it is all you have,ie fook all.
Just a minute lapsy - where is the border is it in the Irish Sea and eu checks in NI ports ( causing disruption and costing money )
Or is it where it should be in the south of Ireland
That’s not history so stop talking tripe that’s happening now
Or is it where it should be in the south of Ireland
That’s not history so stop talking tripe that’s happening now
Of course if you think there is no threat from republicans and nationalists
and you are not telling lies then of course the border can locate to its rightful place
Happy with that , or are you talking nonsense again ?
and you are not telling lies then of course the border can locate to its rightful place
Happy with that , or are you talking nonsense again ?
Ah , I see you would not be happy
That’s because of your bigoted one sided viewpoint ..
and dishonest with it
Not a good combination
That’s because of your bigoted one sided viewpoint ..
and dishonest with it
Not a good combination
I have one view on this.
The people of Northern Ireland are doing very well with this agreement and fearful that it is being sabotaged simply because of the huge mistake of brexit itself.
The people of Northern Ireland are doing very well with this agreement and fearful that it is being sabotaged simply because of the huge mistake of brexit itself.
The provisional IRA do not exist, there are some fools, very few, who have no political mandate from Sinn Fein, in Derry and Belfast, calling themselves the IRA. The PIRA are well gone.
Unfortunately the DUP and other Unionists parties align themselves to drug dealing, prostitutes gangs such as UVF, who didn't go away, so they are definitely the biggest threat to Good Friday agreement.
I will doubt the British government will bow to these criminals, hopefully they should all be arrested ASAP, who knows ?
The PIRA are well gone.Unfortunately the DUP and other Unionists parties align themselves to drug dealing, prostitutes gangs such as UVF, who didn't go away, so they are definitely the biggest threat to Good Friday agreement.
I will doubt the British government will bow to these criminals, hopefully they should all be arrested ASAP, who knows ?
Ah , the provisional IRA do still exist and oversee Sinn Fein IRA
That’s the view of the chief of police in the south , the chief of police in NI
and British intelligence (MI5 )
Now if Sinn Fein /IRA are not the biggest threat to peace we will stop all checks between GB and NI
And the EU and the south of Ireland can do checks in the south
That’s fine , until that happens you’re being dishonest and bigoted , sorry
That’s the view of the chief of police in the south , the chief of police in NI
and British intelligence (MI5 )
Now if Sinn Fein /IRA are not the biggest threat to peace we will stop all checks between GB and NI
And the EU and the south of Ireland can do checks in the south
That’s fine , until that happens you’re being dishonest and bigoted , sorry
I agree Malay,this sea border is really hurting their drug importation which is good.
I can assure you I am not a bigot, racist, dishonest or intolerant of anybody's beliefs or private lifes, I stated a fact the Provisionals do not exist in any shape of form which is true. I believe everybody should live together without hatred.
I've no idea if Scottish independence or Irish reunification will be a good thing, I have my doubts, but I'm sure there supporters will have that too, they would be fools not to, break up is never easy.
Please stick to topic you created which is, The protocol negotiated by the UK government and declared it "great deal".
I've no idea if Scottish independence or Irish reunification will be a good thing, I have my doubts, but I'm sure there supporters will have that too, they would be fools not to, break up is never easy.
Please stick to topic you created which is, The protocol negotiated by the UK government and declared it "great deal".
I’m not getting into all this - Irish nationalists never like any criticism
maybe they have sensitive ears ?
Will update any further developments ongoing
maybe they have sensitive ears ?
Will update any further developments ongoing
good luck and take a few months off and focus on tennis at eastbourne and wimbledon. English lad obsessed with Scotland and Ireland seems bizarre, Covid is over, hope there is professional help available in NHS, even if it's a johnny foreigner that helps.
The NIP is a trade agreement like thousands of others ,except it had to quite rightly honour the GFA.
It was short and like most trade agreements it contained ,safety clauses and provisos ,to allow it to evolve ,be revisited ,modified and changed ,it even had detailed arbitration procedures written into it ,to enable renegotiation.
It has been cruelly hijacked ,to become Catholic v Protestant hysterical emotional outdated bolloxs ,London v Dublin and Macron v BJ ,add in the democrat senile fool ,Pelosi etc and it is a fcup.
It could still be negotiated fairly and reasonably by sane rational rep's ,as it is mutually beneficial to UK + Eire.
The EU taking the UK to court is not the way unless they like confrontation and unrest or seek petty revenge.
It was short and like most trade agreements it contained ,safety clauses and provisos ,to allow it to evolve ,be revisited ,modified and changed ,it even had detailed arbitration procedures written into it ,to enable renegotiation.
It has been cruelly hijacked ,to become Catholic v Protestant hysterical emotional outdated bolloxs ,London v Dublin and Macron v BJ ,add in the democrat senile fool ,Pelosi etc and it is a fcup.
It could still be negotiated fairly and reasonably by sane rational rep's ,as it is mutually beneficial to UK + Eire.
The EU taking the UK to court is not the way unless they like confrontation and unrest or seek petty revenge.
Time for Boris to cut the south of Ireland adrift
Rose from the ashes like
The legend of the Phoenix
Oh Mary Lou biggest party in 32_
Oven ready
Rose from the ashes like
The legend of the Phoenix
Oh Mary Lou biggest party in 32_
Oven ready
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The NIP is a trade agreement like thousands of others ,except it had to quite rightly honour the GFA.
It was short and like most trade agreements it contained ,safety clauses and provisos ,to allow it to evolve ,be revisited ,modified and changed ,it even had detailed arbitration procedures written into it ,to enable renegotiation.
It has been cruelly hijacked ,to become Catholic v Protestant hysterical emotional outdated bolloxs ,London v Dublin and Macron v BJ ,add in the democrat senile fool ,Pelosi etc and it is a fcup.
It could still be negotiated fairly and reasonably by sane rational rep's ,as it is mutually beneficial to UK + Eire.
The EU taking the UK to court is not the way unless they like confrontation and unrest or seek petty revenge.
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send for the nurse, the biggest load of nonsense ever posted here and there has been a lot, hopefully it's a fake account from the usual suspect.
The NIP is a trade agreement like thousands of others ,except it had to quite rightly honour the GFA.
It was short and like most trade agreements it contained ,safety clauses and provisos ,to allow it to evolve ,be revisited ,modified and changed ,it even had detailed arbitration procedures written into it ,to enable renegotiation.
It has been cruelly hijacked ,to become Catholic v Protestant hysterical emotional outdated bolloxs ,London v Dublin and Macron v BJ ,add in the democrat senile fool ,Pelosi etc and it is a fcup.
It could still be negotiated fairly and reasonably by sane rational rep's ,as it is mutually beneficial to UK + Eire.
The EU taking the UK to court is not the way unless they like confrontation and unrest or seek petty revenge.
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send for the nurse, the biggest load of nonsense ever posted here and there has been a lot, hopefully it's a fake account from the usual suspect.
I'm quite sure Boris stated it was a great day and a great deal for Britain when they signed it.
Did he not have a clue then?
Did he not have a clue then?
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