The End of Scottish Independence ?

Too many global fingers in the Scots pie,little Krankie seems to say 'New World Order' alot but nobody picks up on it.

Unionist parties dominated the first preference vote.
Wee Nicki quick to jump in after the results to say that the Council elections shouldn't be about independence.

55% for the Unionists and 45% for the Nationalist.
Nothing has changed from 2014. Sturgeon hasn't taken the cause forward by even a fraction of a percent.
The call for independence is in a rut and Sturgeon can't do anything about it.

She will Need the "Wiggy C0ck Mob" to Multiply Ten thousand fold ..

We may want it but we don;t need independence.
Labour and Tories who hate each other, and otherwise couldn;t agree about anything, combining again as "Unionists".  lmao.

We may want it but we don;t need independence.

So you're not really bothered that there is no chance of independence.

Fewer than a third of Scots back sturgeons claim for a referendum next year
Majority wish to stay in the U.K.

Time to bring to an end this meddlesome and anti British institution in holyrood Boris

Why won't the party king give the Scots a vote.

May 8, 2022 -- 3:02PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

Why won't the party king give the Scots a vote.

This is the totally undemocratic problem. The Scottish people have given their government a mandate to seek an independence referendum by voting for a majority of independence supporting parties at Holyrood. How can it be democratic or fair in any form for the PM to refuse to grant that request?

Democracy is seen in many forms

Yup..and so is fascism.

Holyrood nowt but a joke but hard to laugh given the Billions it has cost in running and a wasteful snp.

Long time to go yet,Boris Johnson has cast the die,he promised the unionists there would never be an Irish Sea border,well there is an he did that.

Never trust a Tory.

What has that got to do with Scottish independence lapsy?
Actually no need to respond as we all know the answer is nothing.

Quite a bit and given it is yourself i'll explain, Scotland and Northern Ireland both have devolved govts,he lied to the NI one and he'd lie to you(Scotland) just as quick.
The NI unionists a victim of the Torys false promises,he shat on them so the Torys could win an election.

Never trust a Tory.

So it doesn't have anything to do with Scottish independence.
Despite everything thats happened the snp are stuck on 45%.
Now has changed since 2014. Wee Nicki is a failure.

You are a bit naive if you think a SF majority in NI and in the EU won't have an influence on Scotland.

It won't have an influence on Scottish independence.
Not hard to understand why the %age hasn't moved in 8 years.

The tories for all their faults have shown themselves to be the only party that can be trusted

You can’t trust labour or the liberals or the snp or of course Sinn Fein and the Irish nationals

Cut all extra financial help to Scotland Boris
If they insist on voting snp

At Westminster, SNP MPs will also press the UK government to match the Scottish Government’s commitment to legislation within this parliament. In addition to reforming gender recognition law, SNP MPs will push the UK government to allow non-binary people to record their gender as “X” on passports and all other UK-wide records and identity documents. Fantastic stuff from Ferguson & Co

At Westminster, SNP MPs will also press the UK government to match the Scottish Government’s commitment to legislation within this parliament. In addition to reforming gender recognition law, SNP MPs will push the UK government to allow non-binary people to record their gender as “X” on passports and all other UK-wide records and identity documents. Fantastic stuff from Ferguson & Co

Mean while .. Nowhere in Europe do more people die from drug abuse than in Scotland. This sad record is the result of social problems, political failure – and a deadly mix of heroin, cocaine and street Valium.

But lets Make sure the X on documents is sorted , that's the main thing .

No that;s not what I said but if it keeps the resident fckwit happy,.........

surely only a matter of time before her own hangers on realise she's taking them on the road to nowhere and turf her out

On the contrary, the SNPS record at both Holyrood and Westminster at the ballot box is exceptional.

The decision on another referendum is (wrongly) completely out of the hands of the elected Government at Holyrood. It's entirely the decision of Boris.

Out of interest, any constitutional experts tell me what's to stop Sturgeon calling a referendum and saying it's non-binding. Run it as normal but knowing it won't lead directly to independence but hoping that a big enough vote would force Johnson's hand.

It would be illegal Porkie.
Sturgeon hasn't the powers to hold a referendum and calling it non-binding would not circumvent the legislation.

As the following link shows, that with only 29% of Scots voters in favour of a referendum, Sturgeon hasn't a mandate for one.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-independence-poll-2023-...

LoyalHoncho
We may want it but we don;t need independence.

Seems a strange thing to say.
Looks like desperation to me on learning that the majority in Scotland, according to latest polls, want to remain in the Union.
TBH Honcho it would be refreshing to get a reply without the normal abuse. TIA m8.

BTW Porkie I'm no constitutional expert but an MSP explained the position in detail on twitter quite recently.

ok, fair enough

Desperation? 
There's only two desperados on here handholder, and you're one of them.

We don't need Independence

That'll be the new battle cry of the Scottish Nasty Party supporters.

On a betting site, anyone who posts forty five thousand odd posts over fourteen years on the same obsessive subject that has nothing at all to do with betting, clearly has mental health issues.

Out of interest, any constitutional experts tell me what's to stop Sturgeon calling a referendum and saying it's non-binding. Run it as normal but knowing it won't lead directly to independence but hoping that a big enough vote would force Johnson's hand.

That's an interesting thought pp. Just think it might get the same result as last time and any other time for a while. And if it did, would it change owt? No. SNP, quite rightly as is their concept will just keep on demanding a referendum til they succeed or fall off the chart.