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Rivers of blood tomorrow.
Remember GDP has no correlation with stock prices(historically).
Don't exit the market just DCA
Do enter the market as low Caps will be massively undervalued.
Everything will be shorted like mad bar a few select stocks, use it to your advantage as it always turns.
Remember GDP has no correlation with stock prices(historically).
Don't exit the market just DCA
Do enter the market as low Caps will be massively undervalued.
Everything will be shorted like mad bar a few select stocks, use it to your advantage as it always turns.
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The 16 analysts offering 12-month price forecasts for Tilray Brands Inc have a median target of 7.13, with a high estimate of 23.00 and a low estimate of 2.60. The median estimate represents a +93.35% increase from the last price of 3.69.
SLP anyone? The company is cash laden and buying back stocks from 135p downward; PGM prices have recovered, and forecast is upward over the next 12 months.
No schit 
all these supposed experts are repeatedly beaten with a dose of common sense and ignoring the preferred narrative.
all these supposed experts are repeatedly beaten with a dose of common sense and ignoring the preferred narrative.
is this the big one cider iyo ?
i'm watching yen closely.. this keeps on and people will finally catch on to monster currency debasement and buy 'all the things'
i'm watching yen closely.. this keeps on and people will finally catch on to monster currency debasement and buy 'all the things'
When rising rates become real, and property tops out, would be most likely is my shout.
gold flying against a strong buck
very interesting
s n p nearing crucial support area
very interesting
s n p nearing crucial support area
bitcoin thru big support now
wowo heating up everywhere
wowo heating up everywhere
There was a truth talker on bloomberg just now, Ron Lagnado. Not a name I'm familiar with, but he's on the ball. Of course, quite amusing as obvioulsy it's not the narrative Bloomberg wants and the hosts were getting pretty uncomfortable
Not even in recession yet and future stagflation to come, we not close to the bottom.
I’ve been out of the markets since November
FTSE still way too high, productivity isn’t falling
But just look at the crypto false prophesy folding in half then half again….
Hope all those YouTube millionaires aren’t balls deep
I’ve been out of the markets since November
FTSE still way too high, productivity isn’t falling
But just look at the crypto false prophesy folding in half then half again….
Hope all those YouTube millionaires aren’t balls deep
Pound tanking $1.22...
Interest rates forecast to rise again, not
boosting it, due to dire growth figures.
Interest rates forecast to rise again, not
boosting it, due to dire growth figures.
You can buy an oil etc, so as good as. I told everyone to get into commodities.
I'm sure 'Stuff' is being impacted by the cost of fuel.
Crypto Lender Celsius Stops Withdrawals, Fuels Market Slump
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-13/crypto-lender-celsius-freezes-withdrawals-fueling-market-rout
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This looks heavy stuff
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-13/crypto-lender-celsius-freezes-withdrawals-fueling-market-rout
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This looks heavy stuff
Greggs have raised their prices again to £1.10 for a sausage roll
Crypto markets reel as trading platforms suspend customer withdrawals
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/13/crypto-markets-reel-trading-suspend-customer-withdrawals-00039161
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Crypto markets plummeted on Monday morning on news of troubles at another popular decentralized finance platform, dropping below $1 trillion in market capitalization for the first time since early 2021.
Celsius Network, a crypto lending business whose promise of eye-popping yields for retail consumers attracted a barrage of scrutiny from regulators, announced late Sunday night that it was halting withdrawals and crypto-for-crypto trading services for more than 2 million customers “due to extreme market conditions.”
With Celsius’s reported $11.8 billion of assets under pressure, the disruption accelerated a selloff in high-risk digital markets that were already reeling amid rising interest rates and a possible recession. Bitcoin, the most widely traded digital asset, has lost more than 17 percent of its value over the last 24 hours and is now trading below $23,000 — roughly a third of where it was valued in late fall.
With prices crashing, Binance — the world’s largest crypto marketplace — announced on Monday it was freezing Bitcoin withdrawals for technical reasons. Those services were resumed about three hours later.
Celsius’ problems are landing only a month after another popular DeFi protocol, TerraForm Labs, sustained tens of billions of dollars in losses following the collapse of its algorithmic stablecoin TerraUSD. Like Celsius, Terraform had attracted interest in its platform by offering token holders high-yield returns in exchange for staking their crypto in an online lending platform.
State and federal market regulators have targeted those business strategies as a potential violation of securities law. BlockFi, a New Jersey-based platform, reached a $100 million settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission and 32 state agencies after it was accused of selling unlicensed investment products for about three years.
Celsius was hit with cease-and-desist orders by at least four state agencies over its lending platform last year and was reportedly being investigated by the SEC as well. In April, the company announced it would limit U.S. access to yield-generating lending products to accredited investors.
It’s unclear when Celsius will allow customers to withdraw their assets or resume trading. The company did not respond to a request for comment.
Over the weekend, Celsius CEO and Celsius Network CEO Alex Mashinsky had pushed back on an online critic who had tweeted that a “large number of retail folks look like they are soon to be rekt [sic].”
“Do you know even one person who has a problem withdrawing from Celsius?” Mashinsky tweeted.
The company announced it was halting withdrawals the following day.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/13/crypto-markets-reel-trading-suspend-customer-withdrawals-00039161
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Crypto markets plummeted on Monday morning on news of troubles at another popular decentralized finance platform, dropping below $1 trillion in market capitalization for the first time since early 2021.
Celsius Network, a crypto lending business whose promise of eye-popping yields for retail consumers attracted a barrage of scrutiny from regulators, announced late Sunday night that it was halting withdrawals and crypto-for-crypto trading services for more than 2 million customers “due to extreme market conditions.”
With Celsius’s reported $11.8 billion of assets under pressure, the disruption accelerated a selloff in high-risk digital markets that were already reeling amid rising interest rates and a possible recession. Bitcoin, the most widely traded digital asset, has lost more than 17 percent of its value over the last 24 hours and is now trading below $23,000 — roughly a third of where it was valued in late fall.
With prices crashing, Binance — the world’s largest crypto marketplace — announced on Monday it was freezing Bitcoin withdrawals for technical reasons. Those services were resumed about three hours later.
Celsius’ problems are landing only a month after another popular DeFi protocol, TerraForm Labs, sustained tens of billions of dollars in losses following the collapse of its algorithmic stablecoin TerraUSD. Like Celsius, Terraform had attracted interest in its platform by offering token holders high-yield returns in exchange for staking their crypto in an online lending platform.
State and federal market regulators have targeted those business strategies as a potential violation of securities law. BlockFi, a New Jersey-based platform, reached a $100 million settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission and 32 state agencies after it was accused of selling unlicensed investment products for about three years.
Celsius was hit with cease-and-desist orders by at least four state agencies over its lending platform last year and was reportedly being investigated by the SEC as well. In April, the company announced it would limit U.S. access to yield-generating lending products to accredited investors.
It’s unclear when Celsius will allow customers to withdraw their assets or resume trading. The company did not respond to a request for comment.
Over the weekend, Celsius CEO and Celsius Network CEO Alex Mashinsky had pushed back on an online critic who had tweeted that a “large number of retail folks look like they are soon to be rekt [sic].”
“Do you know even one person who has a problem withdrawing from Celsius?” Mashinsky tweeted.
The company announced it was halting withdrawals the following day.
Carnival trading lower the Covid crash. politicspunter they will be grateful for your business
Daq close 10809, google has the wrong number for some reason.
Jun 13, 2022 -- 9:07PM, A_T wrote:
Carnival trading lower the Covid crash. politicspunter they will be grateful for your business
Are they really? Hope they don't go out of business before the end of October when our next cruise is booked for 
hundreds of millions of euro wiped from stock market valuations
A sharp slowdown in consumer spending & the looming recession in Britain, usa & euroland
surging inflation over 20%
A sharp slowdown in consumer spending & the looming recession in Britain, usa & euroland
surging inflation over 20%
I've not had so many crypto adverts these past
couple of months. The rampers must be out with their profit.
couple of months. The rampers must be out with their profit.
The ecb on form today:
Today the Governing Council met to exchange views on the current market situation. Since the gradual process of policy normalisation was initiated in December 2021, the Governing Council has pledged to act against resurgent fragmentation risks. The pandemic has left lasting vulnerabilities in the euro area economy which are indeed contributing to the uneven transmission of the normalisation of our monetary policy across jurisdictions.
Today the Governing Council met to exchange views on the current market situation. Since the gradual process of policy normalisation was initiated in December 2021, the Governing Council has pledged to act against resurgent fragmentation risks. The pandemic has left lasting vulnerabilities in the euro area economy which are indeed contributing to the uneven transmission of the normalisation of our monetary policy across jurisdictions.
UK interest rates up to 1.25
Boe voted 6-3 for 0.25% rise with
the 3 voting for 0.5%
Ftse down 2.6% as general world wide share sell
off continues
Pound up 1/2c v dollar at $1.2229
Boe voted 6-3 for 0.25% rise with
the 3 voting for 0.5%
Ftse down 2.6% as general world wide share sell
off continues
Pound up 1/2c v dollar at $1.2229
Bitcoin price stable today compared to the recent daily freefall.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average $DJIA falls over 700 points, falling below 30,000 hitting session lows, as stock losses accelerate amid renewed recession concerns.
Average interest rate for 2-year fixed term mortgage deal has risen from 2.34% at the beginning of December to 3.25% - Moneyfacts
Its the elephent in the room but people want to know about where they can rent a temp air con because its hot 
Prices going up and the flock just ignore the obvious or are burying their head in the sand
Prices going up and the flock just ignore the obvious or are burying their head in the sand
Oh and some are moaning about car park charges... you couldnt make it up
A forum on inflation and rising rates and theres 6 pages today of none stop parking charges... pathetic
A forum on inflation and rising rates and theres 6 pages today of none stop parking charges... pathetic
Its like people are being willfully ignorent eh
Johnson v. Musk, Case No. 22-cv-05037, SDNY (Manhattan).
Keith Johnson sued Musk and his companies, claiming they engaged in illegal racketeering to raise the price of $DOGE.
$258 billion claimed, lol,
Keith Johnson sued Musk and his companies, claiming they engaged in illegal racketeering to raise the price of $DOGE.
$258 billion claimed, lol,
He seeks $86 billion in damages, plus $172 billion in triple damages, as well as an injunction barring Musk and the companies from marketing $DOGE and declaring that the $DOGE trade is illegal under US and New York law.
would not surprise me at all to see the Nasdaq drop to pre-covid levels
hopefully so, but people waiting for the absolute bottom will probably be waiting a long time. these are now quite reasonable levels to start getting involved. Even ARKK for the long play
Mortgage rates have increased by twice as much as the @bankofengland rise in base rate - The Times
Crypto tanking on a Saturday, whatever next.
Alastair Meeks
@AlastairMeeks
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3m
Has all hope gone from Bitcoin yet? Probably not.
Still, keep Bitcoin owners away from the Leonard Cohen records tonight.
@AlastairMeeks
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3m
Has all hope gone from Bitcoin yet? Probably not.
Still, keep Bitcoin owners away from the Leonard Cohen records tonight.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/18/bitcoin-price-drops-below-18600-as-sell-off-accelerates.html
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Bitcoin drops below $18,300 as sell-off accelerates — here’s what happened
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Bitcoin drops below $18,300 as sell-off accelerates — here’s what happened
Keeps falling, I wonder how leveraged it is.
Could have some big negative ripples.
Could have some big negative ripples.
Statistically recession still around a year away, just under I think
FTSE still mighty high considering
I’m not buying owt till I see some serious shredding go on
FTSE still mighty high considering
I’m not buying owt till I see some serious shredding go on
cape on the 250 is very very low, and a good long bet I believe. obviously loads of domestic shenanigans going on, but I would not put anyone off long pound cost averaging, with yields improving due to depreciating valuations.
markets are very forward looking, so a recession is priced in. still scope for falling more, which is good.
markets are very forward looking, so a recession is priced in. still scope for falling more, which is good.
Tech stocks are a long way into the future but Im not convinced the others are.
You only need to look at the speculation regarding the severity of FED rate rises. It didnt take a genious to realise they were going to raise them yet it always comes down to the same week where the damage happens.
Or for that matter read what brokers make of the markets, they change their opinions more regular than their pants, from day to day they give their advice on what just happened, true charalatans.
You only need to look at the speculation regarding the severity of FED rate rises. It didnt take a genious to realise they were going to raise them yet it always comes down to the same week where the damage happens.
Or for that matter read what brokers make of the markets, they change their opinions more regular than their pants, from day to day they give their advice on what just happened, true charalatans.
oh yes I'm not interested in broker ratings, load of nonsense.
for me the market makers didn't expect the fed to handbrake turn so quickly, and go cold turkey, so it was a bit of a screech. the markets have been otherwise gearing up for a global recession since the turn of the year. there's short term trading and long term investing, buying the market is now good long term investing imv.
you could easily see them turning the printers back on.
for me the market makers didn't expect the fed to handbrake turn so quickly, and go cold turkey, so it was a bit of a screech. the markets have been otherwise gearing up for a global recession since the turn of the year. there's short term trading and long term investing, buying the market is now good long term investing imv.
you could easily see them turning the printers back on.
If next month's figures are down its a recession.
There will be more haircuts im pretty sure.
There will be no printing this year.
There will be more haircuts im pretty sure.
There will be no printing this year.
Not much has changed though, since I called this correction. Commodities is a risky place to be if you're not watching it hourly, so I'm quite happy to switch back to buying the broader market. I'm sticking with index linked government bonds as a portion of my holding, and pca.
EU reaches agreement on crypto rules
harmonised market, legal certainty for crypto-asset issuers, guarantee a level playing field for service providers,ensure high standards for consumer protection
harmonised market, legal certainty for crypto-asset issuers, guarantee a level playing field for service providers,ensure high standards for consumer protection
Voyager Update July 1, 2022
Today, Voyager made the difficult but necessary decision to temporarily suspend trading, deposits, withdrawals, and loyalty rewards, effective at 2:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time on July 1.
Another crypto collapse.
Today, Voyager made the difficult but necessary decision to temporarily suspend trading, deposits, withdrawals, and loyalty rewards, effective at 2:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time on July 1.
Another crypto collapse.
why does crypto move up & down drasticly if its a currency
Are We Already In A Recession? Yes
Fed indicator negative territory, recession,two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth.
40bn of European corporate bonds distressed
13trillion swallowed
Fed indicator negative territory, recession,two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth.
40bn of European corporate bonds distressed
13trillion swallowed
19 year fresh U$D highs
could have a lot further to go still
stocks, crypto, metals and even oil taking a kicking today, could get nasty real quick
could have a lot further to go still
stocks, crypto, metals and even oil taking a kicking today, could get nasty real quick
We've not seen cascading waterfalls yet imo which means retail holding onto their testicular region and hoping for the best
where else are they going to put their money, when dividends still beat even the highest bank rates and inflation busting loose?
That seems to be the 'quandary of the moment' dusty
I'm out of market bar a couple of small silver miners which I may well sell today
charts look disgusting to me atm.. we had what was possibly a 'bear market rally' and constant offers on rallies ever since across a lot of assets
SP500 just fell out of ascending channel which kept it in check since last low
doesn't look well to me at all
I'm out of market bar a couple of small silver miners which I may well sell today
charts look disgusting to me atm.. we had what was possibly a 'bear market rally' and constant offers on rallies ever since across a lot of assets
SP500 just fell out of ascending channel which kept it in check since last low
doesn't look well to me at all
USD seems to be the place right now
Metals getting hammered, finally they give
GBP taking it up the jacksie too...On it's way to parity ?
all towards USD today
All the other currencies to the bin immediately with USD being the least dirty shirt in the laundry basket ... until ...
Metals getting hammered, finally they give
GBP taking it up the jacksie too...On it's way to parity ?
all towards USD today
All the other currencies to the bin immediately with USD being the least dirty shirt in the laundry basket ... until ...
Pol pot absolutely clueless about bitcoin
And 99.99% still clueless about crypto
All the foundations and infrastructure is been built for the future of the world in crypto
It's a lot of heavy lifting and trial and error.
And 99.99% still clueless about crypto
All the foundations and infrastructure is been built for the future of the world in crypto
It's a lot of heavy lifting and trial and error.
The USD is still the reserve currency, but even that is propped up by the biggest Ponzi scheme is history
Im also out
Other than Ultra that I can cash in now anyday since it seems it has the green light from monopolies for a takeover
Other than Ultra that I can cash in now anyday since it seems it has the green light from monopolies for a takeover
Yep... USD backed by nothing more than the military really Timber
All fiat will turn to dust eventually , always has ..
It's already happening... Turkey/Sri Lanka... look at Japan , still merrily printing and sterling looks awful, all serving to prop the $ further( for the time being)
a race to the bottom...
The things we need to survive... that's what to buy/store/hold ahead of holding currency
and autonomy over authority is where people need to be looking (ie Bitcoin/physical gold ..these will fall further on an aggressive liquidiation event) but even then with what I think is coming there may be no easy way out..
Once the system switches to digital tokens/identification/restriction/rules it will be almost next to impossible to trade any other way but through 'their' system
All fiat will turn to dust eventually , always has ..
It's already happening... Turkey/Sri Lanka... look at Japan , still merrily printing and sterling looks awful, all serving to prop the $ further( for the time being)
a race to the bottom...
The things we need to survive... that's what to buy/store/hold ahead of holding currency
and autonomy over authority is where people need to be looking (ie Bitcoin/physical gold ..these will fall further on an aggressive liquidiation event) but even then with what I think is coming there may be no easy way out..
Once the system switches to digital tokens/identification/restriction/rules it will be almost next to impossible to trade any other way but through 'their' system
Dusty, the quandary.., where do you go even for the short/medium term ?
Plenty of retail with sore pieces after trying to find protection from inflation last 2 years but then again one should not try to fight the FED in a tightening cycle
been happening for beards
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
–Thomas Jefferson
question is how far will they go this time ?
Plenty of retail with sore pieces after trying to find protection from inflation last 2 years but then again one should not try to fight the FED in a tightening cycle
been happening for beards
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
–Thomas Jefferson
question is how far will they go this time ?
The Economist have built a model on revolution and riots and found it results in a GDP frop of 1.5% around a year later
There model shows how Afric and Asia really in the 5hit due to grain dependencies, and most of the sub continent are expected to riot.
Turkey a bit different, they got a nutjob who thinks inflation is tackled by LOWERING interest rates...the government is on the hook for the promises to subsidise some investment they created to encourage the population to invest into when inflation went out of control....so a new war is predicted
There model shows how Afric and Asia really in the 5hit due to grain dependencies, and most of the sub continent are expected to riot.
Turkey a bit different, they got a nutjob who thinks inflation is tackled by LOWERING interest rates...the government is on the hook for the promises to subsidise some investment they created to encourage the population to invest into when inflation went out of control....so a new war is predicted
Lol yeah Turkey does have a 'further' disadvantage in Erdogan
It felt like the right time to come out of commodities. Like I said the other day, it can turn easily and quickly.
I favour quality, profit making assets now and plough on through, pound cost averaging. Short and medium duration gvnt bonds.
I favour quality, profit making assets now and plough on through, pound cost averaging. Short and medium duration gvnt bonds.
It doesn't matter where you look though, more pain looks a given .. everywhere
And most if not all is being stoked and engineered
this is good thing though, just got to look beyond the noise. a lovely extended bear market is lovely. when others are fearful and all that. i'm quite happy consistently putting my chips in now.
if there is a catastrophic world event, we're all fekked anyway
if there is a catastrophic world event, we're all fekked anyway
it won't get really jiggy until access to cash properly dries up, and real estate turns
I'm with you on that Cider but I think we some way off a bottom tbh
this edgy pip lower activity generally makes retail soporific and slow to act..
1 pip up, 2 pips down etc more selling to come imo
tbf tho I'm leaning toward the whole show being fekked and therefore so are we anyway
bp , shell off 9-10% today !!
know plenty who have sought solace in energy as 'the hedge' recently
this edgy pip lower activity generally makes retail soporific and slow to act..
1 pip up, 2 pips down etc more selling to come imo
tbf tho I'm leaning toward the whole show being fekked and therefore so are we anyway
bp , shell off 9-10% today !!
know plenty who have sought solace in energy as 'the hedge' recently
also been watching metals closely recently
Gold done a great job of 'staying still' for gbp buyers since turn of the year while everything else melted away due largely in part to $ strength
They've breached good levels today downside and in the past this some times an indicator of a broad sell off all over.
Gold done a great job of 'staying still' for gbp buyers since turn of the year while everything else melted away due largely in part to $ strength
They've breached good levels today downside and in the past this some times an indicator of a broad sell off all over.
nobody can call the bottom, but we can prepare for it. bp and shell is a direct function of the oil spot price of course.
if the commodity correction is big enough, it will be tempting to jump back in again.
for novice investors, with the uk tilt i like the LifeStrategy 100% Equity Fund (acc). Just pound cost average for the next 10 years, job done.
if the commodity correction is big enough, it will be tempting to jump back in again.
for novice investors, with the uk tilt i like the LifeStrategy 100% Equity Fund (acc). Just pound cost average for the next 10 years, job done.
i do actually own a gold etc but it's currency hedged. that's just a buy and hold for me, to add diversity
I mentioned BP and Shell to fall on this thread a couple of months ago, not to everyone's liking I seem to remember.
I can't remember the date or
price and I didn't track them, so immaterial really.
I think what goes up comes down more in these volatile conditions, more haircuts.
However you gotta start somewhere, so if long and averaging you may well be fine, because there is
some real good value around if you can find it.
Diversification is for girls innit ha
I can't remember the date or
price and I didn't track them, so immaterial really.
I think what goes up comes down more in these volatile conditions, more haircuts.
However you gotta start somewhere, so if long and averaging you may well be fine, because there is
some real good value around if you can find it.
Diversification is for girls innit ha
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/06/report-jpmorgan-chase-and-citibank-ho...
shell and bp are a proxy for the oil price. a couple of weeks ago I felt (and posted) it was the time to get out of commodities, that the run was coming to an end. it's not a great thing to be involved in long term as it can be extremely volatile.
$ strength is curious. i know that a flight to the dollar is standard practice when there is global fear, but not after it has been incredibly devalued. or so one might think.
more $ strength this morning, mainly against a diseased ridden euro
DXY is heavily weighted with the euro so main driver of this index spike
Don't think it's a really true representation of $ value however
DXY is heavily weighted with the euro so main driver of this index spike
Don't think it's a really true representation of $ value however
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