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MartinK
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The French presidential election look like a slam dunk for sitting president Emmanuel Macron who’s polling has been steady mainly in the 24%-25% range in most polls for the last 6 months. The main betting arena is in the “To finish in the final two”, after the first round of voting. There are  four possible contender to join Macron in the final round, the Jean-Luc Mélenchon, Valérie Pécresse, Marine Le Pen and Éric Zemmour.

Marine Le Pen (National Rally – far-right) – is favourite to join Macron in the final two as she did in 2017. That time though, she had just the one contender from the right hand side of French politics in the shape of François Fillon of the LR (centre-right party), this time she has two right wing contenders, Valérie Pécresse (LR) and Éric Zemmour (Populist). It’s mainly  Éric Zemmour who has really dented her polling numbers which were in the 20’s prior to his inclusion and currently sit around the 16%-17.5% range.

Valérie Pécresse LR (centre-right party) – Won the LR primary in December and received a boost which saw her polling reach a high of 18%, but mainly in the 16.5%-17.5% range. Has fallen back since and now polls in the 14.5%-16% range. Her rhetoric has moved towards the right in recent speeches in what is seen as a tactic to counter the populist candidate  Zemmour.

Éric Zemmour (Populist) – A broadcaster turned politician (where have we seen that before), has recently been convicted of hate speech for the third time, but is appealing the conviction, and just like Trump has made immigration a main plank of his platform. His current polling is in the 13.5%-14.5% range and like Trump his best chance may be in getting previous non-voters who may identify with his views to the polls, and as such his polling numbers may well under count his support.

Jean-Luc Mélenchon (France Unbowed) – Rallied the left’s vote in the 2017 presidential election to be a close up 4th just 600k votes behind the second placed Marine Le Pen, and need a repeat effort to have any chance in this year renewal. He had been running neck and neck with the environmentalist Yannick Jadot for much of last year on 8-9%, but in the last couple of month Jadot’s numbers have fallen back to a general mark of 5% with  Mélenchon’s breaking into double figures. In 2017 he was on 11%-12% at this time, but support surged to 19% in the polls and with the right split three ways, if he is able to unite the left again has a sporting chance of reaching the final two.
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Report Escapee April 24, 2022 1:29 PM BST
I'm green all over on both markets, only about +£40.
I had upto £1k win/lose on a couple of outcomes, was expecting to go deep today, but I can't be ar5sed with trying to deal with their insane  layout.

G'luck on your bets.


France - Presidential Election -- 2nd Round Vote Percentage - Macron                    £81,644 Matched


55.00-59.99%    1.76 1.77 1.78   1.85   1.86   1.87   £31,526
        £15 £34 £10     £543 £90 £2  
50.00-54.99%    3.15 3.2 3.25   3.6   3.65   3.95   £31,991
        £102 £90 £94     £40 £1 £150  
60.00-64.99%    7.2 8.2 8.4   9.8   13   15   £8,984
        £67 £48 £19     £200 £100 £1  
45.00-49.99%    12.5 13 14   28   29   32   £7,651
        £3 £76 £2     £20 £35 £24  
40.00-44.99%    100 110 120   1000   -   -   £282
        £10 £20 £5     £3        
65% or Higher    75 100 110   440   600   940   £1,032
        £2 £2 £1     £1 £1 £3  
35.00-39.99%    100 110 260   -   -   -   £95
        £2 £6 £1              
29.99% or lower    210 400 1000   -   -   -   £39
        £2 £10 £12              
30.00-34.99%    15 24 100   -   -   -   £45
        £29 £6 £5              




France - Presidential Election -- 2nd Round Vote Percentage - Le Pen                    £55,050 Matched


40.00-44.99%    1.71 1.72 1.77   1.83   1.85   1.88   £23,559
        £179 £11 £12     £100 £462 £200  
45.00-49.99%    3.2 3.3 3.4   3.75   3.8   3.85   £17,265
        £148 £5 £5     £69 £90 £1  
35.00-39.99%    7.4 7.6 8.6   10   12.5   13   £6,691
        £100 £5 £86     £50 £50 £130  
50.00-54.99%    11 12 20   27   28   29   £5,179
        £20 £15 £110     £32 £12 £30  
55.00-59.99%    21 110 120   790   1000   -   £516
        £9 £2 £10     £1 £3      
30.00-34.99%    25 80 85   380   400   1000   £897
        £51 £8 £3     £1 £5 £4  
29.99% or lower    120 140 150   1000   -   -   £563
        £2 £10 £3     £3        
60.00-64.99%    100 110 1000   -   -   -   £315
        £20 £4 £3              
65.00% or Higher    100 110 1000   -   -   -   £64
        £20 £8 £10              
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 1:34 PM BST
"isn't it still much better to cash out yourself rather than giving betfair an extra slice?"

yeah, I could have probably squeezed it to £60 from £40 but i ain't that faffed after spending an hour with customer survive, I just want out


"what is the issue?"
Dyslexia
Report razz April 24, 2022 1:41 PM BST
fair enough, idk why ppl use the cashout button in 2022 though lol, why not just use the sportsbook in that case haha
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 1:41 PM BST
YHLT Fired an email off...

do you have an email address?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 1:41 PM BST
Escapee

Customer chat simply can't help, they are low level queries.

You need to speak with or email somebody higher up.


In such a market, with few options, and numerical
options it's far better to leave them in numerical
order rather than jumble them up into price order.

You could try twitter, but that's hit and miss.


The more that complain the more likely they are to listen.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 1:50 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 1:41PM, razz wrote:


fair enough, idk why ppl use the cashout button in 2022 though lol, why not just use the sportsbook in that case haha


It's because all serious punters are banned from the Betfair Sportsbook (and Paddy Power).

Report razz April 24, 2022 2:05 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 1:50PM, politicspunter wrote:


Apr 24, 2022 --  1:41PM, razz wrote:fair enough, idk why ppl use the cashout button in 2022 though lol, why not just use the sportsbook in that case hahaIt's because all serious punters are banned from the Betfair Sportsbook (and Paddy Power).


can't be that serious and still using the cashout button though? :D

was joking about sportsbook, obviously they gub you super quick, as do all the euro books generally. US books have it much better these days.

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 2:05 PM BST
I think email is support@betfair.com

I have a name I email @ betfair. Com


Theyve been hiding stuff...


Go to the top...



top2rated
top2rated20 Apr 22 14:33Joined: 28 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 12,641 | Blogger: top2rated's blog
Email the CEO - don't piss about with Customer Service or Live Chat.

CEO Peter Jackson's email address - peter.jackson@betfair.com

He'll pass it on to an underling but at least it'll get things moving
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 2:30 PM BST
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Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 2:35 PM BST
If someone has made a conscious decision to do it they are totally clueless.  The market might just have been set up incorrectly and as a result the change was automatic
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 2:35 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 2:05PM, razz wrote:


Apr 24, 2022 --  1:50PM, politicspunter wrote:Apr 24, 2022 --

Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 2:36 PM BST
I personally never use the cash out button but understand, in a case like this, why you would. The problem with US books is the often very high commission they charge.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 2:46 PM BST
I've used cash out on football when a live game
with lots of liquidity.

Nearly always gives slightly more than the offer

Not sure you can beat it in those circumstances
without waiting to get matched, and risking a goal
or card.
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 2:49 PM BST
It's daft but it's far too trivial to contact the CEO.  Twitter is prolly your best bet if you have an account.  Greyhounds are in number order even though they've got names.
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 2:55 PM BST
"Greyhounds are in number order"

I should mentioned this to customer service and asked if they were planning to change it to favourite order? and if not, why not?
Report razz April 24, 2022 2:57 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 2:36PM, politicspunter wrote:


I personally never use the cash out button but understand, in a case like this, why you would. The problem with US books is the often very high commission they charge.


depends on the sport and your edge but the higher limits for most things can easily outweigh the odds if you can access them at least. the late action on them also can get you nice odds as euro books close odds for a lot of sports before the start.

Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:01 PM BST
There is also the major problem of trying to open an account with them. Most won't accept a UK based account.
Report razz April 24, 2022 3:04 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 3:01PM, politicspunter wrote:


There is also the major problem of trying to open an account with them. Most won't accept a UK based account.


yeah, a lot of euro countries can use some of them though, I got an oversees address I was using luckily. you can get around it if you really wanted too.

Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:05 PM BST
I know of one guy who was using here and a US based book to arb. Everyone was going fine until the day came when all his losses were on here and his winnings were with the US book. The US company emailed him to say that they had accepted his bets in error and were voiding them as he was based in the UK.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:07 PM BST
It's a very risky game. If you get caught, you could easily lose the lot.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:09 PM BST
https://www.predictit.org/markets/17/US-Elections
.

I use this company for guidance only.
Report razz April 24, 2022 3:12 PM BST
I've never had any problems with them over the years. I mean it's gambling there's a large inherent risk regardless haha. If he didn't have a non UK address for his account then sounds like his own fault as they make it clear that they don't accept UK users.
Report razz April 24, 2022 3:14 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 3:09PM, politicspunter wrote:


https://www.predictit.org/markets/17/US-Elections.I use this company for guidance only.


yeah it's ok for reference but they limit you to small amounts on each market and they take a big % of your winnings iirc when you withdraw. for big markets like elections I don't put that much stock on them compared to alternatives that have no limits and much more liquidity.

Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:17 PM BST
Any US based companies that you can recommend that accept UK based accounts? You can message me if you prefer.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:30 PM BST
According to Belgian media

Guadaloupe: Le Pen 69.6% (2017 Macron 75.1%)
Martinique: Le Pen 60.87% (2017 Macron 77.6%)
Guyane: Le Pen 60.7% (2017 Macron 64.9%)

In Saint Pierre at Miquelon it was close (50.7% to 49.3%). Saint Martin and Saint Barthélémy are reported as 55-60% for Le Pen.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 3:33 PM BST
https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/1518171556857499653/photo/1
.

Turnout.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 4:01 PM BST
France, presidential run-off election today:

Turnout at 17:00 CEST

...
2002: 67.6%
2007: 75.1%
2012: 72.0%
2017: 65.3%
2022: 63.2% (-2.1)

Source: Ministry of the Interior
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 4:03 PM BST
If anything, a lower turnout helps Le Pen but for it to be significant it has to be very low.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 4:29 PM BST
France, Presidential run-off election today:

Projected final turnout (by pollster)

ELABE: 72%
Ifop: 72%
Harris Interactive: 72%
Ipsos: 72%

2017 election: 74.6%
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 5:11 PM BST
72% isn't much less than 2017, certainly not the "millions of abstentions" the the media have been portraying.
even though I "cashed out" for +£40, it's left me with +£65 on 60-64.99% and +£725Crazy on 65%+
so I've got something to root forCool

2017 was 66.1% Macron
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 5:26 PM BST
I would be not just surprised, I would be astonished if he achieved that again.
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 5:32 PM BST
someone has taken or fat fingered 55-59.99% all the way from 1.85 down to 1.5 for a few hundred


France - Presidential Election -- 2nd Round Vote Percentage - Macron                    £90,394 Matched


55.00-59.99%    1.47 1.48 1.5   1.84   1.85   1.89   £36,982
        £19 £254 £27     £90 £34 £295  
50.00-54.99%    2.36 2.5 3   3.4   3.45   3.5   £34,277
        £70 £108 £1,632     £29 £88 £100  
60.00-64.99%    7.2 7.4 7.6   990   1000   -   £9,654
        £9 £9 £13     £2 £6      
45.00-49.99%    6.2 13 15   32   34   48   £7,950
        £16 £20 £75     £12 £20 £2  
40.00-44.99%    7.6 110 130   -   -   -   £284
        £13 £20 £11              
65% or Higher    7.4 7.6 70   940   -   -   £1,062
        £9 £13 £100     £2        
35.00-39.99%    10 110 120   -   -   -   £99
        £4 £5 £31              
29.99% or lower    210 400 1000   -   -   -   £39
        £2 £10 £12              
30.00-34.99%    10.5 11 130   -   -   -   £45
        £2 £4 £20              
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 5:38 PM BST
ELABE: 72%
Ifop: 72%
Harris Interactive: 72%
Ipsos: 72%


BBC news just said turn out is 63% (so far) big difference to your polls PP
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 5:55 PM BST
The 72% is estimated final turnout.
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:35 PM BST
obviously something been leaked in the news somewhere
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:44 PM BST
J’ai les résultats des votes les gars
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:44 PM BST
Emanuel Macron a gagné avec 56,1 et Marine Lepen 43,9
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:47 PM BST
Rigole avant 20h car Macron a gagné et a entre 55% et 58% d'après les journaux belges. Condoléances...Quand on choisit des complotistes extrémistes incultes...J'ai honte de voir ce que tu es devenue...
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:47 PM BST
Laugh before 8 p.m. because Macron won and has between 55% and 58% according to Belgian newspapers. Condolences...When we choose uneducated extremist conspirators...I'm ashamed to see what you've become...
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:49 PM BST
Les belges ont toujours donné les bons résultats avant 20h... macron gagne entre 55 et 58%... putain     ...The Belgians have always given good results before 8 p.m.... macron wins between 55 and 58%... damn
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 6:54 PM BST
Putain de merde ... remember that from my French exchange days
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 6:54 PM BST
Someone laying 100K at 1.12 55-60%.
Report frog1000 April 24, 2022 6:58 PM BST
Looks like four more years of rising costs of living for the poor and weekly protests/riots.
Report leif April 24, 2022 6:59 PM BST
Macron won with 66% in 2017.

worm slowly turning.
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 7:01 PM BST
Looks like four more years of rising costs of living for the poor ... Unless you are a Tibetan monk living in a Himalayan cave
Report leif April 24, 2022 7:01 PM BST
58% this time
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:08 PM BST
so despite Macron's shortcomings (no pun intended) who is disappointed if Le Pen does not win?
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 7:09 PM BST
so despite Macron's shortcomings (no pun intended) who is disappointed if Le Pen does not win?   ... obviously the 42% that voted for her
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:14 PM BST
true but i meant on this message board.
it is very worrying. if you can point to a far right
system of governance that has been a success then it
is one more than i can think of.
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 7:16 PM BST
The most far right form of governance is the USA.  They have Google Amazon Boeing VISA Disney Mastercard etc
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 24, 2022 7:19 PM BST
Now if you can show me a far left form of governance that is a success or isn't corrupt in the extreme?

I'm not a subscriber to The Republican Party, I'm a centrist who would vote for Macron if I was French, but Melenchon would likely be worse than Le Pen imo
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:20 PM BST
Aye, the left wing is pretty right wing over there.
always much hilarity when the reps call the dems "socialist"
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:22 PM BST
oh aye, the extremes are always a disaster but in this case it is far right
so seemed pertinent to mention it
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 7:35 PM BST
Now if you can show me a far left form of governance that is a success or isn't corrupt in the extreme?

I can't think of one, nor can I think of one that hasn't had massive support and or interference from the super powers. So I guess we'll never know.

I remember Cuba being demonised for decades, and then I learnt that it had the highest number of Doctors per capita in the world which made me wonder what it was really like as it obviously wasn't as bad as media was making it out to be.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:40 PM BST
very few so called left wing goverments ever adhere to ideals of socialism.
people are just too greedy & corrupt.
it is a higher standard to aspire to though.
the far right is quite honest in just being reprehensible and not caring
who knows it.
Report frog1000 April 24, 2022 7:43 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 7:14PM, northanlite wrote:


true but i meant on this message board. it is very worrying. if you can point to a far right system of governance that has been a success then it is one more than i can think of.


What was about her policies that make you think she is 'far right'?

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 7:48 PM BST
Looks as if polls may have overstated Le pen vote again.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 7:51 PM BST
Macron, 44, will make history by becoming
the first French president to be re-elected
in 20 years.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:51 PM BST
rog1000 • April 24, 2022 7:43 PM BST
What was about her policies that make you think she is 'far right'?

dunno, just a vague feeling
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 7:51 PM BST
Plenty of action on Smarkets

https://smarkets.com/event/42651571/politics/europe/france/2022/04/24/18-00/2022-french-presidential-election-macron-2nd-round-vote-share
.
Report frog1000 April 24, 2022 7:54 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 7:51PM, northanlite wrote:


rog1000 • April 24, 2022 7:43 PM BSTWhat was about her policies that make you think she is 'far right'?dunno, just a vague feeling


Fascinating have the media can just give the label and people go along with it without finding any 'far right' policies in what she actually says.

Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 7:55 PM BST
I always get a good laugh from their charade democratic voting shams

They’ve not even counted one vote yet, not even sent the ballot boxes to be opened to start the counting

Yet pencil has conceded and the media are reporting a landslide win for granny boy

Riveting stuff
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 7:58 PM BST
is she a bit left wing for you frog.
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 8:01 PM BST
Smarkets have two brackets 54-58% and 58-62%. Looks like a toss up.
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 8:07 PM BST

frog100

Fascinating have the media can just give the label and people go along with it without finding any 'far right' policies in what she actually says.


80%+ people go along with what ever the media and politicians say.

I would caution you against taking what LePen says and her "policies",  and concluded she is not "far Right"

Not sure if you remember "Levelling up", "No tax increases" "There were no parties", "WMD", "Promise not to raise University Fees" etc etc. How did those pan out?

I can't think of an honest politician in power, past or present. (ok maybe 2-4 in 100 years )


It is prudent to look beyond what a politician says their policies and see what their history is, otherwise you'll be sucked in like cult.

LePen's history includes her party's history, and that has "Far Right" in the record books.

Report frog1000 April 24, 2022 8:10 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 7:58PM, northanlite wrote:


is she a bit left wing for you frog.


He economic policies of reducing retirement age and increasing welfare were much more left wing than Macrons.

Report jollyswagman April 24, 2022 8:10 PM BST
frog1000 • April 24, 2022 7:54 PM BST
Apr 24, 2022 -- 7:51PM, northanlite wrote:

rog1000 • April 24, 2022 7:43 PM BSTWhat was about her policies that make you think she is 'far right'?dunno, just a vague feeling


Fascinating have the media can just give the label and people go along with it without finding any 'far right' policies in what she actually says.


in much the same way bozo's appearance at one downing street event is now widely believed to be 9 minutes despite him having provided zero evidence in support of this figure. i noticed someone pointed out that 25 minutes was actually mentioned previously, no evidence of this either.
Report Mexico April 24, 2022 8:13 PM BST
Sont

I always get a good laugh from their charade democratic voting shams


Have you considered sticking some money on Le Pen if you believe you know more about the results than those making this prediction.

Is over £200 available at 600+ on Betfair. Fill your boots?
Report Escapee April 24, 2022 8:17 PM BST
"Wealth cascading down thru the generations"
"I did not have 5ex with that girl"
"Biggest Tax Give away this century"
"The election was stolen, I have evidence"
"£350m extra per week for NHS"

are you in the 80%+ plus who believes what a politician say is the truth, and a policy is an unbreakable promise frog1000?

Good luck with that
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 9:06 PM BST
Not one vote counted and macron is standing on stage as the victor

What a show..
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 9:12 PM BST
France, presidential election run-off today:

73% counted

Macron (EC-RE): 54%
Le Pen (RN-ID): 46%
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 9:14 PM BST
so sticky talking p1sh again then. that checks out
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 9:28 PM BST
The ferrari always delivers!!!
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 9:30 PM BST
France, presidential election run-off today:

73% counted

Macron (EC-RE): 54%
Le Pen (RN-ID): 46%

Smarkets go 2.0 54-58%
Report politicspunter April 24, 2022 9:31 PM BST
https://smarkets.com/event/42651571/politics/europe/france/2022/04/24/18-00/2022-french-presidential-election-macron-2nd-round-vote-share
.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 9:32 PM BST
sticky will be along telling us the election was stolen soon
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 10:35 PM BST
They haven’t counted a vote and calling MAcron the winner

PlainConfused

How they call anything when there’s no votes counted ffs

They might as well not count the votes then
Report Mexico April 24, 2022 10:41 PM BST
Sont

Le Pen available at 1000. Nobody, not even yourself, are prepared to believe Le Pen won.
Fill your boots at 1000 if you believe there is any chance Le Pen won.


How about a little less conversation, a little more action, please.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 10:42 PM BST
How is the new world going Sont? seems a lot like the old one to me.
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 10:43 PM BST
You keep missing the point of my post mex

I’ve said how do they know the result when a vote hasn’t been counted nothing to do with who I think won Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 10:43 PM BST
North

The new world is here
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 10:44 PM BST
oh ok, i probably haven't been paying attention.
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 10:45 PM BST
It’s like knowing the result of a raffle before the ticket is pulled...
Report Mexico April 24, 2022 10:52 PM BST
Sont

As usual there isn’t a point to your post.

1000 available but you are too scared to lump on. Unless you believe Macron won?


BtW .Some of the votes have been counted.
The 58% isn’t the official result. If the 8pm prediction was 50.1% to 49.9% there wouldn’t have been a victory speech and Betfair would not have Le Pen at 1000.

Lump on at 1000 . Put up or shut up?
Report cryoftruth April 24, 2022 10:52 PM BST

sticky will be along telling us the election was stolen soon


Stickyis also timber. And trilby
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 10:55 PM BST
How do they know the result before a vote has been counted ?
Report Mexico April 24, 2022 10:58 PM BST
Exactly cry.

Does anybody know what the French translation of “The Kraken” is?
Report Mexico April 24, 2022 11:00 PM BST
Sont

Nobody “knows” the result. It is a prediction.

Some votes have been counted.

Lump on at 1000 if you believe it to be incorrect.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 11:01 PM BST

Apr 24, 2022 -- 10:55PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


How do they know the result before a vote has been counted ?


i think the count is well under way m8

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 24, 2022 11:10 PM BST
Kraken in French is le Kraken


Octopus is la pieuvre
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 11:14 PM BST
in french the english term Kraken is Kraken
hth
libérer le kraken
Report SontaranStratagem April 24, 2022 11:36 PM BST
They called the result before a vote had been coutned, pencil had conceeded and macaroni had declared victory before a vote had been counted
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 11:48 PM BST
exit polls m8. not a new thing.
Report northanlite April 24, 2022 11:51 PM BST
also they waited until well over half had been counted but don't let that
get in the way of your delusions
Report SontaranStratagem April 25, 2022 12:45 AM BST
No they didnt they called it at the time the polls were closing like they do over here

The exit polls they dub it
Report SontaranStratagem April 25, 2022 12:59 AM BST
Have you seen the pic of him on stage?

Its not the same bloke Laugh its so blatant that one, its like thheir trying to be funny ffs
Report northanlite April 25, 2022 1:24 AM BST
a fake macron?
Report northanlite April 25, 2022 1:25 AM BST
care in the community
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 25, 2022 9:34 AM BST
Sont, AFAIK the French votes are counted electronically not by hand like in the UK, so the actual vote is known almost immediately after voting closes.  In any event, exit polls meant the result was not in doubt.
Report lapsy pa April 25, 2022 1:02 PM BST
Seems as if Le Pen got most of her vote from the South coast and North east,areas of higher unemployment and immigration.The 'promises didn't work in the rest of the country and people do get taken in by these false promises that rarely materialise.
Good result overall.
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