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[i]​Please supply deaths caused solely by covid 19, where covid is the only cause of death listed on the death certificate, broken down by age group and gender between Feb 2020 up to and including Fec 2021.[/i]

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Thank you for your enquiry.

We have provided analysis on COVID-19 as the only cause of death by age and sex in England and Wales for your requested time period.

Table 1: Number of deaths where COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate, 1 February 2020 to 31 December

2021, by sex and age group, England and Wales




Females 2,821

Male 3,362

A lot of kerfuffle over bugger all?
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Report leif January 23, 2022 12:11 PM GMT
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021

Home  About us  Transparency and governance  Freedom of Information (FOI)  COVID-19 deaths and autopsies Feb 2020 to Dec 2021

Release date:
17 January 2022
Report i_agree_with_nick January 23, 2022 12:15 PM GMT
These figures do look very low and probably much lower than most would have thought.  However, it might be more meaningful if we could see the numbers for deaths where Covid is not necessarily the sole cause on the certificate, but still the primary reason.
Report hong kong fooey January 23, 2022 12:24 PM GMT
These figures came out early last week.  No mention on BBC or ITV.
Report leif January 23, 2022 12:32 PM GMT
* Should read

​Please supply deaths caused solely by covid 19, where covid is the only cause of death listed on the death certificate, broken down by age group and gender between Feb 2020 up to and including DEC* 2021.
Report casemoney January 23, 2022 12:46 PM GMT
Shocked 6,000 deaths WTF
Report clouded leopard January 23, 2022 2:13 PM GMT
Shocked
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 2:36 PM GMT
Some of them in that government will be utterly sh!tting themselves

As for the comments about “staying obsessed with co vid” your damn fooking right we are

We’ve just had a bunch of loonies play the most ridiculous scam in history to get a few quid and to keep us under their thumb

If you think we’re letting that slide.... Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 2:39 PM GMT
And still the big elephant in the room... what did they put in those vaxxines???

If they’re owning up to this now or at least allowing the media puppets to try and find a way out of their mess... there has to be something afoot ..
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 2:42 PM GMT
That vaxxine push and that wealth transfer for 6000 deaths in two years.

Jesus wept the lot that played along with it for financial gain are in big trouble as well

There will be no pity, no mercy, no going easy on them

The cops who are still in their positions right now... get out whilst you still can.

There’s a war coming, a storm Wink
Report saddo January 23, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
I saw the numbers, and was more than surprised at the gender imbalance which was hugely swayed towards male deaths.
Has this been mentioned constantly on the news over the last couple of years? We'd not hear the end of it if it was reversed.
Report DancingBraveTheBest January 23, 2022 3:22 PM GMT
How many died of Influenza??
Report saddo January 23, 2022 3:24 PM GMT
Zero I think. Wink
Report DancingBraveTheBest January 23, 2022 3:25 PM GMT
Probably the biggest scam has been played out on us all over the past 2 years and God only knows what else they got planned for usSad
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 3:41 PM GMT
I think they’re play here is to basically hint it was all a scam to get the biggest gas and light response ever

Won’t get the desired effect because it’s our turn to infiltrate the reaction Wink
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 3:43 PM GMT
The ones who have had the vax and have stopped wanting more will raged

What have they put in them...
Report shiny new shoes please January 23, 2022 3:55 PM GMT
ExcitedGrin
All they are is dust in the wind
Same old song
Just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do
Crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see
Report Mubey25 January 23, 2022 3:57 PM GMT
The government had access to the true data all along, they knew it wasn't a threat, which is they partied away, yet still enforced unnecessary lockdown anyway, absolutely unforgiveable.
Report DancingBraveTheBest January 23, 2022 4:06 PM GMT
Spot on Mubey.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 4:09 PM GMT
There lies their get out card and the new lot have plausible deniability

It’s going to be breaking down of the system itself so they won’t get away this time
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 4:12 PM GMT
Johnson and the others shouldn’t be allowed to walk away, keep them there where we can get to them Wink
Report leif January 23, 2022 4:26 PM GMT
Those figures may suggest that healthy young people were/are in no more danger of dying of Covid than they would be if they had contracted a nasty strain of Influenza?

The 'vulnerable' could have had their jibjabs and the rest of us could have been left alone in much the same way as the NHS have given Influenza jabs to the clinically vulnerable.

Yet you have the Chinese culling hamsters and locking down whole areas for the sake of 3 instances of Covid very recently.

This is about a serious transfer of wealth and control. effall else IMO
Report shiny new shoes please January 23, 2022 5:17 PM GMT
Has this ever happened before .Confused
Lemmings need jabbing

I only wanted to see you
Laughing in the purple rain
Report hong kong fooey January 23, 2022 5:19 PM GMT
It would be very interesting to see which politicians bought shares in these vaccine companies in the
last two years .
Report moisok January 23, 2022 5:24 PM GMT
many of the people involved are part of the industry and/or get their research funding from where I wonder

china a big contributor to british unis too   - how quaint

as are the lobbyists and big pharma etc etc  and so it goes on

and why wouldn't they  - any of us would seize the chance
Report logikal January 23, 2022 5:52 PM GMT
Only 8 deaths for people 24 and under. Be very interesting to get a FOI to see how many under 24s have died within 28 days of getting the jab or had serious reactions.
Report shiny new shoes please January 23, 2022 5:54 PM GMT
Jab all kids
Worst Pandemic ever  ExcitedLaughGrin
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 6:19 PM GMT
8 deaths in two years ffs Crazy

I bet more of those under 24s have died from cocaine/ecstasy abuse during the past week

I knew a lass who had turned 18 and went out on a first clubbing night and had a line of coke (first time trying it Sad) and had heart attack, thankfully she survived but stories like that aren’t uncommon. She hasn’t touched cocaine since Laugh.
Report truehoncho January 23, 2022 6:36 PM GMT
I keep posting the same old numbers since March 2020 and nothing has changed my mind. 258 children died of flu in the 3years 2014/17. NO other conditions involved and healthy otherwise. What a load of hysterical nonsense the last 2 years has been.

Yes SS, drugs and alcohol will kill me young people every year. Especially in Scotland where they have a disgraceful record for drug problems.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 6:38 PM GMT
I thought cocaine was a drug basically to be used in a relaxed setting ie a dinner or something

Taking it whilst exercising isn’t a good idea

And using it in a flashy light hot nightclub isn’t a good idea either
Report dave1357 January 23, 2022 6:39 PM GMT
DancingBraveTheBest • January 23, 2022 3:25 PM GMT
Probably the biggest scam has been played out on us all over the past 2 years and God only knows what else they got planned for u


Nothing planned for me. They know who "u" are though.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 6:39 PM GMT
My uncle use to do it at football games and said he felt his heart was coming his chest sometimes
Report Johnny The Guesser January 23, 2022 8:05 PM GMT
.."the only cause of death listed on the death certificate"  is very narrow.

What about where covid accelerated someone's demise , say with asthma or a multitude of other ailments  - do we just disregard all those ?
Report truehoncho January 23, 2022 8:06 PM GMT
What about where covid accelerated someone's demise , say with asthma or a multitude of other ailments  - do we just disregard all those ?  ---- Well that's how we normally treat them when it's flu Johnny.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2022 9:03 PM GMT
Moving the goal posts regularly now Laugh

Need to face facts the scamdemic is over time to find the next fear
Report layingisthewayforward January 23, 2022 9:26 PM GMT
Thegiggilo will be along shortly to tell 7 million kids have long covid CrazyCrazy
Report truehoncho January 23, 2022 9:30 PM GMT
If they read his posts, nightmares is what they will have. He has a Marvel Comic attitude to life. Everything is a dark and bleak.
Report SontaranStratagem January 24, 2022 4:11 PM GMT
The media mentioning the number 17,371 as a true number today Laugh

Even that is pretty pathetic

The true number is whatever the flu figure has been over the same period
Report clouded leopard January 24, 2022 4:23 PM GMT
Reclassified flu or thereabouts then
Report clouded leopard January 24, 2022 4:25 PM GMT
Deafening silence from the cov worshippers recently ... The socialist utopia dreamers have had their main toy taken away.. for a while anyway
Report i_agree_with_nick January 24, 2022 4:28 PM GMT
This is the figure for those who have died with no underlying conditions.  It's bound to be a low number.  Just for starters, millions of people have high blood pressure or diabetes.
Report JetLoneStar January 24, 2022 5:44 PM GMT
Average age covid death higher than average life expectancy


Laugh
Report shiny new shoes please January 24, 2022 6:04 PM GMT
/\ Devil
Report SontaranStratagem January 24, 2022 6:28 PM GMT
They can dress it up how they like

They’ve given up with it as it’s back to war drumming with the bad heels of Russia
Report TimmyRiggins January 24, 2022 7:42 PM GMT

Jan 24, 2022 -- 4:11PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


The media mentioning the number 17,371 as a true number today Even that is pretty pathetic The true number is whatever the flu figure has been over the same period


Bless your little soul.

Report SontaranStratagem January 24, 2022 8:37 PM GMT
You still trying to blag being right...
Report TimmyRiggins January 24, 2022 11:32 PM GMT
No time for blagging, sunshine. I'll leave you to do that Wink

I'm too busy working, before I shoot off for the summer.
Report thegiggilo January 25, 2022 1:42 AM GMT
They've put some hours into posting on here,conspiracy theories must pay well one of the worst forums in the universe and they're on it 24/7..Shocked
Report Giuseppe January 25, 2022 1:44 AM GMT
i have most of them blocked mate, sick of reading their rubbish!
Report Johnny The Guesser January 25, 2022 8:49 AM GMT
From the week ending 13 March 2020 to the week ending 24 December 2021, the number of excess deaths above the five-year average in England and Wales was 134,391; of these, 128,693 were recorded in England and 6,950 were recorded in Wales.
Report Stickywickets January 25, 2022 9:07 AM GMT
Deaths from COVID-19 with no other underlying causes

.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnootherunderlyingcauses?s=08
Report Stickywickets January 25, 2022 9:10 AM GMT

Jan 25, 2022 -- 9:07AM, Stickywickets wrote:


Deaths from COVID-19 with no other underlying causes.https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnootherunderlyingcauses?s=08


17,371

Under 65 - 3,774

Over 65  - 13,597

Mass vaccinations for nothing
The fall out from this will be seismic
Whitty, Johnson et al better book on that one way ticket to Mars with Musk

Report Johnny The Guesser January 25, 2022 9:25 AM GMT
Now if you could just explain the other 117,000 excess deaths please ?
Report dave1357 January 25, 2022 9:28 AM GMT
I wonder which banned poster Stickywickets is?
Report eyeball January 25, 2022 9:29 AM GMT
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformatio...
Report clouded leopard January 25, 2022 9:30 AM GMT
Wonder how much if that excess death is down to cancelled treatments NHS while they tended to a few 'other' unwell people
Report Stickywickets January 25, 2022 9:32 AM GMT
13 March 2020 to the week ending 24 December 2021 is almost two years
Report edy January 25, 2022 9:58 AM GMT
TIMBER!
Report Escapee January 25, 2022 4:33 PM GMT
if someone dies due to a heart attack, caused say by kidney failure and or pneumonia, which
in turn was due to being on a ventilator (50% of people put on a ventilator die from illnesses
directly caused by being on a ventilator)

and they were put on a ventilator because they had covid.


what do you think it will say the cause of death is on the death certificate?


Answer: there is no consistent methodology for a doctor to fill in the death cert.
and the likely answers from 100 doctors  would vary from single causes such as covid, heart failure, to a whole list of contributory causes.


Personally, I think the quest for the data to be more reality based than it currently is,
is an honourable pursuit, and I wish you success in finding it.

But to base it on death certificate which is solely at the doctors own discretion is sadly
as misjudged as the way the data is currently assembled.
Report moisok January 25, 2022 6:45 PM GMT
PHARMA backed SAGE driven compilation.  They will all be off to their pharma based jobs and sponsored places in their ivory towered protected universities and  laboratories
Report leif January 25, 2022 7:37 PM GMT
Johnny The Guesser • January 25, 2022 9:25 AM GMT

Now if you could just explain the other 117,000 excess deaths please ?





70k more deaths in 2020 overall but of that 70k

66k were in the over 70+ groups , and of that 66k

18k were aged 90 or over

..so why are young healthy people getting jibjabbed ?
Report leif January 25, 2022 7:44 PM GMT
Should read 77k more deaths in 2020 compared to 2019.

consistent figures in all groups below 70 -90+ groups
Report saddo January 25, 2022 7:45 PM GMT
Probably because of the claims that the jibjab stopped transmission (it doesn't)
Report PorcupineorPineapple January 25, 2022 7:57 PM GMT
Got a link to the claims that the jab stopped transmission?
Report Giuseppe January 25, 2022 8:00 PM GMT
covid passports (esepcially for international travel) are based on teh assumption that vaccines stop transmission, otherwise they make no sense at all
Report PorcupineorPineapple January 25, 2022 8:15 PM GMT
Well that's a bit of a jump. Just a simple claim from the pharma companies that these vaccines stopped transmission will do. Just one.
Report Giuseppe January 25, 2022 8:21 PM GMT
are you distinguishing between transmission and infection?

i'm pretty sure there were claims at one point that vaccinated people had a smaller viral load than someone infected and unvaccinated

not sure whetehr the companies theesleves said this
Report Giuseppe January 25, 2022 8:22 PM GMT
i think saddo means infection not literally transmission (passing it on)
Report PorcupineorPineapple January 25, 2022 8:30 PM GMT
Well I'm guessing he can clarify. I think saddo knows what he wrote.
Report timbuctooth January 25, 2022 9:22 PM GMT
vaxed have 251-times the viral load of purebloods

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/
Report TimmyRiggins January 26, 2022 6:28 PM GMT
Nice not to be the looniest Tim on the forum Grin
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