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Why in this time of social care crisis are we head into winter is Javid going along with this approach of axing 40,000 social care staff who want autonomy over their own bodies?

Absolute insanity when we know that the jabs do not stop you catching and spreading Covid. The key is to top up jabs for the vulnerable so they are safer not sacking 40,000 of their carers.

Lets hope he U-turns like they did on Covid passports.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/social-care-crisis-stressed-angry-25232610

Social care is facing the worst workforce disaster in living memory as exhausted and underpaid carers quit the profession in their tens of thousands.

A catastrophic cocktail of low wages, staff burnout, mandatory Covid jabs and post-Brexit immigration rules has brought the industry looking after our old and vulnerable to its knees.

But today the Sunday Mirror declares enough is enough as we launch a campaign to end the looming destruction of social care in Britain.

We want an end to:

Wrung-out skilled carers switching jobs to become delivery drivers, supermarket staff, Amazon workers, because, shamefully, the money is better.

We want an end to:

An astonishing 120,000 jobs in social care in England remaining unfilled – with 42,000 unvaccinated care workers set to leave in weeks under the Government’s “no jab, no job” rule.

We want an end to:

Three out of four homes reporting an increase in staff exits. That’s the way it’s been since April. Surveys say half quit due to stress – and 44% found better pay elsewhere.

We want an end to:

Homes forced to choose between moving residents out or closing – like Barrock Court, near Carlisle, which shut this month after attempts to recruit new employees failed.

Our Stop The Care Crisis campaign calls on the Government to no longer treat care workers as second-class staff compared to the NHS.

We call on Boris Johnson, and health and social care secretary Sajid Javid to pledge:

An immediate review into pay, bringing care into line with similar NHS roles.
A professional register for care workers in England as other UK countries have.
The addition of care to the Shortage Occupation list so migrant staff can fill vacancies.
An end to unpaid travel time for home care workers. Shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth backed our campaign saying: “It’s time we cared for carers as they care for us.”
Despite skill and dedication, the average care home worker earns £9.01 an hour – 10p above the national living wage. They take home up to £18,000 a year – £7,000 less than an equivalent role in the NHS, contributing to a staff turnover rate more than double the national average.

Yet we’ll need another 488,000 health staff and 627,000 social care workers to meet demand over the next decade, research from charity The Health Foundation suggests. At Wren Hall home, in Selston near Nottingham, we were told two staff quit after Amazon opened a nearby warehouse. An evening housekeeper on £9.30 an hour now gets £13.50 an hour with the online giant – on top of a £1,000 joining bonus.

Six other staff there quit for better-paid jobs in the NHS. Wren Hall managing director Anita Astle admitted: “I’ve worked in care homes 32 years and have never known staffing issues like it.”

Some desperate homes are offering cash bonuses to lure recruits. Cumbria Quality Care is handing new starters £150 for joining up. Agincare, with 50 homes, is offering a £500 welcome bonus. It has 340 vacancies listed online.

Staff turnover across care homes is estimated at about 30% and rising. One move that could help fix this would be a care register in England which would help professionalise the industry and the status of workers – as well as helping bring pay into line with the NHS.

The Government could also include all care workers on the Shortage Occupation list used to grant visas and reduce the qualifying salary level from the £25,600 currently required for the recruitment of overseas care workers. The list, as it stands, includes only care managers and senior care staff.

Meanwhile, waiting lists for care in England have soared to 300,000 – a rise of 26% in three months, says the Association of Directors of Adult Social Services. An insider at a leading care group predicted dramatic hikes in council tax to fund social care shortfalls. They warned: “Operators are seeing councils not placing people in homes as they think staff numbers aren’t enough to support further admissions. More homes could go out of business.”

The social care crisis is not just restricted to homes. With more unable to take patients, the NHS – which has a treatment waiting list of 5.6 million – faces a knock-on beds crisis.

And shortages in domiciliary care are rising. Around 200 patients are blocking hospital beds in Cornwall despite being fit to go home.

In Norfolk, blocked beds are set to rise “significantly” with hospitals unable to discharge patients due to lack of home care. Dr Sanjay Kaushal, co-director of Norfolk Care Association, said: “We are waiting for a train crash” adding carer shortages will be “the difference between life and death” for some.

The crisis in domiciliary care is made worse by more than half of councils in England refusing to insist providers pay care workers for travelling time between visits, Unison union research reveals. It means many home care staff end up on less than the national living wage. Then there is the threat to safety. Staffing shortfalls have triggered concerns at two care homes previously ranked “Good”. Little Oyster Home in Sheerness, Kent, and Seven Gables on the Isle of Wight were ordered to improve by the Care Quality Commission. An inspection of Little Oyster in July found “every area” of care at the 64-bed home had been hit by a lack of staff making it unable to “meet even the most basic of people’s needs”.

One resident said: “This used to be a jolly place. I wanted to die here. Now I want to move.” Little Oyster did not respond to a comment request. Seven Gables was put in special measures after a check found only two carers for 20 residents. New owner Churchlake Care said it was addressing the issues.

The staffing crisis is also hitting families desperate to visit loved ones. After an outright ban in lockdown, many are now being told there aren’t enough workers to handle visits. Coming soon is the shadow of mandatory vaccines forcing workers out. From November 11, all home staff must be fully Covid vaccinated, with no medical exemption. A government decision on making Covid and flu jabs an NHS job condition is likely to be made later this month. The Department of Health and Social Care said: “We appreciate the hard work and dedication of the social care workforce, providers and local authorities working to deliver good quality adult social care through the pandemic and beyond.

“We are providing at least £500 million to support the care workforce. We run regular national recruitment campaigns.”

Facing axe
Kimberlea Steel, 36, says she loves her care home job but has avoided having a Covid jab, fearing it is not safe.

The mum of two said she had watched as colleagues left for better pay in less stressful jobs but hoped there would be a U-turn allowing her to stay.

She said: “It’s infuriating because I love the job. I joined during the pandemic and have given everything to make sure our residents are cared for.

“I’ve got all the qualities to be a carer and I wish I had done it sooner. Now my hand’s being forced and I’ll be out of the door.

“I’m sad about it. I know there are easier jobs and I could earn more elsewhere, but it’s such a pleasant place.

“I’m hanging on in case there’s a U-turn or delay.

“I get so much fulfilment in the care sector, I don’t want to leave it.”

Kimberlea, from Bedlington, Northumberland, said she left an office job to join her care home in August last year. She is considering cleaning work.

The director of CCFTV - the care campaign group supporting Kimberley - called for urgent action.


Director Jayne Connery added: “The care home sector was already on its knees long before the pandemic struck. It’s understood that protecting vulnerable elderly from the effects of covid is a priority - but do we then want to see vulnerable residents instead decline due to staff shortages?

“CCFTV suggests [the Health Secretary] attends some shifts in a care home and he might then stop his random, ideology statements about a care sector he and his predecessors sidelined, offering insufficient funding and attention to.”

Better off as a delivery man
Carer Shane Finan quit after long hours and low pay took their toll – and now gets “more money and less stress” as a delivery driver.

He said: “It was work, work, work and little pay… then a clap at the end of it.”

Shane, 34, was a part-time domiciliary care worker, visiting elderly clients in the Kirklees area of West Yorkshire. But he was left working seven-day weeks as exhausted colleagues quit.

He found himself spending up to 12 hours a week driving between clients, clocking up 200 miles – with neither his time nor petrol paid for.

Shane said: “You’re paid from the minute you arrive to the minute a visit ends. We used have a cup of tea with them – but we had no time in the pandemic.”

Axed over vax
A carer forced out of her job over mandatory vaccines believes vulnerable residents will suffer from worsening staff shortages amid the “no jab, no job” rule.

Charley Walker said she is “disappointed” with how the Government has treated carers who risked their safety in the pandemic.
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Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 8:25 PM BST
Chop them. If they don't want to get vaccinated, let them sign on the dole with the other scavengers.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 8:30 PM BST
Childish baiting PP. Some people have loved ones in care and your fascist attitude only does harm.
Report dave1357 October 21, 2021 8:43 PM BST
Well, if someone is ignorant and selfish as these anti-vaxxers are, they should welcome them being removed from the care of their relatives.
Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 8:45 PM BST
Correct. I wouldn't want any anti vaxxer conspiracy theorist near any of my loved ones.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 8:46 PM BST
But I doubt of your going to go around and help them out Dave. You'll be too busy trolling. Just let them rot eh?
Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 8:46 PM BST
Let them sign on the dole and apply for as many jobs as they like where vaccinations aren't a requirement.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 8:48 PM BST
Another facist, let teh old and vulnerable rot as long as my wet dream is fulfilled.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 8:48 PM BST
fascist
Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 8:50 PM BST
Even better, if while on the dole and they refuse a job because it would mean being vaccinated, stop their dole money.
Report Dr Crippen October 21, 2021 8:52 PM BST
Easy to spot the sick old men on here these days.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 8:54 PM BST
I thought you weren't talking to me PP.

'Stop their dole money for not doing what I want' is the cry of the fascist.

These carers have worked for years on a pittance doing jobs you would puke at he thought of. One thing is for sure, you won't be volunteering to wipe some old man bottom. But you will be bent over as far as you can when its your turn.
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 21, 2021 9:06 PM BST
Shouldn't be sacked over this.

But equally, residents and their families should be able to know if they're at increased risk from unvaccinated carers.

Simply make care homes tell us how many needlephobics they have so we can all make an informed decision on where to house our loved ones.
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 9:08 PM BST
Thats fair Porcupine. I support that.
Report nineteen points October 21, 2021 9:10 PM BST
House your loved ones in your house or is that beneath you?
Report truehoncho October 21, 2021 9:14 PM BST
Some need more care than families can offer. But the principle is good.
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 21, 2021 9:14 PM BST
Up to a point. I'm not trained to deal with Alzheimer's, paralysis etc, so maybe should defer to people who are. I also have a mortgage and kids to bring up and am sadly not wealthy enough to give up work for a decade or so. Nice for those who can afford to sneer at others though.
Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 9:24 PM BST

Oct 21, 2021 -- 3:06PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Shouldn't be sacked over this.But equally, residents and their families should be able to know if they're at increased risk from unvaccinated carers.Simply make care homes tell us how many needlephobics they have so we can all make an informed decision on where to house our loved ones.


If that happened, many care homes employing anti vaxxers would go bust in a very short time.

Report politicspunter October 21, 2021 9:26 PM BST
Think about it. Do you place your elderly loved one in...

a/ Care Home 1. Everyone fully vaccinated and following government guidelines with regard to Covid.

b/ Care Home 2. We don't give a feck about vaccinations or what the Government say about Covid.
Report macarony October 21, 2021 9:29 PM BST
The wife has worked as a carer for 12 years they are constantly under paid and understaffed, every care home has the same problem lies,  they can't get enough staff and they can't keep them. Low pay hard heavy work constantly having to repeat the same learning courses every year in  your own time. People leave the minute a better paid job comes up or a job with better hours or closer to home. These care homes haven't got a clue how to handle their staff minimum wage regardless of the time of day or day of the week, zero incentive to stay in the job.
Report Whisperingdeath October 21, 2021 9:30 PM BST
Seems the Bayern Munchen manager has covid despite being double jabbed. Thank God he doesn’t work in a Care Home!
Report glasshouses dogman October 21, 2021 9:46 PM BST
I'll ask people a simple question here. If you can find a job with better pay and working conditions than your present job what would you do? Is it no wonder care workers are leaving their jobs and also care homes struggle to replace them.

People have bills to pay and that is much easier if you are earning more money - especially now with inflationary pressure on prices in our economy..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 21, 2021 9:50 PM BST
Basically in low paid jobs, yes.

Not so simple a bit higher up
but these folk in minimum wage
doing a thankless task, often
with trauma of death just around
the corner for those they care for.

Take the money and run, if you can.
Report thegiggilo October 21, 2021 10:02 PM BST
My mum was a cleaner when i was a kid terrible wages hard work with my nan i used to go with them,then she worked in care home terrible pay nightshifts always looked terrible,had a stroke at 54 fit as a fiddle definitely work related..Never worked after that permanent weakness on left handside,thankless job and poor pay..
Report glasshouses dogman October 21, 2021 10:17 PM BST
I'll mention here somebody who worked in care some years ago when they did home visits. They were paid for the time they spent in the homes of their clients for which they were paid a little above the minimum wage rate. They were not paid for the time travelling between the homes they visited although they were given a mileage allowance for the distances they covered.

When they could they found a better paid job although they had a certain sadness as they had become very friendly with some of their clients.

One thing that they were aware of was what the rate their visits were charged at compared to what they were paid. Some of these care firms seem to make a lot of profit. A care home has a significant investment in their property so they would expect to make a reasonable profit level because of that.
However, what does a firm providing home care visits need? Probably only an office.

They suggested it would be a good idea for local councils to take over the organisation of the home care visits. With the large profits not being "sucked" out of the system  the wages and conditions for the workers could be improved. That was their idea although it may not go down with those who believe as much as possible should be done by the private sector.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 21, 2021 10:29 PM BST
Simple enough to set up
national care service.

But the cost would be held
against whoever set it up.

Tories making juicy profits
from homes and staff.

More interested in destroying
NHS than setting up ncs
Report casemoney October 22, 2021 12:53 AM BST
Many of these people suffering from advanced dementia would not want to be the Burden they have become to their Families or anyone for that matter

There is no purpose for them being alive ,they can linger on for years in semi coma like states , its time to look at how this type of advanced care

should carry on for .
Report casemoney October 22, 2021 12:54 AM BST
How Long
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 22, 2021 8:00 AM BST
It's absolutely abhorrent that we have managed to privatise the care of elderly people; that we've given it to organisations whose primary motivation is making profit, not giving the best care. Abhorrent.
Report lapsy pa October 22, 2021 9:35 AM BST
Probably no coincidence there is talk of an 'assisted dying bill' this morning,whatever about the morals,the timing is plain wrong.
The social care crisis is a problem for the last few years,it is snowballing though and nothing seems to have been done to address it,the only solution looks to be immigration to fill places from say Far East/India
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 22, 2021 10:31 AM BST
An assisted dying bill
seems in rather poor taste
at the mo.

Solution is to fund a proper
care service, and folk will
have to pay for it.

Taking cash from folk with the wrong
illness is simply unfair.

Let's close tax loopholes
and fund a proper, fit for purpose,
care system.
Report truehoncho October 22, 2021 10:49 AM BST
It's absolutely abhorrent that we have managed to privatise the care of elderly people; that we've given it to organisations whose primary motivation is making profit, not giving the best care. Abhorrent.  -- absolutely. The NHS is going the same way. The trouble is even as a publicly owned service the criminal corruption going on is syphoning more out than is going into service provision.
Report eyeball October 22, 2021 10:59 AM BST
The majority of care home workers are hard working individuals in a very difficult and stressful job . I have nothing but admiration for their dedicated  under paid toil . How they can be blackmailed, like this is beyond my comprehension. The reasons do not even make sense.
The vaccine does NOT prevent you from being infected.
The vaccine does NOT prevent you from infecting others.
They do NOT induce "sterilizing immunity".

SAGE even published these facts.

Why do the government and the ignorant keep repeating the same untruths?
Report Timber October 22, 2021 11:02 AM BST
It's going to be interesting when care homes get wiped out with covid again

Who will they blame this time??
Report Dr Crippen October 22, 2021 11:04 AM BST
whose primary motivation is making profit, not giving the best care. Abhorrent.  -- absolutely.

And on the other side of the coin is a publicly run organisation where no one is accountable, no one is responsible, and few put in any effort because their money is guaranteed. 

Even worse.
Report Timber October 22, 2021 12:43 PM BST
Involuntary euthanasia coming soon

It's all for the greater good & safety of the population

Protecting the NHS
Report Whisperingdeath October 22, 2021 12:49 PM BST
Pretty sad The was this country has gone since Thatcher.

The bottom line is that supply and demand issues over labour will fir e the change that is needed through with via increased wages and better conditions or a return to Public Ownership.
Report Whisperingdeath October 22, 2021 12:50 PM BST
The experiment in greed has failed. This will b3 sorted out by necessity and nit politicians.
Report Timber October 22, 2021 1:16 PM BST
I tell you what, there are a lot of adults who would happily sign a euthanasia slip for their parents
Especially if they had a few quid
Those care homes eat away at the inheritance don't you know
Report truehoncho October 22, 2021 1:39 PM BST
Why do the government and the ignorant keep repeating the same untruths?  --  I think a lot of it is to do with justifying their dreadful response to the virus. I don't see a conspiracy, just stupidity.
Report Whisperingdeath October 22, 2021 1:46 PM BST
This is the age of post trust. Bare faced lies and people supporting their LIAR

We have got what we DESERVE

This will be sorted out on the streets eventually.
Report politicspunter October 23, 2021 1:32 PM BST
https://smarkets.com/event/42288882/current-affairs/covid-19/lifestyle/will-covid-restrictions-be-re-introduced-in-2021
.

Betting market on this. CHECK THE RULES CAREFULLY !
Report macarony October 23, 2021 4:17 PM BST
My wife is a care worker I do hate to use the word care worker because they are not cares they are nurses, but even in this country we would be embarrassed to admit we pay a nurse the minimum wage, so we gave them a new title (care worker)
Report politicspunter October 25, 2021 12:08 PM BST
Health Secretary Sajid Javid says he is minded to make Covid vaccines compulsory for the estimated 1.2 million front line health staff in England, rather than just those working in social care.

Vaccination helps protects the individual from serious infection and death, but also reduces their chance of spreading the virus.

From 11 November, it will be mandatory for anyone who works in a Care Quality Commission-registered care home in England to prove they are fully vaccinated, unless they have a medical exemption.

But it appears uptake is already high. Latest figures from NHS England reveal more than nine in 10 staff in care homes for older adults have been vaccinated with at least one dose, and more than eight in 10 have had two doses.

Javid says about 95% of NHS staff in England accepted the offer of a Covid vaccine when they became available earlier in the year.

from the bbc.
Report Dr Crippen October 25, 2021 12:17 PM BST
All those front line care workers who worked through the worst of the pandemic, and were highly likely to have caught covid and now be immune.
Those are the people who pose the least risk.

Well they can all clear off now if they don't want jabbing.
Report Johnny The Guesser October 25, 2021 1:38 PM BST
..so what about the ones who haven't had covid ? ..You agree that it's jab or job for them Doc ?..
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