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104 days after been fined £90m for dumping sewage into the environment and less than 12 hours after Gov voted to protect water companies and not our rivers, @SouthernWater were dumping sewage at 60, yes 60, different locations along the south coast of England.

#COP26 hypocrisy
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Report lfc1971 October 25, 2021 9:02 PM BST
Never get into discussions with the south of Ireland Boris
You end up wondering is it you or them that’s confused - it’s impossible Grin
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 25, 2021 9:15 PM BST
Cut out the middlemen

Be a good tory, keep them fishies happy
sh1te in yer garden.
Report lfc1971 October 25, 2021 9:19 PM BST
Laugh
Report flat16 October 25, 2021 9:32 PM BST
Unfortunately we do **** in landfills under Tories or socialists ,in EU or out ,nappies and other sanitary products go to landfill and join water courses ,as of course fertilizers and pesticides do, we are really screwing the country and the planet but blame Brexit if it helps you and don't forget to moan about mince pies at xmas.
Report Giuseppe October 25, 2021 9:51 PM BST
"Wastewater from over half our population failed to meet environmental standards"

"Yes it’s raw sewage - that’s what the report said"

maybe it did but it didn;t in the part you quoted
Report lapsy pa October 26, 2021 9:36 AM BST
Well Flat,

In 2019 'we solemnly promise we will have the same or higher environmental standards than the EU'

In 2021 'Please do not go near or swim in sea due to the raw sewage'

I think there could be a shortage of sultanas/raisins for the mince pies,a supply chain issue.

At least it isn't jonny foreigner sheet.
Report lfc1971 October 26, 2021 9:38 AM BST
EU - we have checks we like to do to ensure standards are met - on trade and other things
U.K. ( Boris and Frost etc)  - of course that’s fine
EU - but we don’t want to do the checks we want you to do them for us
U.K. - ohh , well ok :(
Boris to Frost - Did we just agree to do that ahhhh whats going on ?
Report xmoneyx October 26, 2021 11:44 AM BST
you mean english seas, scottish water public not private
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 11:48 AM BST
Still pumping Sh1te
Report politicspunter October 26, 2021 11:50 AM BST

Oct 26, 2021 -- 5:44AM, xmoneyx wrote:


you mean english seas, scottish water public not private


Good share option! Coach and train companies that operate from England to Scottish coasts to see the beautiful clean water Grin

Report flat16 October 26, 2021 12:30 PM BST
Tragedy about the mince pies Lapsy ,of course pre Brexit ,the UK was an EU utopia ,Eden like even ,remoaner cherubic angels floating about everywhere ,however:
Prof charles Tyler (exeter univ') found evidence of 200 chemicals (sewarage works related) affecting fish in rivers etc ,this ecological disaster was patently while we were in the EU.
Perhaps when we finally manage to extricate ourselves fully from the EU grasp we can lobby together to outlaw these disgusting practices across the UK ,EU and just about everywhere else on the planet.
Report flat16 October 26, 2021 12:35 PM BST
The Ganges might be the most polluted river on the planet ,shall we go with "probably brexit related" or full blown , a source from the BBC confirms Brexit again !
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 12:45 PM BST
Scottish trains going on strike for cop26?

Might be good buying chance.
Report lfc1971 October 26, 2021 12:46 PM BST
A forth beach , Ayr south , has rated poor 4 years in a row

What is polluting the water ? 

- Poo .
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 12:46 PM BST
Bbc breakfast

WATCH: Untreated sewage was released into Langstone Harbour, Hampshire for 49 hours.

Photographer Chris Pearsal, who captured the footage, tells #BBCBreakfast ‘it needs to stop’.
Report lfc1971 October 26, 2021 12:49 PM BST
Scottish water is drawing up plans for new waste water treatment plants

Which is expected to be complete in time for the 2023 bathing season
Report lapsy pa October 26, 2021 1:13 PM BST
lol lfc.

Flat, i just think it shouldn't be happening in this day and age,it is a shame,poor form from the EU not to help out a bit in getting treatment supplies to you as well.
Report Timber October 26, 2021 1:24 PM BST
EUROPEAN UNION NAMES MEMBER CITIES DUMPING SEWAGE


https://www.wwdmag.com/european-union-names-member-cities-dumping-sewage
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 1:27 PM BST
Jenny Jones


Today, in the Lords, we will put up to nine amendments back into the puny #EnvironmentBill on soil, air, targets, the office for environmental protection, role of courts, bees and pollinators, #Sewage! and protection for NI. Let's hope the Govt listens this time. #LordsSayListen!
Report flat16 October 26, 2021 1:28 PM BST
Our rivers are a nightmare ,polluted ,as we have stated but fertilizer and pesticide run off as well ,full of invasive signal crayfish.
Tragically even with all this they would be light years in front of most of Africa and Asia ,especially India and China.
Literally "**** happens" and if you combine this with the projected population explosions ,our current debacles will seem most trivial.
Report saddo October 26, 2021 1:28 PM BST
I might pop over so Sandsend soon donny, my neighbour likes fossil hunting and it will do her good. I'll see if there are any shellfish warnings.
Report macarony October 26, 2021 1:28 PM BST
Well if it stops the EU from stealing our fish, on a serious note is the sewage less polluting than the chemicals used to process the sewage lets not forget it still ends up in the sea. Fish stocks have plummeted over the last 50 years in the North sea, over fishing and the type of fishing carried out is usually blamed for fish stocks decline.
Report Foinavon October 26, 2021 2:16 PM BST
flat16
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Our rivers are a nightmare ,polluted ,as we have stated but fertilizer and pesticide run off as well ,full of invasive signal crayfish.
Tragically even with all this they would be light years in front of most of Africa and Asia ,especially India and China.
Literally "**** happens" and if you combine this with the projected population explosions ,our current debacles will seem most trivial.


Everyone would wish this didn't happen but it's not a recent trend and is the result of decades of underinvestment. This who are saying it's because of recent political decisions are mistaken.
Those who are saying stop it now should consider the alternative to opening the sluices when there is a lot of storm water which would be sewage in the streets of towns and cities.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 2:19 PM BST
It is a recent trend though.
Report saddo October 26, 2021 2:19 PM BST
Too many people about, that's the source of most problems.
Report flat16 October 26, 2021 2:26 PM BST
Foinavon ,I was trying to make the point ,that this has happened for centuries and before ,certainly all thru our EU membership ,also thru out the EU and the rest of the world.
Population density is a huge factor ,England population density would be approx x7 to Ireland ,I suspect.
Report Foinavon October 26, 2021 2:31 PM BST
The population has increased over the past few decades faster than improvements in infrastructure has been able to cope with especially in the South East. The UK population was relatively stable during the second half of the 20th century so maybe there was some complacency which has turned into bad planning. We see the same problems with other things such as housing, roads, health care, water supply in summer and electricity generation, the latter being brought to a head by other considerations. The answer is more investment and controls over population growth where possible until the situation improves.
Report Foinavon October 26, 2021 2:33 PM BST
Yes, I'm agreeing with you Flat 16.
Report macarony October 26, 2021 2:34 PM BST
The UK'so immigration policy over the last 50 years as been like a runaway horse.Who knows how many people now live here
Report flat16 October 26, 2021 2:44 PM BST
Sorry about that Foin' I misread ,still distracted by that first race at Catterick bridge ,thort fav was a moral
Report Foinavon October 26, 2021 3:11 PM BST
Good luck with the racing, I gave up following it a long time ago despite my forum name.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 3:46 PM BST
.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59050129

..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 3:49 PM BST
Minehead

https://twitter.com/holnicoteNH/status/1452962051211636746?s=19

..
Report thegiggilo October 26, 2021 4:17 PM BST
Enjoy the staycations,mouthful of turd..BlushSad
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 4:44 PM BST
The "floater" voters not impressed.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 5:35 PM BST
Protesters launch 'name and shame' campaign against MPs, who are accused of enabling water companies to dump raw waste into waterways

By
Jack Hardy

25 October 2021 • 9:00pm

Sewage would be diverted on to roads if it cannot flow into rivers, a Tory MP warned on Monday, as the Government was accused of enabling water companies to dump raw waste into waterways. ...
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 5:59 PM BST
This @SkyNews report is shocking. A 37% rise in raw sewage discharged into English waters in a year

Is this Boris Johnson’s “golden age”
Report Whisperingdeath October 26, 2021 7:00 PM BST
We voted thes3 clowns into office. We deserve what we are getting!
Report Whisperingdeath October 26, 2021 7:00 PM BST
..... and that appears to be sheite
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 7:36 PM BST
New: Government u-turns on sewage amendment. Says the Environment Bill will be further strengthened with an amendment that will see “a duty enshrined in law to ensure water companies secure a progressive reduction in the adverse impacts of discharges from storm overflows.”
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 7:37 PM BST
The Tories say they want to enshrine in law a duty to reduce sewage emissions on the same day they set out plans to weaken the ability of the courts to uphold those legal duties through the JR Bill #rawsewage



Lol.


More tory turds
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 26, 2021 10:35 PM BST
Pam Ayres has writ a little pome.

https://twitter.com/PamAyres/status/1452968217828372482?s=19

..
Report wolf3011 October 27, 2021 1:30 AM BST
Quite laughable we are encouraged to take uk vacations at the seaside avoiding travel abroad yet likely to bump into an untreated turd floating past in the sea- what's next, small bits of used toilet roll in "fresh cod " caught at the local chipshops on the coast
Report lapsy pa October 27, 2021 12:18 PM BST
Yes Wolf re staycations and not just beaches,Lake Windermere is at risk of being 'ecologically dead' due to the amount of sewage being pumped into it.(Ambleside sewage plant).Tourism and lack of modern infrastructure also playing a part. Even a world heritage site isn't escaping.
Report flat16 October 27, 2021 12:36 PM BST
River trust .org       Half way thru reading ,covers UK and Ireland ,scary stuff
Report casemoney October 27, 2021 1:32 PM BST
Dreadful , Glasgow streets full of Shyte and rats ,bins not collected for weeks .
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 27, 2021 1:41 PM BST
A local note on sewage flows into rivers - the Environment Agency has said nothing will be done before 2030 about more than 100 raw sewage discharges annually into the River Wharfe at Ilkley by Yorkshire Water (which made a £212m operating profit in 2019/20)...
Report sofiakenny October 27, 2021 2:05 PM BST
case..usual shyte from you..Birmingham is the most rat infested city in Britain...Glasgow not even in top 10.
Report saddo October 28, 2021 7:35 PM BST
ITV now donny
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 7:48 PM BST
Haha, saw it was on, not watching.
Report saddo October 28, 2021 7:49 PM BST
only 14% of our rivers are healthy according to this.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 8:00 PM BST
I remember when Walliams did his swim
and caught some infection.

We used to go quite far inland to swim
in rivers in 60s 70s.

Couldnt get me in sea on North east
coast for fear of floaters.

I thought we were getting so
much better

Sadly long way to go

We really deserve clean water.
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:04 PM BST
laugh can't put 2 and 2 together

risng population due to immigration means more sewage
Report thegiggilo October 28, 2021 8:13 PM BST
The cities with the most rat infestation callouts in October were:

Birmingham – 353
Newcastle – 305
Leeds – 266
Liverpool – 251
City of London – 190
Manchester – 187
Sheffield – 155
Cardiff – 139
Bristol – 131
Edinburgh – 120

Where's Glasgow?Shocked
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:15 PM BST
too cold for rats up there
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:33 PM BST
Giuseppe 28 Oct 21 19:04 
laugh can't put 2 and 2 together

risng population due to immigration means more sewage


...............................


It does, crowed roads schools and hospitals bemoaned for a decade, now its sh1t farms.
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:36 PM BST
citizenship for hong kongers

easier visas for indians

easier visas nor new zealanders

Love
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:42 PM BST
Imagine letting so many people in that we actually can't dispose of their shyte, quite unbelievable that the basics weren't thought about. Now we all pay for it. I do a bit of bandit fishing on the calder but it's near sewage outlets and I wouldn't touch my face afterwards. There are teens jumping into it off a bridge in summer Sad
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:45 PM BST
it's not immigration it's TORY AUSTERITYAngryAngryAngry
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:50 PM BST
This has been getting worse for a long time, thousands of new houses round here and all their sewage goes in the same pot.
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:51 PM BST
You'd need a big piece of land for a new treatment works mind.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 8:53 PM BST
We can dispose of the sh1te
but we don't have chemicals to treat
the sh1te because of brexit.

The numptie racists love to turn stuff
around, and agree with each other.
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 8:54 PM BST
We can dispose of the sh1te
but we don't have chemicals to treat
the sh1te because of brexit.
Crazy
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:55 PM BST
immigratuionLove is grand tries just need to buy more chemicalsAngryAngryAngry but they can't because of brexitAngryAngryAngry
Report Giuseppe October 28, 2021 8:56 PM BST
rejoin the EU now so we can have more chemicals for the immigrant's sewage AngryAngryAngry
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:56 PM BST
The Calder is brown 3 mles from Wakefield, and the reek of shyte had us gagging last time we walked near the sewage works, something not right for sure
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 8:58 PM BST
You voted for brexit

Almost feel sorry its got you gagging
Report casemoney October 28, 2021 8:58 PM BST
Glasgow streets overrun with '1.3 million rats' as city faces bin lorry strike

Cant be far off the top ten with those Figures , The old COP mob will prob be attacked by rats Plain

"Our members are coming across rats every single day, people walking about the streets are seeing rats in back gardens and going into houses, they are absolutely everywhere.” Shocked
Report saddo October 28, 2021 8:59 PM BST
donny, some places must be many miles from rivers. Do they pipe it as far as needed or dispose of it another way, reed beds or summat?
Report casemoney October 28, 2021 8:59 PM BST
Kenny turn his wee Blind Eye Again just like his SNP heroes
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 8:59 PM BST
We can dispose of the sh1te
but we don't have chemicals to treat
the sh1te because of brexit
  Crazy
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 9:01 PM BST
Glasgow streets overrun with '1.3 million rats' as city faces bin lorry strike  -- A bit harsh on Glaswegians Case.
Report casemoney October 28, 2021 9:01 PM BST
"But the first line of defence is environmental health and cleansing and if you continue to cut these services there will be an increase.”

Sturgeon needs to get some of that Indie hidden fund out
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 9:06 PM BST
It's piped, innit, usually flows
down hill to treatment works.

Had discussion years ago, there
must be lots of pipes.

Friend was civil engineer, he
smiled when questioned.
Report saddo October 28, 2021 9:07 PM BST
Must be lots of pipes indeed, it seems a bit backward.
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 9:08 PM BST
"But the first line of defence is environmental health and cleansing and if you continue to cut these services there will be an increase.”  --  Quite right. Environmental health is far more important to the health of the nation than the NHS.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 9:12 PM BST
What other way is there?

Septic tanks?

In France there was a farm near, and he
pumped out his tank every 6 months
or so, that stunk, and was just
a stream he pumped into.

Dunno if that still goes on, but
guess it does.
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 9:15 PM BST
In France there was a farm near, and he
pumped out his tank every 6 months
or so, that stunk, and was just
a stream he pumped into.
-- Crazy nonsense. I have a septic tank. Dumped it once in 20 years only because it got blocked.
Report lfc1971 October 28, 2021 9:19 PM BST
The number of recorded sewage spills in Scotland’s rivers and seas has increased by over 40% in the last five years
Network simply canny cope

Many overflow pipes are close to beaches and wildlife habitats
Scottish water is required to monitor less than 3% of these combined
sewer overflows so true scale is unknown
Report lfc1971 October 28, 2021 9:22 PM BST
Probably blame climate change
Report truehoncho October 28, 2021 9:29 PM BST
Its profiteering from water companies. My village flooded nearly every year for 20 years spilling sewerage down the high street as it did so. Scottish power then compulsory purchased about 2 acres of one of my fields and built a big underground reservoir (best way I can describe it) to take the water and then let it soak away over time. That was 15 years ago and not one single flood since. They could do this any where but it will cost money. That's what it boils down to, nothing else.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 9:34 PM BST
If England cannae get the chemicals
due to brexit, its likely the
Scots will struggle too.
Report saddo October 28, 2021 10:11 PM BST
My daughter and her nine neighbours have chemical tanks donny, get emptied by a company tanker. I think there is little option if its full tbh.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 28, 2021 10:22 PM BST
At a guess it needs to be right
size for house, and they should
know how frequently to pump it
to avoid chances of overfill.

No idea what actually happens.

I once was on a hire boat when
the waste filled up, had to
spend a couple of nights using
toilets in pubs, yikes!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 31, 2021 8:47 PM GMT
Water companies are paying billions to shareholders instead of using the money to solve Britain’s raw sewage crisis.

Accounts reveal English firms paid out nearly £17billion in dividends over 12 years, meaning every customer pays an average of £62 into the pot.


Professor David Hall of Greenwich University, who did the research, said: “Since privatisation companies have given out almost half as much for shareholders as they spent on upgrading and maintaining water and sewerage systems about £57billion compared to £132billion.

The companies have built up a large pile of debt and interest. This has not been taken on to finance investment, but to finance dividends.”
Report sofiakenny October 31, 2021 9:18 PM GMT
case just keep believing the shyte you are fed by the msm..Glasgow not even in top 10..moron.
Report sofiakenny October 31, 2021 9:20 PM GMT
Why do yoon fuds like you want to keep the rat infested scrounging Jocks in a Union?..weird.
Report sofiakenny October 31, 2021 9:50 PM GMT
How come there are no turds floating around in Scottish waters?
Report akabula October 31, 2021 11:17 PM GMT
Is it because you don't like swimming in the sea kennybhoy?
Report lapsy pa November 1, 2021 9:49 AM GMT
Very fair point re that shareholders are benefitting at the expense of investment in infrastructure.(8.47pm)

Amazing how things 'disappear' from news and on to the next thing,it is almost like deflection.Sewage obviously still being dumped,no chemicals to treat it. The supply crisis seems worse based on what i seen in a supermarket shop.I presume the ports crisis is fixed,as are labour shortages in agriculture,food production,care homes, lorry drivers etc.
Report flat16 November 1, 2021 12:46 PM GMT
Lapsy: please remember a huge sector of our media are anti Tory ,anti brexit so the reports of empty supermarket shelves are generally greatly exaggerated or simply as in my county non existent ,small satellite stores like the 24 conv' stores perhaps. 
The "great" fuel crisis was just in the M25 perimeter where the hippies were fking about and of course the media hysteria and panic buying.
The thread header is unfortunately true in this country for centuries as with many many other countries.
Linking these issues to brexit and ignoring, the pandemic and there obvious existence before the referendum ,is tenuous in the extreme.
Report lapsy pa November 1, 2021 1:11 PM GMT
I thought a lot missing and less choice when i went there last week Flat, i accept that covid has a major part in that.
It has been hard to find the brexit effect to now,obviously cheap labour,red tape for exporters and rising costs,probably many companies avoiding UK due to an EU larger market,a lot adding up to what the chairmain of budget responsibilities Richard Hughes maintains at 4% of GDP(covid 2%).
EU and US dropped steel tariffs this morning but UK not included,not in the news.
Report flat16 November 1, 2021 1:21 PM GMT
That Is why I said my county ,literally zero shortages or fuel crisis. Though if I trawled the country I expect I could find an empty shelf somewhere to photograph and put on the front page.
Nearly 10 months OUT ,who thought it would be a quick fix ,how could it be ,still in the transitional stage but much positivity and we left a really bad place.
Report sofiakenny November 1, 2021 1:24 PM GMT
Zero shyte in Scottish rivers and seas..how come?
Report truehoncho November 1, 2021 1:37 PM GMT
At a guess it needs to be right
size for house, and they should
know how frequently to pump it
to avoid chances of overfill.
--  If you have land (and even if you don't in may cases) there is never any need to empty a cesspit. As it fills, it rots, turns to water and drains of to a soakaway/river/sewerage. If they are maintained properly they don't smell or provide any other environmental problems. Far from it they are good for the environment.
Report flat16 November 1, 2021 1:40 PM GMT
SK: density of population is obviously a major consideration ,lack of investment in other countries ,not sure.
The Clyde would have been a candidate but has obviously been cleaned up thankfully.
It was not that I was defending "sewerage in our rivers" ,more, it has been like it  for ever..........so not brexit related.
Could have been glib and said it was because you put all the pish in iron bru and that dreadful tennants lager.
Report sofiakenny November 1, 2021 1:44 PM GMT
Our Scottish Tory mp's voted for shyte to be pumped into your rivers and seas..what rotters.
Report flat16 November 1, 2021 1:54 PM GMT
In Victorian civil eng' ,storm water/gutter/surface often mixed with foul or sewer........this means when it rains a huge volume of mixed material overwhelms the treatment facilities ,who have a time sensitive process ,this mixture cannot be separated or store ............
On these occasions and these occasions only ,they are allowed to release the heavily diluted but heavily contaminated mixture into rivers etc.........most regrettably. It will not be just the UK btw
This was common practice pre privatisation and of course while we were in the common market ,eec ,EU ,Macrons' plaything.etc
Report flat16 November 2, 2021 8:01 AM GMT
Sorry SK ,seems Edinburgh ....Water of Leith has problems CSOs x25 ,concede my geography of the area is vpoor but is as  reported by Edin' news.....sure we both hope they are wrong.
Report politicspunter November 2, 2021 9:28 AM GMT

Nov 1, 2021 -- 8:44AM, sofiakenny wrote:


Our Scottish Tory mp's voted for shyte to be pumped into your rivers and seas..what rotters.


This is the major problem with our dinosaur Westminster system.

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