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21 Oct 21 09:36
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We know that after 4-6 months the vaccines do not do much in the way of stopping people catching Covid.

In winter and with vaccines wearing off cases will likely rise. But remember on freedom day we were told cases would go to 100,000 a day and we went ahead with it.

So what if the vaccines do not stop cases IF they still stop serious illness, hospitalisations and death?

What am I missing? Why is Javid panicking about not enough people getting boosters if the vaccines work for everything apart from cases and he is forecasting the same number of cases that were forecast on Freedom day?

Something does not add up here.

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By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 09:45
Remember these shots were devised for the original strains & those don't exist anymore

About as much use as tìts on a boar

They must be praying it gives some kind of defence against the variants

That's why they are telling porkies about it waning, it isn't, it's just not effective against new strains (TBC after winter)

There is only so long they can blame the unvaccinated, and that is wearing thin already
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 10:15
They don't stop anything. The help prevent the things mentioned in the header. The sooner we are all vaccinated the better.
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 10:24
US average daily Covid deaths
Under Trump (3/1/20 - 1/20/21): 990
Under Biden (1/22/21 - 10/2/21): 1251

Working a treat Laugh
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 10:53
and 9 of the top ten most covid infected states are run by republicans
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 10:55
and ha ha at OP who can't work out what a booster shot is meant to do.
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:13

Oct 21, 2021 -- 4:53AM, dave1357 wrote:


and 9 of the top ten most covid infected states are run by republicans


BULLSHIT

By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 11:13

Oct 21, 2021 -- 4:53AM, dave1357 wrote:


and 9 of the top ten most covid infected states are run by republicans


The problem in the states are Trump supporting anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists who refuse to be vaccinated. When Covid first appeared it was large cities that suffered the most, places like New York and Los Angeles. Now it's Republican run states like Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Texas and Alabama where the problems are.

By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:21
timber can't handle the truth

3/10 of the lowest rates have GOP governors. The GOP is the party of disease and ignorance.

North Dakota and Tennessee racing each other to be the first states to have 20% of their citizens infected with covid.
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:25

Oct 21, 2021 -- 5:13AM, politicspunter wrote:


Oct 21, 2021 -- 9:53AM, dave1357 wrote:and 9 of the top ten most covid infected states are run by republicansThe problem in the states are Trump supporting anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists who refuse to be vaccinated. When Covid first appeared it was large cities that suffered the most, places like New York and Los Angeles. Now it's Republican run states like Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Texas and Alabama where the problems are.


BULLSHIT

By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:25

Oct 21, 2021 -- 5:21AM, dave1357 wrote:


timber can't handle the truth3/10 of the lowest rates have GOP governors. The GOP is the party of disease and ignorance.North Dakota and Tennessee racing each other to be the first states to have 20% of their citizens infected with covid.


BULLSHIT

By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:28
The main problem is mass murderer biden letting in hundreds of thousands of diseased illegals every month and shipping them all over the country
Even had cases of LEPROSYCrazy

Biden supporting, aiding and abetting and facilitating human trafficking and child rape/porn
He should be in Gitmo for crimes against humanity

PLUS fentanyl pouring over the border is killing thousands of Americans
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 11:37
It’s younger people and ethnic black or Hispanic people who are more likely to be unvaccinated
and who tend to be democrat voters . The older population in America are most likely to be vaccinated and republican
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:41
as usual when presented with facts timber explodes in a rage of racist outpouring, misinformation and libellous comment.
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:44

Oct 21, 2021 -- 5:41AM, dave1357 wrote:


as usual when presented with facts timber explodes in a rage of racist outpouring, misinformation and libellous comment.


You presented ZERO facts...just for a change

By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 11:45
Unvaccinated Americans are most likely to be young , male , black and living in rural areas ( most likely republican )
and vote democrat
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:46
The top ten cases per million only Rhode Island has a Dem governor

North Dakota    187,629 
Tennessee    185,863
South Carolina    172,683
Alaska    172,580
South Dakota    171,313
Florida    171,222
Wyoming    171,068
Arkansas    168,477
Mississippi    168,098
Rhode Island    167,561
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:47
9/9 all GOP governors
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:47
source
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:47
The party of disease and ignorance
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:48
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
.
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:50
Laugh WALOFS

Dave numbers the cherrypicker
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:50
Tho can't possible understand how you could be so ignorant as to not realise that the anti-vaccine, anti-science rhetoric of the likes of DeSantis wouldn't have this outcome.
By:
dave1357
When: 21 Oct 21 11:51
Oh so the amount of people who have caught the virus is "cherrypicking"?
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:56

Oct 21, 2021 -- 5:50AM, dave1357 wrote:


Tho can't possible understand how you could be so ignorant as to not realise that the anti-vaccine, anti-science rhetoric of the likes of DeSantis wouldn't have this outcome.


More nonsense, you really are the dimmest moron
De Santis has pushed the vaccine massively
Florida's flu season has just finished, their numbers have plummeted

Florida now has the lowest covid rate in the continental United States. And they’ve done it without mask or vaccine mandates.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1450925905640108032?s=20

By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 11:56
Young people , who tend to vote democrat , are more likely to be unvaccinated and to spread Covid
They may be symptom free and therefore not register on any Covid figures / the older , middle aged who tend to be republican voters will do so
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:57
All this with millions of diseased illegal criminals pouring over the border.
Biden is trying to kill the population with covid, leprosy and crime
It's utterly sickening
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:58
Flying planes in the dead of night, dumping these diseased illegals in Red states
It's a type of genocide
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 11:59
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1450890850343456770?s=20
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 12:00
Florida Registers Nation’s Lowest COVID Case Numbers

https://brownstone.org/articles/florida-registers-nations-lowest-covid-case-numbers/

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 12:01
Many democrat voters , young , will never be included in Covid figures
It’s the older and middle aged who yes tend be republican voters will
There are likely to be more democrat voters who have had - and yes spread , Covid
By:
Timber
When: 21 Oct 21 12:02
It's a shame Biden won't stand trial for his crimes, he will unfortunately be able to use dementia as an excuse
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 12:04
Similar demography and political allegiance in Britain also
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 12:06
America and the UK are very similar in this regard
In relation to age , political party voting tendency etc
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 12:15
Florida appear to have stopped updating their daily death figures because they are so bad. This came after they moved up to be the third worst state for USA deaths (58.143).
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 12:15
58,143
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Oct 21 12:39
''A virus will run its course.''

Many have been saying the same thing from the start.

The sooner the healthy polutation have caught the disease and got over it, the sooner the vulnerable will be safe.
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Oct 21 12:43
It’s a bit rich for democrat voters most likely to have and spread Covid ( quite possibly without any symptoms running around )  - and elderly and middle aged republicans who fall ill and require hospitalisation and may die
to then put the blame on republican voters - upside down thinking and not very nice
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 12:47
The very simple solution is for everyone to be vaccinated. If there is a hard core of Republican, normally white, middle aged and elderly, lower educated citizens who refuse to be vaccinated under any circumstances, I am not sure when this will ever end. When they all die, I guess.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Oct 21 12:48
Most realise the mistake they have made when they are in ICU in hospital bud sadly, for many, it is too late.
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