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Who will get the blame.?.cos it certainly will be no fault of our wonderful Tory govt.
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Certainly not brexit
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1) Putin
2) Russia 3) EU 4) Putin 5) Germay 6) Marcon 7) France 8) Russia 9) Merkel 10) Germany Candles and Blitz spirit  |
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Will just be a case of kennybhoy having his supply cut off because he spent his leckie money in the pub.
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The list goes on and on of course.
But the Greates of Britain will evenhandedly see off all threats by itself. |
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are less windy years, gas pipework maintenance, China overpaying to redirect gas supplies and selective restriction of output from Russia really a pro or anti brexit issue yhtl ?
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Nobody mentioned brexit brentford.
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winnning 1 2 4 8..I think not..would be unwise to cut off the funding of our Tory chums.
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I wasn't clear if yhtl had managed to find an angle (and take that in good spirit btw)
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Ah, but Kenny me 'ald mucker, they be good Russians.
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It won't happen of course but don't let that stop you.
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Less wind.... likely the eu have
diverted the wind over their wind farms. The Dail Mail will start a campaign to get it back. Gas pipes, hmmm, the annual gas pipe repairers holiday camp in eu saw many locked up by eu. Attempts to return to blighty in dingies has been thwarted as the dingies are in the wrong places. Nowt to do with brexit. |
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The internet should be text only... unless you are a child or completely illiterate.
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everyone is short though yhtl, just that govs are stepping in to cover increased costs in Europe for business at least..
maintenance was a covid related backlog from many independent sources, wind is wind...maybe playing the climate stuff too hard whilst reliant on countries who aren't interested in it .. Parts of Europe massively reliant on Poots gas...gets to control price...that's proper madness... |
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If they decide to start conflict (unlikely) most of Europe brought to it's knees in a month by shutting off gas supplies...
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The fact our storage capacity is next to zero may be a factor.
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 Kenny the Bojo Fantasist he cannot help himself .. KENNY 4 BOJO |
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case are you aware that your PM has a personal trainer on 80k a year!!...must be feeding Bozo pies.
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The problem is though, brentford, the EU will get its gas, and the UK is at the wrong end and the wrong 'side' of proceedings. And be under no illusion, the UK is a big consumer of Russian gas.
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Looking at that Picture Kenny he is being robbed
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Double whammy. Complete non-diplomacy with Russia since Putin took power, and relationships are heading that way with Europe.
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What if these issues go on and on, getting worse and worse ?
A power outage might not just be for Christmas |
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What ever happened to our splendid North Sea Gas?
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we aren't though actually wt, we are much less dependent on Russia than many but obviously we do suffer the fallout if everyone is after new suppliers in a lean year for the reasons outlined and Poots gets to control the market in a moment like this ...double bubble for him..strain inter european alliances and carve up the gas market at will for another few billion in the accounts
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Correction: Anti-diplomacy with Russia, and now starting non-diplomacy with the Europe.
The one thing the UK did brilliantly was diplomacy, especially during their imperial reign. They understood the fragility of their position in certain parts of the world, and had a diplomatic core that countries today uphold and strive towards. But since the 2000 and the Declaration of War on Islam, the UK has followed the US Thug diplomacy and hasn't looked back. Neither will the rest of the world. --Just seen your post. 'Putin' would be heralded as 'Master of the Free Markets' if he was on Wall Street. |
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The frenchies have loadsa nuclear energy..cheap as chips.
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go long generators, gas fires and onesies then
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Russia has never atempted any funny business with gas supplies to europe as far as i kmow
they once did with ukraine, i think was over unpaid debts |
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Too true clouded leopard. I have a self-sweeping coal powered generator and several tonnes of trad coal and petroleum coke. Not forgetting commercial canisters of gas and several thousand liters of kerosene. Candles too
When they lights go out, I'll still be owning all you mugs on here |
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personal trainer on 80k a year
worth every penny |
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It's not technically funny business though is it G in it's current guise...they have stuck to the negotiated deals pre shortage...
essentially they could increase output and head off the big price rises (would still be profiting on that) but they are trying to get commitments currently on future deals supplying Germany and others...why the rush from their point of view ..I gather from the other thread they are making positive noises on oncreasingly supply but again guess who's been 'shrewdly' playing that market as per WT's comment... |
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*on increasing
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Yes G. Putin stated just the other day - "If you want gas, buy it on the St. Petersburg exchange".
Nordsteam absolute hammer-blow for the Brits in particular. Pretty much the only other country to trade gas and (Libyan) oil in their own currency apart from the all powerful Petrodollar. They've just been blown in their own back yard-- Germany and Russia trading carbon energy in Euros! The ****g state of the UK. China owns the North Sea oil fields and nobody is trading carbon in Pounds anymore. |
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you said there was "selective restriction of output from Russia "
as far as i am aware they just delivered as normal, and have now actually increasewd supply to push down prices, they ahven't doen anything untoward |
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last thing Russia wants is to scare away customers into the arms of the US
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if you are able to supply more and choose not to for political reasons that's selective output no ?
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Russia just wants to sell its gas, have sanctions liftend and have sovereiognty over Crimea recognised, they're not trtying to take over the world
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winningthought14 Oct 21 23:39Joined: 25 Oct 01 | Topic/replies: 24,448 | Blogger: winningthought's blog
Too true clouded leopard. I have a self-sweeping coal powered generator and several tonnes of trad coal and petroleum coke. Not forgetting commercial canisters of gas and several thousand liters of kerosene. Candles too When they lights go out, I'll still be owning all you mugs on here Love That's impressive Where did you say you were living these days WT ? Just postcode might do |
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why on earth would you choose to increase suplly and push down prices if you didn't have to?
what shop owner would do that? who would buy more stock to push down the price he could charge? |
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In all seriousness though
People should be thinking like this The many laughed their socks off at preppers a decade plus ago |