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The British government waited too long to impose a lockdown in the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic, missing a chance to contain the disease and leading to thousands of unnecessary deaths, a parliamentary report concluded Tuesday.

The deadly delay resulted from ministers’ failure to question the recommendations of scientific advisers, resulting in a dangerous level of “groupthink” that caused them to dismiss the more aggressive strategies adopted in East and Southeast Asia, according to the joint report from the House of Commons’ science and health committees.

It was only when Britain's National Health Service risked being overwhelmed by rapidly rising infections that Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Conservative government finally ordered a lockdown.

“There was a desire to avoid a lockdown because of the immense harm it would entail to the economy, normal health services and society,’’ the report said. “In the absence of other strategies such as rigorous case isolation, a meaningful test-and-trace operation, and robust border controls, a full lockdown was inevitable and should have come sooner.’’

The UK parliamentary report comes amid frustration with the timetable for a formal public inquiry into the government’s response to Covid-19, which Johnson says will start next spring.

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By:
cryoftruth
When: 12 Oct 21 18:07
But never mind. At least Tory donors got plenty of tax payers loot.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 12 Oct 21 18:07
And of course Handcock’s barman did very well from the terrible corruption.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 12 Oct 21 18:09
So that’s it then.
Proven to be both corrupt and incompetent.

The worst ever IK government.

Makes Neville Chamberlain look decisive.

Beyond useless and well on into pure evil.

Johnson for God’s sake go.

Go now.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Oct 21 18:15


Seen this and Thought of you Cot Love
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Oct 21 18:18
You missed

tens of

From start of thread..
Otherwise I agree
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 18:23
It must be a relief for the other nations in the UK that health is fully devolved, have their own CMOs, and have full autotomy (when they are not breaking their own lockdown rules).
By:
sofiakenny
When: 12 Oct 21 18:42
They knew what they were doing....they CHOSE HERD IMMUNITY....does no one remember Cummings saying "thats to bad" when informed of the old being culled.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 12 Oct 21 18:45
They want you to buy into their "stupid" bowlox....they are evil not stupid.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 18:46
They knew what they were doing, until the u turn to lock down. The health freaks advising the westminster government that is.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 12 Oct 21 18:49
Cider,they are toxic,the country is going down the pan(sunlit uplands NI excepted),everything they touch turns to shyyte.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 18:49
It was so blatantly obvious what would happen with these inquiries, as the establishment has accepted lockdown was inevitable, the only question was when. Which as we know is patently absurd.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 12 Oct 21 18:50
they were advised to lock down sooner they chose to ignore that advice...advisers advise ministers decide.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 18:51
There are people determined to destroy the country, lapsy, that's for sure. But it's mostly not current Tory politicians.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 18:52
That's bow locks kenny. Please quote the advice you are referencing.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 12 Oct 21 19:10
Patrick Valance.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 12 Oct 21 19:37
They held an enquiry into the sinking of the Titanic too and whitewashed the whole thing the way they wanted.  Wish this lot would leave a few portholes open and go down quicker.
By:
iamajambo
When: 12 Oct 21 19:45
I'm surprised that I have not seen this mentioned before but my younger daughter is a technical manager at one of the the country's most prestigious Medical Research Centres. In early March of last year she phoned us on a Thursday in early March to tell us that Bozo was going to make an announcement on TV on the following Sunday at 7.00 PM  regarding the first lockdown. So there I was, clued to the TV for a statement which never occurred.

So, Bozo dithered. This was 2 weeks before the first lockdown. If a one week delay in the first lockdown resulted in 10's of thousands of extra deaths how about 2 weeks?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Oct 21 19:53
Each week saw infection, and therefore deaths
double.
By:
truehoncho
When: 12 Oct 21 20:05
should have locked down in 2017/18 to save tens of thousands of flu deaths.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 12 Oct 21 20:09
Sweden never locked down -is there anyone left?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 12 Oct 21 20:11
BORISAngry

TORIESAngry

TORY CORRUPTIONAngry

BREXITAngry
By:
frog1000
When: 12 Oct 21 21:10
Lockdowns likely made things worse not better.
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Oct 21 21:14
The SAGE argument against lockdown on March 13th was that we would end up with a far worse 2nd wave.

Isn't that what happened Confused

The Czechs locked down sooner and harder and indeed had a death rate 1/40th of ours. Then their second wave made them worst in the world.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 21:15
So, Bozo dithered. This was 2 weeks before the first lockdown. If a one week delay in the first lockdown resulted in 10's of thousands of extra deaths how about 2 weeks?


UK is 25th in the country list for reported covod deaths per capita. Just above Poland (26th). Poland had virtually no deaths until winter 2020. Plus of course we are over-reporting them compared to similar countries.
By:
frog1000
When: 12 Oct 21 21:17
Zero evidence that the lockdowns saved a single life.
By:
Cider
When: 12 Oct 21 21:18
Plenty that it has cost tens of thousands of non covid deaths. And a myriad of other disasters.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 12 Oct 21 21:44
How can there be frog?  And how in the name of a virus denier could they have made things worse?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Oct 21 21:47
Pick a random country defence from
the tory fan boys complicit in
the slaughter.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 12 Oct 21 21:48
I'm sick saying this but Johnson is an rsshole.  He triumphed in his "Brexit" election win and over the New year and through January did FCUK all about the virus, which they had been advised about in late November.  He even went against the advice of science, ignored their advice, visited hospitals shaking hands by the dozen and GOT IT HIMSELF!   Laugh  Laugh  Laugh
By:
lapsy pa
When: 12 Oct 21 21:52
Peckerdunne put a thread in chit chat in Jan 2020 warning that this is v serious stuff.
Ireland had lockdowns left right and centre, pro rata population wise about 40% of UK deaths, the argument more densely populated is weak.
Everyone knew there was something seriously wrong in Kent sept/oct 2020, it was ignored.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Oct 21 21:57
Not surprised to see many people revelling in the deaths through mock outrage, every cloud an all that.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Oct 21 22:06
Well those that caused em seem happy
to defend the slaughter.

Nobody happy at deaths but the
feigned indignity suits the tory
fan boys who have spent 18 months
being wrong, time after time after time.

Some of the numpties won't even
have the booster vax

Can't make it up
By:
frog1000
When: 12 Oct 21 22:40

Oct 12, 2021 -- 3:44PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:


How can there be frog?

By:
frog1000
When: 12 Oct 21 22:40
How could they have made things worse:

1. Deplete immunity for other diseases, particularly in young children.
2. Other illnesses not diagnosed iike  cancer.
3. Massive debt leading to inflation and increased national povety killing more people in the long run.
4. Infrastructure decline. A year off work means country falling to pieces. Workers in offices lead to people being left in Afghanistan, lack of HGV drivers (drivers retired and tens of thousands new applications left untoucned).
5. Mental health decline due to issolation and longterm fear.
6. Increased power of the state that will never be given back.

I am sure there are more issues that lockdown will throw up.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Oct 21 22:56
Wheres this Big Flu that has not killed 80,000 over the past nearly 2 years ?
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 13 Oct 21 14:35
Scientists advise, politicians make the decisions = or don't as the case may be, they might just ask their wife what should be done.  Right or wrong the buck stops at No 10, otherwise, there is no point in having a No. 10.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Oct 21 14:52
lol at listen to the scientists

they have been wrong about everything
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Oct 21 14:53
"100,000 cases a day after July 19th"
By:
truehoncho
When: 13 Oct 21 16:05
Some of the numpties won't even
have the booster vax
---  numpties lol. you mean those that have another opinion.
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