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peckerdunne
05 Oct 21 18:37
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Now when that were all fawning over Rishi, I told you be will never be PM.

He won't be.

The Tories will continue borrowing and will continue spending.

The money free is alive and well.

The state will get bigger, the benefit system will get bigger.

The state will increase the tax take to continue with its spending and socialist levelling up.

They will tell you it's a transition period and that you will all be part of the bigger wage higher productivity society.

But you will be taxed, your cost of living will increase and the pound in your pocket will be devalued as ever increasing

inflation hits your pocket to pay for the money printer and the increasing numbers of workers on benefits.

Where will the bigger wage come from.

They won't be taxing the wealthy corporations.

May ordinary folk will be hurt badly.

Printing money will be very expensive in the end but you will be told it's levelling up.

You will see more and more socialist policy but those more well off will profit from the inevitable

Massive growth in asset based wealth.

Forget about affording a home of your own, even a fancy new hybrid  car may become out of reach.

So what looks like Socialism will ultimately just be more pain more poverty and more dependence on the ever increasing state.
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Report Cardinal Scott October 5, 2021 6:41 PM BST
Report peckerdunne October 5, 2021 7:37 PM BST
Over 40%. Of people in universal credit are working.

Watch those hopes and dreams be shipped away.
Report peckerdunne October 5, 2021 7:51 PM BST
2\3 of Americans are net tax recipient's.

That's the definition of a socialist system.
Report LoyalHoncho October 5, 2021 7:59 PM BST
It's just a pity that the Tories couldn't incorporate a little socialism into their manifestos and polices.  It would assure them of Landslides for the next I don;t know how long.  And it wouldn;t be that hard to show, in actions not words, that they care.  One thing is certain.  The current Labour leaders simply don;t have it them to incorporate any Tory/Capitalist polices, do they?  They're certain of a Jesus type 40 years in the wilderness under these two and their lumbering party system.  Sadly.
Report peckerdunne October 5, 2021 8:08 PM BST
Middle class Britain on benefits.
Get back to work you dogs.
Report Dr Crippen October 5, 2021 8:11 PM BST
The Tories give as much away as the economy will stand, just like Labour.

The difference is, that because Labour has usually wrecked the economy when the Tories come in, there is less to give away.

But Labour usually takes over a buoyant economy from the Tories, so they have more to give away.
Report lapsy pa October 5, 2021 8:12 PM BST
Yep Eustice and him asking the civil servents to'lead by example' ie go into unsafe,unventilated offices instead of part working from home,dogs is right.
Report peckerdunne October 5, 2021 8:32 PM BST
That's why the spending will continue Pa. Regardless of what Rishi says, trying to play on people's morals but the veneer is no more, people have cottoned on and don't want to go back to a life of drudgery.

Eusless and his cronies will have a major dilemna.

The only option will be more socialist policies or be voted out.

Don't mind all this financial responsibilities, it ain't happening.

Higher taxes higher inflation and millions of job vacancies.

We are at a point of no return.
Report Cardinal Scott October 5, 2021 8:35 PM BST
Few things in life are certain but one thing is:

Dr Crippen will have stood in opposition to the introduction of the minimum wage buy a Labour government.


Average economic growth is higher under labour governments than tory governments

Facts can't be washed away
Report Cardinal Scott October 5, 2021 8:37 PM BST
Shoot me for the typo  Blush

Everything else is in order with that post. Grin
Report truehoncho October 5, 2021 8:39 PM BST
Average economic growth is higher under labour governments than tory governments-- you may be right but how equitable is it?
Report lapsy pa October 5, 2021 8:46 PM BST
Agree with that PD,i just can't believe the charade,the sheet hitting the fan and a condescending yoke telling the lambs we are just going a transitional period for the next 10/15 years, some sheet transitional period,well done tory boys.
Report Dr Crippen October 5, 2021 8:48 PM BST
Average economic growth is higher under labour governments than tory governments

That might seem the case, but it's a trick.

Borrowed money has to go somewhere and it goes into the economy.

That's how Labour gives the illusion of growth, by boosting GDP on the back of borrowing.
Report 1st time poster October 5, 2021 8:59 PM BST
tory,s tonight declaring all out war on business tonight johnson saying its not up to governments to subsidise pay through uni credit,
think we all invested to deep in the model to change it now
Report peckerdunne October 5, 2021 9:06 PM BST
Yep there in a bind, and it could unravel.

Who knew
Report Zephyrus October 6, 2021 12:09 AM BST

Oct 5, 2021 -- 2:48PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Average economic growth is higher under labour governments than tory governmentsThat might seem the case, but it's a trick. Borrowed money has to go somewhere and it goes into the economy. That's how Labour gives the illusion of growth, by boosting GDP on the back of borrowing.


True.

Report Whisperingdeath October 6, 2021 4:55 AM BST
And the illusion of growth claimed by Doris after spending £468 million on covids?

What is the state of current borrowing from this CONSERVATIVE Government?
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 6, 2021 9:00 AM BST
But tory governments have always borrowed more than labour ones. Isn't it around 75-25% in their favour. So Labour have actually borrowed far, far less and produced better economic growth off the back of it.


Still though, keep voting tory.
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 10:30 AM BST
How did Labour do that ?
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 6, 2021 11:17 AM BST
Less corruption?
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 11:34 AM BST
If that was true ( doubtful ) what are the examples of corrupt practices and institutions ( maybe in the city of London or elsewhere )that labour changed and which helped the economy etc
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 6, 2021 11:36 AM BST
Simply not being corrupt whilst in power?
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 11:38 AM BST
Examples of this would help - and how it impacted on the U.K. economy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 6, 2021 11:39 AM BST
Handcocks barman, et al
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 11:40 AM BST
Labours pfi contracts , was that corruption ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 6, 2021 11:42 AM BST
Have they been charged with corruption?
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 11:43 AM BST
Have any tories ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 6, 2021 11:43 AM BST
Various, cough cough, planning
decisions changed within days
of donations to tory party.
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 11:45 AM BST
That may have benefited the economy
Report PorcupineorPineapple October 6, 2021 12:00 PM BST
But it didn't, that's the point. The tories have spent far, far more and actually seen far less growth. There may just simply also be poorer decisions made, more waste, crap projects completed that don't last very long. Agree though, there must be a reason why the tories are consistently so bad at this.
Report lfc1971 October 6, 2021 12:47 PM BST
Who says it didn’t help the economy Planning decisions changed to build houses eg
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 6, 2021 1:31 PM BST
Yeah build more houses
in big cities.

It's bound to make money

But having to pay baksheesh
rather suggests its wrong.
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