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glasshouses dogman
27 Sep 21 13:06
Date Joined: 06 Dec 03
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I'll mention 3 words - fire and rehire.

For some time this has been happening, even before covid struck. If a firm is in trouble, perhaps with a strong possibility of going bust then there can be justifiable reasons for trying to alter worker employment terms and conditions.

However, some companies in better financial positions have been employing this tactic. So how many workers have had pay reductions due to this tactic?

British Gas have used this. I know their share price has been falling over recent years but  was using this tactic on their gas fitters  a good idea? Some may have left and moved to another employer. At times I see a self-employed gas fitter. He is busy and has to turn a lot of potential work down. He says some of the fitters who were sacked are now working for themselves and offering their services at a much lower price than what British Gas would charge. He also said some who accepted the new terms and conditions may leave leave and work for themselves when things in the economy become more settled.

So how many workers who are working for profitable companies have seen their pay reduced?
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Report 1st time poster September 27, 2021 1:10 PM BST
we have an agency avoid paye working culture
any increases go straight to the agency its up to them how much of that gets passed on to workers
Report lfc1971 September 27, 2021 1:15 PM BST
If there is a shortage of workers they can’t fire and rehire
Report glasshouses dogman September 27, 2021 1:33 PM BST
There may seem to be a shortage of workers in some parts of the economy but this tactic is still being used. I think at present Weetabix may be trying to use this at a manufacturing plant in this country where we may soon see strike action by the workers. Other companies have also been trying to do this as well.

Out of interest has anybody on here been subject to this fire and rehire policy.
Report 1st time poster September 27, 2021 1:56 PM BST
hire and fire will be the main weapon in trying to make a success of uk,s 9 new freeports

our mate mayor houchen already got his eyes on p d ports teesside for example
Report macarony September 27, 2021 3:25 PM BST
Wages are going for those of us that do an essential job. Faffing around the place trying to look busy might not attract any wage increase. And let's not forget that these wage increases are starting at the lowest possible point namely the minimum wage
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! October 13, 2021 7:41 PM BST

Report peckerdunne October 13, 2021 7:54 PM BST
No choice, it's a socialist electorate.

Boris of course spending his money in The EU, rather than but British and holiday at home like he preaches to the plebs.

What a charlatan.
Report peckerdunne October 13, 2021 7:56 PM BST
1000 a week dying, ordinary folk struggling to survive the winter and Boris is on holidays.

If ever a fcuk you im alright.
Report shiny new shoes please October 14, 2021 8:04 PM BST
Youre Hired Laugh
Report glasshouses dogman October 22, 2021 6:39 PM BST
It seems fire and rehire bill has been discussed today. However, any chance of this bill becoming law has now gone due to blocking action by government ministers. It would seem the bill acknowledged there could be a need for this type of action if a company was in financial difficulties and that for procedures for this should be set in place.

I have seen that around 70% of companies using this tactic are profitable. In a number of cases it has been done by foreign owned companies. This includes some companies taken over by foreign corporate raiders. In many cases it just seems to be to squeeze the established pay and conditions of workers to up profits for shareholders.

Perhaps we should have some regulation on how it is being operated. Boris Johnson when asked about fire and rehire has admitted being critical about it. So have some other government ministers and MPs . So as you have blocked the bill being the government today then why not introduce a suitable bill yourselves?
Report politicspunter October 22, 2021 7:11 PM BST
BP and British Airways are two that spring to mind.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 22, 2021 7:15 PM BST
Weetabix are firing & rehiring UK workers costing workers up to £5,000 a year in lost wages

Its parent company a US Corporation ‘acquired’ Weetabix 4 yrs ago. It has an operating profit of $700m

We will fight this company with everything we have got to defend our workers

Wages up, lol, tories!

Vote circus, get clowns
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 22, 2021 7:16 PM BST
Weetabix are firing & rehiring UK workers costing workers up to £5,000 a year in lost wages

Its parent company a US Corporation ‘acquired’ Weetabix 4 yrs ago. It has an operating profit of $700m

We will fight this company with everything we have got to defend our workers

Twitter, unite union.
Report lapsy pa October 22, 2021 10:40 PM BST
When the public service gets a wage rise you know the claim 'wages are rising' is true, nothing in line for them but pay freezes and the whole(gov) spiel is the height of bolloxology.
Report flat16 October 23, 2021 6:30 AM BST
Construction sector 6%+  ,agricultural workers and drivers......that's approaching 10% ,all substantial increases.
All three groups who may live here ,buy here ,pay tax here and many others ,suppressed by a unlimited labour pool for 30+ years ,who sole aim in life was to get to western union Friday afternoon.
BTW before the boring "wacist" chant ,I do not blame them for that ,did in myself in the 80s ,continuous governments have created the economic circumstances for this and FOM.
Report Timber October 23, 2021 6:48 AM BST

Oct 23, 2021 -- 12:30AM, flat16 wrote:

Construction sector 6%+

Report Timber October 23, 2021 6:48 AM BST
It's a complete fallacy that immigrants are a net benefit to our country
They benefit the companies they work for and that's it
All the wages are shipped overseas and they burden our services
Report irishone October 23, 2021 7:12 AM BST
Not sure you are right there pal
The states is a migrant economy
And they are well ahead of the UK
Difference is
Plenty of room over there
UK overcrowded
Report Timber October 23, 2021 7:42 AM BST
America is virtually 50 different countries
Private medicine
Has the reserve currency & is spiraling out of control
They are very close to a complete collapse

I didn't say it was a terrible thing, just that for the average person, mass immigration has not improved people's lives
Report Timber October 23, 2021 7:46 AM BST
Strange to hear Jack Dorsey say

"Hyperinflation is going to change everything. It’s happening."

Stock up with 2 years food and enough bleach to clean 2 years worth of water (2 drops per litre is suffice)
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