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Report Giuseppe September 16, 2021 1:15 PM BST
it's not a horse drug
Report politicspunter September 16, 2021 1:42 PM BST

Sep 16, 2021 -- 5:28AM, timbuctooth wrote:


Prevents and cures the virus, it won the Nobel for its wonder-drug effect in many human conditions, and it`s good for horses? Wow, best get some now!


It doesn't prevent or cure Covid. You are wrong to come on this forum spreading dangerous misinformation.

Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 2:17 PM BST
Thanks for the link PP.
RA always puts up a balanced argument , but nothing positive to say about this as a covid treatment.
Report frog1000 September 16, 2021 2:34 PM BST
Theory is because the human form of the drug is so cheap the big pharma/media rubbishing it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 16, 2021 2:46 PM BST
It's bizarre, with no proven benefits
and numerous side effects that the kool aid
brigade line up to back another
drug.

Still, its likely better than
injecting bleach. ( just a guess
as can't find a study to prove
it's safer than injecting bleach)
Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 2:55 PM BST
You are dangerous Tim - you could end up killing someone - the exact same study referred to by you and Dr John Campbell has subsequently been rubbished many times and a pack of lies.

What is your agenda here ?
Report timbuctooth September 16, 2021 3:00 PM BST
100+ studies, averaging out at 62% fewer deaths and 86% fewer transmissions, rubbished? By whom? Do they have evidence, or are they just shouting loudly, like wiki?
Report Giuseppe September 16, 2021 3:02 PM BST
ivermectin is safe for humans, it is approved for use, just not as a covid treatment

people just need to take the right dose
Report frog1000 September 16, 2021 3:02 PM BST

Sep 16, 2021 -- 8:55AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


You are dangerous Tim - you could end up killing someone - the exact same study referred to by you and Dr John Campbell has subsequently been rubbished many times and a pack of lies.What is your agenda here ?


Where?

Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 3:04 PM BST
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-iverme...
Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 3:04 PM BST
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jun/30/what-know-about-pro-ivermecti...
Report frog1000 September 16, 2021 3:06 PM BST
Guardian is neither a doctor or scientist and the link does not work.
Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 3:09 PM BST
Google American Journal of Therapeutics ivermectin

..and look past the usual suspects pushing their own agenda...
Report politicspunter September 16, 2021 3:09 PM BST
Johnny, when you copy and paste, paste, enter, then skip a line and add a dot in second line such as in the opening post.
Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 3:11 PM BST
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

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Report frog1000 September 16, 2021 3:11 PM BST

Sep 16, 2021 -- 9:09AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


Google American Journal of Therapeutics ivermectin..and look past the usual suspects pushing their own agenda...


What agenda do you think Dr John Campbell is pushing?

Report Johnny The Guesser September 16, 2021 3:14 PM BST
The report on which he was commenting on was subsequently found to be false and withdrawn. He should have removed the video.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 16, 2021 3:17 PM BST
Why do all the anti vaxxers
who were plugging hydroxychloroquine
now gulp down apple flavor
horse wormer?
Report politicspunter September 16, 2021 3:19 PM BST

Sep 16, 2021 -- 9:17AM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Why do all the anti vaxxerswho were plugging hydroxychloroquine now gulp down apple flavorhorse wormer?


And why did they all bet on Trump to win the 2020 Presidential Election?

Report frog1000 September 16, 2021 3:20 PM BST

Sep 16, 2021 -- 9:14AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


The report on which he was commenting on was subsequently found to be false and withdrawn. He should have removed the video.


Are you are a doctor?

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 16, 2021 3:25 PM BST
After he had already lost the vote
and the states had certified the results?


I think they find things on
YouTube, they like posting
it on here.


Time was you had one nutter
walking the streets, quoting
the bible and then telling
us to repent as the end of
the world is nigh.

Internet let's them do it from
home, quoting YouTube profits.
Report timbuctooth September 16, 2021 3:26 PM BST
Hydroxy`s got a fantastic record for treating this virus, it`s just that Ivermectin`s even better. In fact, combining the two, seems to have a `gain of function` effect!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 16, 2021 3:28 PM BST
Is ivermectin any good for
cleaning computer screens?
Report frog1000 October 10, 2021 11:05 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy7c_FHiEac

Dr John Campbell (pro vaccine, pro treatments, open minded) destroys the BBC 'reality check' here.

The sheep just believe the BBC joournos over the medics.
Report politicspunter October 10, 2021 11:07 PM BST
Watch the video! (again) Sad
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 10, 2021 11:14 PM BST
Does ivermectin cure brexit?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:43 AM BST
All the transhumanoids are seething they have been jabbed with experimental gene therapy that doesn't work

Meanwhile...
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https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-ivermectin-miracle-indias-240m-populated-largest-state-uttar-pradesh-horowitz/
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:44 AM BST
#PUREBLOOD
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:46 AM BST
OH DEAR!

https://twitter.com/dontbetyet/status/1447455995807027200?s=20
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:48 AM BST
Don't forget your face panties

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1447240292277628940?s=20
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:49 AM BST
https://twitter.com/MeetKarma45/status/1446821380519956480?s=20

Some intelligent doctors are still prescribing it for ccp virus
Report Timber October 11, 2021 8:53 AM BST
Why do the double jabbed Nazis on here care anyway??

They want unvaccinated people DEAD
Report Johnny The Guesser October 11, 2021 9:10 AM BST
Why do the unvaccinated feel the need to constantly discredit the vaccines ?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 9:15 AM BST
They aren't vaccines

vaccine
/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases
Report Timber October 11, 2021 9:19 AM BST
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Report politicspunter October 11, 2021 9:41 AM BST
I have no issues with persons that choose not to have the vaccine, that's their choice. However, they have to accept that they will be excluded from multiple situations such as work, social and sporting events if they are unvaccinated.
Report casemoney October 11, 2021 12:11 PM BST
6 masks a hood and blinkers  ,is the way forward .
Report edy October 11, 2021 12:23 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 3:19AM, Timber wrote:


It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.


Were you fooled when you kept believing the election result would be overturned in November, in January, in March, in August etc.?

Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 3:23 PM BST
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Why do the unvaccinated feel the need to constantly discredit the vaccines ?

To save their lives. Even though they`re doing their damnedest to kill off the rest of us!
Report Corky October 11, 2021 3:26 PM BST
What the hell does Ron Atkinson know about horses ?
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:32 PM BST
It is rather weird that the people who still believe Trump won are the ones who support the use of unproven drugs and disbelieve the proven evidence of vaccination. They must be sheeples.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:39 PM BST
IVERMECTIN approval date - 10/08/1998

CCP Vaccinations - STILL NOT APPROVED

Is there a bigger simpleton than Charlie?
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:41 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:39AM, Timber wrote:


IVERMECTIN approval date - 10/08/1998CCP Vaccinations - STILL NOT APPROVEDIs there a bigger simpleton than Charlie?


And it was approved for?

Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:42 PM BST
HUMANS, it's not nano technology you imbecile
Report edy October 11, 2021 3:43 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:39AM, Timber wrote:


IVERMECTIN approval date - 10/08/1998CCP Vaccinations - STILL NOT APPROVEDIs there a bigger simpleton than Charlie?


....I feel like you opened a thread about Comirnaty having gained approval in the US.

Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:43 PM BST
It was safe for humans in 1998 and still is

DO you understand that drugs can work for more than one thing?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:43 PM BST
FDA approved Comirnaty vaxx, not BioNTech. Although they are the same formula they are legally and distinctly different.

Get sick from the Comirnaty.... you can sue.

Get sick from the BioNTech... you can’t.

Comirnaty is not available in the US.

You have been lied to.
Report edy October 11, 2021 3:44 PM BST
So the vaccine has been fully approved then?
Report edy October 11, 2021 3:45 PM BST
In the US that is, in addition to the full EU approval.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:45 PM BST
Standard bait and switch

Wonder why
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:46 PM BST
Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

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Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:46 PM BST
Trials don't finish for several more years either
Report edy October 11, 2021 3:48 PM BST
I wonder why you have to resort to making things up about the vaccines. Also, you never answered: "Were you fooled when you kept believing the election result would be overturned in November, in January, in March, in August etc.?"
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:48 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:46AM, Charlie wrote:


Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-us...


LaughLaughLaugh The FDA

Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:48 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:48AM, edy wrote:


I wonder why you have to resort to making things up about the vaccines. Also, you never answered: "Were you fooled when you kept believing the election result would be overturned in November, in January, in March, in August etc.?"


I wonder why you can't explain why they did a bait and switch?

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:49 PM BST
As you mentioned India:

Coronavirus: Why and how Ivermectin became a fake COVID cure, and continues to draw attention

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-why-and-how-ivermectin-became-a-fake-covid-cure-and-continues-to-draw-attention/photostory/86870482.cms


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Report edy October 11, 2021 3:49 PM BST
Go ahead and explain the bait and switch in detail, along with proof and fact checking, and I might offer possible explanations I see.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:50 PM BST
All SEETHING because you've been jabbed with experimental gene therapy that doesn't workLaugh
Report edy October 11, 2021 3:50 PM BST
That is, after you answered if you feel you were fooled when people kept infusing your head with the believe that the election would be overturned time after time.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:51 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:49AM, Charlie wrote:


As you mentioned India:Coronavirus: Why and how Ivermectin became a fake COVID cure, and continues to draw attentionhttps://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-why-and-how-ivermectin-became-a-fake-covid-cure-and-continues-to-draw-attention/photostory/86870482.cms.


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https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-ivermectin-miracle-indias-240m-populated-largest-state-uttar-pradesh-horowitz/

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:51 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:50AM, Timber wrote:


All SEETHING because you've been jabbed with experimental gene therapy that doesn't work


The only person I can seething and insulting people is you.

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:52 PM BST
Not the well respected newsrescue site. Who?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:52 PM BST
Why do you care what people take, it's bizarre

As if you give a **** about anybody else anyway
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:53 PM BST
Still seething and insulting.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:53 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:52AM, Charlie wrote:


Not the well respected newsrescue site. Who?


Just look at the numbers

UP vs. NIH/CDC

UP, 241 million, IVM to all + cases, household contacts, all health workers.
9/20: prior 2.5 MILLION tests, 201 +
rate=.007%, 24 DEATHS

USA,329 million, early Rx -monoclonals?
10/4, prior 38 MILLION tests, 2.6 MILLION +
rate=6.9%, 55,000 DEATHS

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:55 PM BST
Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809


But you still have the well respected newsrescue.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:55 PM BST
You can't answer the question

Why do you care if people take a safe drug like Ivermectin?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:55 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 9:55AM, Charlie wrote:


Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drughttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809But you still have the well respected newsrescue.


BBC LMFAO

Report edy October 11, 2021 3:57 PM BST
Does Charlie care more about people taking Ivermectin than you (and timbuctooth) care about getting vaccinated? With you, and even more so timbuctooth, constantly making things up about the vaccines, I feel like you guys are more desperate in your cause.
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 3:57 PM BST
Why do you care if people take a safe drug like Ivermectin?

Apart from the obious it ain't safe, it prevents people from getting vaccinated and spreads hope where there is none, there are probably a few more reasons.
Report Timber October 11, 2021 3:58 PM BST
You two are insane, I'll leave you both to wallow in craziness
Report edy October 11, 2021 4:01 PM BST
Looking forward to you not making things up about the vaccines anymore.
Report politicspunter October 11, 2021 4:02 PM BST
It is a bit mad that all the folks who backed Trump both before and after the election, because they didn't believe opinion polls/official results, are now anti vaxxers who believe Ivermectin is a cure for Covid.
Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 4:06 PM BST
The vexed vaxed, those against The Don, are the very same people behind slavery, the KKK, eugenics, abortion and the deaths of tens of millions in leftie political purges. They are the people and ideology of Death. `Weird`?  Or downright evil? Never forget that taking the year joe was elected, 2020, and dividing it by the mark of the beast, 666, gives you joe`s clue-ridden, deliberately-chosen text number, 30330. They elected satan! Evil walks the planet and is currently killing off humanity from the White House.
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 4:09 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 10:06AM, timbuctooth wrote:


The vexed vaxed, those against The Don, are the very same people behind slavery, the KKK, eugenics, abortion and the deaths of tens of millions in leftie political purges. They are the people and ideology of Death. `Weird`?

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 4:09 PM BST
What a moronic, gibberish post.
Report edy October 11, 2021 4:24 PM BST
Never forget that taking the year joe was elected, 2020, and dividing it by the mark of the beast, 666, gives you joe`s clue-ridden, deliberately-chosen text number, 30330.

2020 divided by 666 = 30330?

Showing off your mad division skills again, eh? I think there is some debate to be had about 666 really being the mark of the beast.  There are some suggestions it's actually 616.
Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 4:27 PM BST
`Why would people take unproven horse de-wormers, rather than follow the science, take the proven vaccines?`

2015 Noble winner for it`s use in humans, Ivermectin, is on the WHO`s `Essential Medicines` list. For it`s use in humans.

`Aaah, but that wasn`t for the chinese virus, so why take unproven de-wormers?`
Well, Ivermectin was being used to both prevent and treat this virus long before any vaxes were, it`s Ivermectin that has the longer record, and its decades-long fantastic safety record means none of the depopulating effects that joe, fauci, bill, george and klaus have in store for the vaxed
Report edy October 11, 2021 4:29 PM BST
What's wrong with some good depopulation?
Report politicspunter October 11, 2021 4:31 PM BST
Ivermectin has been used in humans, for treating parasites, but not for treating Covid.
Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 4:44 PM BST
Ivermectin use for preventing this chinese virus? 18 months. vaxes? 12 months
Ivermectin use for curing this chinese virus? 18 months. vaxes? Not one day
Ivermectin deaths after taking it? None. vaxes? Untold thousands, soon millions
Ivermectin`s safety record? Decades. vaxes? Not a day
Ivermectin`s `long` effects? None. vaxes? Goodbye humanity!
Report edy October 11, 2021 4:45 PM BST
When will the vaccine long-term effects have caused us all to die?
Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 4:46 PM BST
Oops, that last line should read;

Ivermectin`s `long` effects? Goodbye virus. vaxes? Goodbye humanity!
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 4:48 PM BST
2015 Noble winner for it`s use in humans, Ivermectin, is on the WHO`s `Essential Medicines`

It's for using on parasites not for treating covid. Why can't you understand that?
Report Timber October 11, 2021 4:53 PM BST
For the smoothbrains:

Ivermectin stops the virus going into the nucleus of the cell

There is a lot of medicine that can treat more than one ailment
Report edy October 11, 2021 4:54 PM BST
Thought you stopped caring and wanted to leave us insane folks to wallow in craziness, Timber?
Report timbuctooth October 11, 2021 5:07 PM BST
Aspirin was patented for remission of fever and joint inflammation. So when its blood-thinning properties were stumbled upon, leading to millions of saved lives, those people shouldn`t have taken it, `IT`S NOT MEANT FOR THAT!!!`?  Righty ho!
Report politicspunter October 11, 2021 5:16 PM BST
I fail to see why you can't understand that Ivermectin is for treating parasites in humans but not for treating Covid. Sad
Report Charlie October 11, 2021 6:12 PM BST

Oct 11, 2021 -- 11:07AM, timbuctooth wrote:


Aspirin was patented for remission of fever and joint inflammation. So when its blood-thinning properties were stumbled upon, leading to millions of saved lives, those people shouldn`t have taken it, `IT`S NOT MEANT FOR THAT!!!`?

Report Charlie October 11, 2021 6:14 PM BST
ffs
I can believe this:
Aspirin was patented for remission of fever and joint inflammation. So when its blood-thinning properties were stumbled upon, leading to millions of saved lives, those people shouldn`t have taken it

But as for this:
Ivermectin is a medication used to treat parasite infestations.[6][7] In humans, these include head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.[6][8][9][10] In veterinary medicine, the medication is used to prevent and treat heartworm and acariasis, among other indications.[9] Ivermectin works through many mechanisms of action that result in the death of the targeted parasites;[6] it can be taken by mouth or applied to the skin for external infestations.[6][11] The drug belongs to the avermectin family of medications.[6]

I'd rather you take it than me.
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