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SirNorbertClarke
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Things are almost back to normal as we have learned to live with this virus.

Was it just a soundbite for the TV news?

Dear, dear.

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By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Sep 21 16:34
Labour take the lead in polls. Boris has chucked a 26 point lead in eighteen months.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 21 16:38
Yes but even a deluded tit like yourself won't back them at 7.6 to win the next election Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Sep 21 16:39
Good point Nobby

I thought the same too but the weather has been sheite! Might sound a little flippant but students of history will know the importance of a long hot summer to dissent, protest and riot!
By:
frog1000
When: 14 Sep 21 16:40
Its the summer.

No where in Europe has there been a issue.

It is the winter that could be chaos.

185 deaths just announced. Got that data out after the early press conference.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 21 16:43
Someone posted some figures on another thread and very nearly 80% of those dying in the UK are vaccinated.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 14 Sep 21 16:54
Sir Keir did say the government were acting too soon in lifting the restrictions. And he did predict disaster would follow.

Now he's got egg all over his face.

It's easy to see why he prefers sitting on the fence. But give the guy a break - he's doing his best.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Sep 21 16:57
Unfortunately for us Doris and his ministers best is not good enough and they will eventually pay the price although they will be comforted by the back handers they get from those who have profited at our expense!
By:
Escapee
When: 14 Sep 21 17:05
Nobby, what data?

ONS data says this

Vaccination status Deaths involving COVID-19 Non-COVID-19 deaths Percent of all deaths
All deaths regardless of vaccination status 51,281 214,701 19.3
Unvaccinated 38,964 65,170 37.4
Deaths within 21 days of first dose 4,388 14,265 23.5
Deaths 21 days or more after first dose 7,289 66,533 9.9
Deaths within 21 days of second dose 182 11,470 1.6
Deaths 21 days or more after second dose 458 57,263 0.8


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By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Sep 21 17:06
Boris has thrown away a 26 point led in the polls in eighteen months. Some of the main reasons are his inability to chop a holidaymaking Foreign Secretary at a time of deep crisis, failing to chop a bullying Home Secretary who has been caught bullying at multiple government departments, failing to chop a Health Secretary who was getting it on with a staff member despite of guidelines and restrictions and failing to chop an unelected personal advisor who claimed he was having an eye test. All these and more failures, such as Jenrick and Williamson add up over time.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 21 17:10
Deaths involving COVID, 51,281
Number of those deaths un-vaccinated, 38,964

That's 75.98%
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Sep 21 17:10
Well done Sir Keir Starmer

great opposition has forced a decent
summer whilst tories fall apart
u turning all the way.
By:
frog1000
When: 14 Sep 21 17:12

Sep 14, 2021 -- 11:05AM, Escapee wrote:


Nobby, what data?  ONS data says this


Vaccination status
Deaths involving COVID-19
Non-COVID-19 deaths
Percent of all deaths


All deaths regardless of vaccination status
51,281
214,701
19.3


Unvaccinated
38,964
65,170
37.4


Deaths within 21 days of first dose
4,388
14,265
23.5


Deaths 21 days or more after first dose
7,289
66,533
9.9


Deaths within 21 days of second dose
182
11,470
1.6


Deaths 21 days or more after second dose
458
57,263
0.8

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What percentage of people were double vaccinated at each of those deaths?

There were 48,000 deaths in Jan and Feb (when virtually no one was double vaxxed) and have been a further 5,000 until mid-July as more and more people were slowly getting two jabs.

Give us the number for August only please.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Sep 21 17:12
Nobby doesn't know difference between
vaccinated and un vaccinated

Bless.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 21 17:13
So politicspunter why aren't you backing Labour to win the next election @ a massive 7.6?

The truth is you know full well all governments suffer in mid-term polls and Keir 'Spineless' Starmer doesn't stand a cat in hell's chance of winning the next election.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Sep 21 17:14
Labour don't need win next election
for Starmer to become pm.

Labour most seats is 3.3 on hear.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Sep 21 17:17
Labour will only be interested in stopping the tories getting a majority. If that happens, strong chance Starmer will be PM.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Sep 21 17:26
lol
By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Sep 21 17:28
who will they go into coalition with? the SNP?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 14 Sep 21 17:54
The best time to kick something off is the winter not summer

People think summer is best but they would expect that, they wouldn't expect any chaos in winter because its cold and they think we're weak and wouldn't go out because of the cold
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 14 Sep 21 18:02
I get the feeling nobby's got a doll at home with Jurgen Klopp's face on it that he stabs repeatedly before bed. Except now he's replaced the mask with one of Starmer. Poor lad is absolutely driven by obsession.
By:
Foinavon
When: 14 Sep 21 18:06
Starmer's a bit of a plodder and not very astute. Can't see him appealing to the electorate if he's still there when the time comes.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Sep 21 18:35
Yes, you could be right but sometimes a plodder might appeal more than someone considered extreme. John Major here and Biden in the states spring to mind.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Sep 21 18:45
That ONS data is a complete sham. Astonishing manipulation, there is nobody above this now.
By:
A_T
When: 14 Sep 21 18:47
but but but Starmer!
By:
A_T
When: 14 Sep 21 18:48
Astonishing manipulation

in what way is it manipulated?
By:
Foinavon
When: 14 Sep 21 18:56
A good comparison pp, Starmer sometimes looks as blank as Biden and as for Major, Jesus H.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Sep 21 19:01
I believe that the data is 6 months to June. Up until halfway, end of March, only 3,519,105 had 2 jabs. Add on 21 days takes you to nearly 4 months. Obviously deaths 21 days after the second jab will be low. On the 1st May the 7 day average for admissions was 83, with 1071 people in hospital with covid. In the middle of January it was 34K with nobody double jabbed. By definition you'll have the majority of people who died with covid unvaccinated, it couldn't be anything else as most people were dying as reported with covid before the vaccination rollout started.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Sep 21 19:02
So they are taking figures for people dying after 21 days with 2 jabs when hardly anybody at all was dying with covid. Unbelievable. Well, not really.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 14 Sep 21 19:21
I never trust figures, and medical people are the worst at using them to mislead.

They make estate agents look honest.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Sep 21 19:30
The ONS are meant to be above that shyte.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 14 Sep 21 19:57
John Major had his soap box and he was a true man of the people.

Sir Keir comes from leafy Surrey and had violin lessons. His mum may have been a nurse but she also had a paddock to keep her donkeys in. That ain't working class is it.

Labour would be better off dumping Starmer and promoting Rayner. At least she is a socialist and has a spine.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Sep 21 20:05
: Dr Crippen's blog
I never trust figures, and medical people are the worst at using them to mislead.


Well stayed doctor crippens
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 14 Sep 21 20:57
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/official-immigration-figures-are-known-be-inaccurate-so-what-about-rest-our-national-statistics-a7030116.html
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Sep 21 22:53
If Starmer gets any more splinters in his rsole he will be unable to sit in the commons .
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