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The NHS may be unable to cope this winter because of a “frightening” shortfall of more than 50,000 doctors, the head of the British Medical Association has warned.

The number of medics in England has fallen further behind comparable European countries over the summer, ahead of what is predicted to be one of the worst winters in the 73-year history of the health service, Dr Chaand Nagpaul said.

“Winter is an incredibly difficult time for the health service,” he said. “With flu season on the horizon and even fewer staff this time round, it’s a total unknown as to how well our services will cope – if they even cope at all.”

England has a much lower doctor to population ratio than comparable EU countries, with just 2.8 doctors per 1,000 people, in comparison with an EU average of 3.7, according to the BMA. Its research in July said that meeting this average would mean scaling up by 31% – or an additional 49,162 full-time equivalent (FTE) doctors.

With more GPs and hospital doctors quitting over the summer, the shortage has risen to 50,191, according to the BMA. This reflects a loss of 919 doctors in primary care and 110 in secondary care over the last two months.

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By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Sep 21 21:02
50,000 visas for Indian doctors and their families ASAP please
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Sep 21 21:04
does anyone work in the health sector?

why are UK and Irish hospitals full on Indians and Fillipinos but not eastern europeans?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Sep 21 21:04
full of
By:
saddo
When: 13 Sep 21 21:08
donny, has anyone asked him why the BMA asked the Gov for less trainee doctor places in 2008 and 2012?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 Sep 21 21:12
No idea, have they?

Tories were in opposition in 2008
so that MUST be their fault.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 13 Sep 21 21:16
Whenever the BMA say anything you have to remember they are a Left leaning trade union. Think Bob Crow in scrubs.
By:
saddo
When: 13 Sep 21 21:29
Job and wage protection at the time I expect donny, but they shouldn't be moaning without taking responsibility for their part in the current shortage.
By:
saddo
When: 13 Sep 21 21:29
Job and wage protection at the time I expect donny, but they shouldn't be moaning without taking responsibility for their part in the current shortage.
By:
saddo
When: 13 Sep 21 21:29
sorry
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 Sep 21 21:47
Dunno, will the government listen to them and
find 50k extra doctors.

Did they listen to them in the past, if that
was what they asked for.

Do unions run the country.

We all seem to agree that there are
not enough doctors working in uk.
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Sep 21 21:51
Perhaps we could scrap that obscene waste of money that is our nuclear arsenal and pay for a world class health service instead?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 Sep 21 21:59
That money seems to be spent.

I think the next time it's up
for renewal then they should look
at its cost to benefit.

Where does the cash go?

Surely there are cheaper suppliers
if we can't build our own?
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 13 Sep 21 22:01
I agree we should scarp Trident but there would be many calls on the money saved.

When you say world class health service which comparable country's health service do you think we should aspire too?
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Sep 21 22:08

Sep 13, 2021 -- 3:59PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


That money seems to be spent.I think the next time it's upfor renewal then they should lookat its cost to benefit. Where does the cash go?Surely there are cheaper suppliersif we can't build our own?


Astra fireworks do a nice line in rockets.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Sep 21 22:18
They're after more money again.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 Sep 21 22:21
If we ain't gonna use a nuclear
option as a strike weapon then
we may as well not have it.

Firing it when we have lost is
frankly pointless.

MAD

Mutually assured destruction
ain't worth the cash, imo.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Sep 21 20:26
"Astra fireworks do a nice line in rockets."

Bidens shed is full of them ,they are all they will let him near .
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 15 Sep 21 21:02
I thought doctors were only interested in needless jabbing for cash ?

If so isn't it better that we are 50,000 short ?
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Sep 21 21:11
Need to drop this crazy idea that all medics have to be vaccinated or this will be a drop in the ocean of the problem.

We need to trust the opinions of healthcare workers over the likes of Boris, Javid, Macron and Biden or face a horrific winter of staff shortages across the western healthcare systems.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 15 Sep 21 21:13
"Firing it when we have lost is
frankly pointless.

MAD"

this is really basic stuff

the idea of MAD is that stops others attacking you in the first place
By:
nineteen points
When: 15 Sep 21 21:33
It seems a strange way to go but after 10 years of austerity,cutting the nhs to the bone,running it into the ground,they now blackmail us with our freedom,liberty,with a bogus virus,into paying more taxes to pull us out of the sh1t the put us in and at the same time skimming off out of the fat contracts they gave to friends and family.

Way to go boris

Sad thing is all the supposed boris haters follow his every word about Convid.Confused
By:
macarony
When: 15 Sep 21 22:16
Pity the NHS didn't train doctors in local areas after all its people in your local area that fund the NHS not someone from the other side of the world
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 16 Sep 21 04:12
Shortfall of 50,000 doctors may overwhelm NHS in winter, BMA warns

Change headline to say the NHS cant cope from 2009 -2019 plenty of red top front pages
By:
Giuseppe
When: 16 Sep 21 04:17
bring in 50,000 indian doctors

protect the NHS

save lives
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