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frog1000
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wonderful-loving-mum-died-complications-24963751

A 'wonderful and loving' mum-of-two died from complications of the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine, a coroner has ruled.

Healthy Alpa Tailor, 35, fell ill just over a week after getting her first dose in March this year.

St Pancras Coroner’s Court heard Alpa was complaining of a headache and a day later experienced paralysis on the left side of her body.

Speaking after the inquest, her family said she took the vaccine to “protect her family” and are warning others to seek medical advice if they start to feel ill after their vaccine - including a new headache.

Her husband Anish said: “The death of our beloved Alpa has left a huge void in our hearts and our lives, we will all truly miss her unconditional love. Alpa was a wonderful wife, loving mother, amazing daughter, sister and friend.

A relative said “She always had a smile on her face, enthusiastic and very creative.

“Hundreds of hearts have been touched in her 35 years of life. Her laugh is something none of her friends and family can ever forget.

Anytime you see a photo of her smiling, you can hear her laughter in your head.

“She was loving, caring, and always put the needs of her children before hers. Her two kids, aged six and 22 months, were her pride and joy.

“She would want nothing but protection and love for them and has created amazing memories that they have to look back at when they are older.

“They will never forget their mummy, as her oldest knows mummy's the brightest star in the sky, and she's always there.”

The inquest heard paramedics rushed Alpa to the National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery on April 8 as she was showing all the symptoms of a stroke, including slurred speech and a facial droop.

Doctors carried out blood tests and quickly diagnosed her with a new syndrome called vaccine-induced immune thrombocytopenia and thrombosis (VITT).

It affects one in 50,000 people under the age of 50 who have had the first dose of AstraZeneca, the inquest heard.

Professor Marie Scully, a consultant haematologist at University College London Hospitals, said at the time of Alpa’s admission around 250 people had been diagnosed with VITT in the UK and around 50 had died.

Alpa had surgery that afternoon to relieve pressure on her brain and doctors initially thought she was responding well to treatment.

However by April 22, intensive care doctors noticed a change in brain function and carried out a CT scan to find massive brain hemorrhaging.

A post-mortem found Alpa had multiple brain clots.

Jonathan Hyam, the neurosurgeon at UCLH who performed Alpa’s surgery said: “This condition was a relentless wave of clots in multiple areas.

“A week or so after the surgery I was actually quite optimistic, I thought we had got her through a real nasty condition and I was really surprised when I found out about the tragic demise approximately two weeks afterwards.”


Professor Scully told the inquest: “Nobody could have considered diagnosing a brand new syndrome at this stage. It's completely out of the blue.

"In April the number of people dying was very very few. Because of those statistics the UK has decided anyone under the age of 40 doesn't receive an Astra Zeneca vaccination - because the risk of dying from COVID is so low compared to the risk of dying from VITT which has a significant mortality."

Senior coroner Mary Hassell said: “Everything points in the same direction which is that Alpa had the AstraZeneca vaccination at a time when many many thousands of people in this country had died from coronavirus.

“And at the time when it was not known that there was a risk with one particular vaccine - the AstraZeneca vaccine - especially for younger patients.

“It’s very easy to look at this now and think if only she hadn’t if only a different decision had been made but she made the same decision that many millions of people in this country made.
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Report frog1000 September 13, 2021 6:27 PM BST
127 people under 40 with no pre-existing conditions have died in English Hospitals 'with Covid' in the last 18 months.

Be interesting to know how many have died due to the vaccines in the last 6-8 months.
Report frog1000 September 13, 2021 6:27 PM BST
127 people under 40 with no pre-existing conditions have died in English Hospitals 'with Covid' in the last 18 months.

Be interesting to know how many have died due to the vaccines in the last 6-8 months.
Report nineteen points September 13, 2021 6:28 PM BST
268
Report potlis September 13, 2021 8:04 PM BST
Sixteen Year Old Ernesto Ramirez, Jr. Deceased Five Days Post Pfizer Injection

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Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2021 9:41 PM BST
Awful..RIPSad
Report politicspunter September 13, 2021 9:44 PM BST

Sep 13, 2021 -- 12:27PM, frog1000 wrote:


127 people under 40 with no pre-existing conditions have died in English Hospitals 'with Covid' in the last 18 months.Be interesting to know how many have died due to the vaccines in the last 6-8 months.


https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021
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Here it is.

Report mecca September 13, 2021 9:47 PM BST
Not many comments on THIS thread......... I wonder why?
Report Johnny The Guesser September 13, 2021 9:53 PM BST
Thanks PP - Table 12 - If I understand it correctly , 4 death certificates mentioned covid vaccines in England ( none in Wales) over the period March 2020 to July 2021.
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 9:59 PM BST

Sep 13, 2021 -- 12:27PM, frog1000 wrote:


127 people under 40 with no pre-existing conditions have died in English Hospitals 'with Covid' in the last 18 months.Be interesting to know how many have died due to the vaccines in the last 6-8 months.


I can well believe these figures, infact surprised its as high as 127 but have you a link to the figures

Report SirNorbertClarke September 13, 2021 10:20 PM BST
About 6 people die every day in road traffic accidents. Let's get these things called cars, vans and lorries banned.
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:23 PM BST
30 thousand people plus die each year in the Uk due to air pollution related factors yet when a gas guzzling 4 by 4 is started up by someone who has a " protect the NHS " avatar on fb belching it's fumes out, no one bats an eyelid
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:29 PM BST
Vaccination status   
                             Deaths involving COVID-19    Non-COVID-19 deaths    Percent of all deaths
All deaths regardless of vaccination status    51,281              214,701    19.3
Unvaccinated                                     38,964               65,170    37.4
Deaths within 21 days of first dose             4,388               14,265    23.5
Deaths 21 days or more after first dose      7,289               66,533    9.9
Deaths within 21 days of second dose               182               11,470    1.6
Deaths 21 days or more after second dose           458               57,263    0.8


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Now would you looneys just STFU, get vaccinated, get back to normal, and stop attention seeking nonsense.

Pretty please.
Report Giuseppe September 13, 2021 10:30 PM BST
that's pretty hard to read

can you reformat it and post again please
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:35 PM BST
Nope, going to bed, tired.

So logically listening to the intelligentsia on here, somebody dies from vaccine complications - stop the vaccine?

FFS - no perfect solution. Suggest a better alternative.

Nighty night.
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:36 PM BST
its from politicspunter government link.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:36 PM BST
freely available
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:39 PM BST
looks like its from a primary school kids crayon book- no dates , no source , just gibberish
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:41 PM BST
Link is there - even you could find it, I hope - govt. stats.  Not hard to find..... if you are really interested in the facts.
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:43 PM BST
https://www.ons.gov.uk

hope that helps, as a source. Unless of course, some gammonhead or other on a betting site knows betterCry
Report Giuseppe September 13, 2021 10:43 PM BST
i thought you were going to bed?

you have time to post this but not to reformat?
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:45 PM BST
I'm trying to go to bed, typing here, on mobile  (family member wrecking my head) , watching end of something on tv. 

You re-format.  thx in advance.Happy
Report Giuseppe September 13, 2021 10:47 PM BST
i'll reformat it if you want but i'm not doing it for free
Report SirNorbertClarke September 13, 2021 10:48 PM BST
Wallflower good try but you can't argue with stupid
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:48 PM BST
Apparently from dates unspecified there were according to this out of just over 104,000 deaths of all causes of unvaccinated - 37 % of them dying of covid... so despite the number of under 40s as one age eg dying of covid fitting into a back garden of a typical house, 37% dropped dead of covid of all ages which is higher than cancer or heart disease. Hilarious anyone would believe that
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:50 PM BST
Your first link says " page unavailable " and the second is a generic link to the ONS
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:50 PM BST
Giuseppe 13 Sep 21 21:47 
i'll reformat it if you want but i'm not doing it for free

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I hear you're really loadedHappy. Like your style.

For real, nighty night. Wrecked
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2021 10:50 PM BST
ONS not a reliable source....says the Migration Observatory, they cant be trusted to print factual info.    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379939/Office-National-Statistics-...
Report Wallflower September 13, 2021 10:51 PM BST
Lets compare with Daily Mail statsLaughLaugh
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:53 PM BST
Put a proper link to the page you were viewing where those stats were posted wallflower on the ONS so we can read the terrifying stats- it shouldnt be hard unless you have made it up or more likely misinterpreted it
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:56 PM BST
Speaking of loving mums, RIP Mrs Johnsons mother
Report politicspunter September 13, 2021 10:56 PM BST
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021
.

Perfectly clear to me.
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:57 PM BST
or Mr Johnson even
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 10:58 PM BST
It says " page doesn't exist"
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2021 10:58 PM BST
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/official-immigration-figures-are-known-...
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2021 10:59 PM BST
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/official-immigration-figures-are-known-...
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2021 11:00 PM BST
Sorry for the 2 replies, some sort of delay...
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 11:00 PM BST
Pity this site is useless at links working with dots and christ knows what else needed
Report wolf3011 September 13, 2021 11:12 PM BST
I had to zoom out on this useless site to see it but basically the data refers to a period from january this year to July. The fact that most adults hadn't had the vaccine early this year and the fact that most deaths " of covid" were clearly in the unvaccinated which clearly constituted the vast majority of the population seems to have not been picked up by poor wallflower
Report shiny new shoes please September 14, 2021 12:00 AM BST
Sad similar to" Pandemrix, legal action
Report Johnny The Guesser September 14, 2021 7:03 AM BST
Vaccination status                             Deaths involving COVID-19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                All deaths regardless of vaccination status          51,281             
Unvaccinated                                                          38,964               
Deaths within 21 days of first dose                         4,388               
Deaths within 21 days of second dose                       182               
Deaths 21 days or more after second dose               458
Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 8:32 AM BST

Sep 13, 2021 -- 3:59PM, wolf3011 wrote:


Sep 13, 2021 -- 5:27PM, frog1000 wrote:127 people under 40 with no pre-existing conditions have died in English Hospitals 'with Covid' in the last 18 months.Be interesting to know how many have died due to the vaccines in the last 6-8 months.I can well believe these figures, infact surprised its as high as 127 but have you a link to the figures


Numbers are here but you have to download into a spreadsheet to work it all out

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
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Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 8:37 AM BST
Numbers on vaccine deaths until July when we can see above a death from someone who took the vaccine in March has only just been found to be linked does not mean much. The lag is massive.

The data for under 40s is 127 deaths within 28 days of testing positive for covid in English hospitals who did not have a pre-existing condition.

The only way this could be compared fairly would to get the number of under 40s who have died in English hospitals within 28 days of a Covid vaccine who did not have a pre-existing condition.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 14, 2021 8:37 AM BST
Well the numbers are in and the jabs clearly work.
Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 8:38 AM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 2:37AM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:


Well the numbers are in and the jabs clearly work.


Define 'work'?

Report Johnny The Guesser September 14, 2021 8:43 AM BST
Deaths involving covid            51,281

Unvaccinated                          38,964
Double jabbed                             458

Make your own mind up - define "works" for yourself.
Report politicspunter September 14, 2021 8:47 AM BST
Stats couldn't be any clearer.
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:01 AM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 2:43AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


Deaths involving covid

Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:07 AM BST
Christ you're thick

The numbers are from January to July this year. If the vast majority of the population are unvaccinated early this year( not double jabbed) and the vast majority of covid deaths are unvaccinated people what does that tell us? The answer you're looking for is fck all.
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:10 AM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 2:47AM, politicspunter wrote:


Stats couldn't be any clearer.


Crazy

Report eyeball September 14, 2021 9:17 AM BST
I have no reason to believe the statistics are wrong . The trouble is they are taken completely out of context . The vaccinated population increased over time from a base line of zero . Of course there were more people dying who were not vaccinated . The vaccination rates increased with time . It is more beneficial to look at the figures over the last few months  using the delta variant , as few , if any  are dying from Alpha and a high proportion of adults are vaccinated . These figures paint a totally different picture . The statistical analysis is extremely poor and misleading . I wouldn't expect that at GCSE level . The same "at risk" population are dying and the rates will increase as we hit the winter months .
Report lfc1971 September 14, 2021 9:22 AM BST
Even if we get through winter relatively well we can never be sure if it was due to vaccinations and not just something that would have occurred in any event
Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 9:26 AM BST
Anyone got an data from Israel before the 3rd jabs? Maybe that could help more than data from when hardly anyone was double jabbed.
Report politicspunter September 14, 2021 9:31 AM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 3:17AM, eyeball wrote:


I have no reason to believe the statistics are wrong . The trouble is they are taken completely out of context . The vaccinated population increased over time from a base line of zero . Of course there were more people dying who were not vaccinated . The vaccination rates increased with time . It is more beneficial to look at the figures over the last few months

Report politicspunter September 14, 2021 9:38 AM BST
eyeball • September 14, 2021 9:17 AM BST
I have no reason to believe the statistics are wrong . The trouble is they are taken completely out of context . The vaccinated population increased over time from a base line of zero . Of course there were more people dying who were not vaccinated . The vaccination rates increased with time . It is more beneficial to look at the figures over the last few months  using the delta variant , as few , if any  are dying from Alpha and a high proportion of adults are vaccinated . These figures paint a totally different picture . The statistical analysis is extremely poor and misleading . I wouldn't expect that at GCSE level . The same "at risk" population are dying and the rates will increase as we hit the winter months .

Are you aware how many UK adults were vaccinated by 2nd July?
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:43 AM BST
Can you imagine even at primary school level if 3 students submitted their research on vaccine efficacy showing a table that most covid deaths were unvaccinated when drum roll.. the vast majority of the population were unvaccinated  and at the end a little squiggle said " the data is in they work". The teacher would burst into laughter for a good ten minutes and after composing himself subsequently request special needs education so they could catch up to the rest of the year... it's hard not to laugh
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:44 AM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 3:38AM, politicspunter wrote:


eyeball • September 14, 2021 9:17 AM BSTI have no reason to believe the statistics are wrong . The trouble is they are taken completely out of context . The vaccinated population increased over time from a base line of zero . Of course there were more people dying who were not vaccinated . The vaccination rates increased with time . It is more beneficial to look at the figures over the last few months

Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:44 AM BST
The table shows deaths starting from January this year when the percentage of fully vaccinated people was tiny, are you just incredibly stupid?
Report eyeball September 14, 2021 9:49 AM BST
It's like trying to teach a slug how to peel an orange .
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:50 AM BST
Laugh
Report politicspunter September 14, 2021 9:51 AM BST
eyeball,

Are you aware how many UK adults were vaccinated by 2nd July?
Report lfc1971 September 14, 2021 9:52 AM BST
never heard that phrase before very good Grin
Report wolf3011 September 14, 2021 9:54 AM BST
PPs classes are being booked at the weekend as well by the teacher
Report Johnny The Guesser September 14, 2021 1:16 PM BST
I gave you the numbers Wolfie and told you to "freethink" for yourself.

But yet again you can't seem to read the words posted - try clearing the bias from your mind and "freereading".
Report Escapee September 14, 2021 4:08 PM BST
Just trying toi format the data @wallflower  posted

Vaccination status          Deaths involving COVID-19    Non-COVID-19 deaths    Percent of all deaths
All deaths regardless of vaccination status    51,281              214,701    19.3
Unvaccinated                                     38,964               65,170    37.4
Deaths within 21 days of first dose              4,388               14,265    23.5
Deaths 21 days or more after first dose       7,289                66,533    9.9
Deaths within 21 days of second dose                182               11,470    1.6
Deaths 21 days or more after second dose           458               57,263    0.8
Report Giuseppe September 14, 2021 4:13 PM BST
thanks mate but the spacing is still a little off
Report Escapee September 14, 2021 4:17 PM BST
Try again

Vaccination status Deaths involving COVID-19 Non-COVID-19 deaths Percent of all deaths
All deaths regardless of vaccination status 51,281 214,701 19.3
Unvaccinated 38,964 65,170 37.4
Deaths within 21 days of first dose 4,388 14,265 23.5
Deaths 21 days or more after first dose 7,289 66,533 9.9
Deaths within 21 days of second dose 182 11,470 1.6
Deaths 21 days or more after second dose 458 57,263 0.8


Shocked
Report Escapee September 14, 2021 4:19 PM BST
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Report DancingBraveTheBest September 14, 2021 4:20 PM BST
Why is the ONS claiming just 1% of covid deaths are in the vaccinated when PHE data shows the figure for August at 70%.   Something very sinister going on here.
Report Giuseppe September 14, 2021 4:22 PM BST
better

thanks
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 14, 2021 4:41 PM BST
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/official-immigration-figures-are-known-...
Report Escapee September 14, 2021 4:56 PM BST
There are:  Lies, Daamn Lies, and Statistics.
Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 5:20 PM BST

Sep 14, 2021 -- 10:20AM, DancingBraveTheBest wrote:


Why is the ONS claiming just 1% of covid deaths are in the vaccinated when PHE data shows the figure for August at 70%.

Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 5:20 PM BST
There were 48,000 deaths in Jan and Feb (when virtually no one was double vaxxed) and have been a further 5,000 until mid-July as more and more people were slowly getting two jabs.

ONS data jan to july.

If barely anyone was double jabbed then of course most deaths would unvaxxed.

By August almost 60% of the population had been double jabbed.
Report frog1000 September 14, 2021 5:21 PM BST
Using Jan and Feb vaccine data pointless.
Report Escapee September 14, 2021 5:26 PM BST
would give a more accurate picture of pros 'n cons of 2 jabs if data was from May or June onwards
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