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tobermory
10 Sep 21 23:01
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But Mexicans that are walking across the border don't have to worry about it Crazy
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Report Magic__Daps September 11, 2021 8:35 AM BST
Par for the course from this lot. They are absolutely shocking, in what seems every department. It certainly won't have anything to do with future votes though, no chance....

As long certain parts press are simply not allowed to ask any questions at will, then the same disasters will carry on, as they are still getting a free pass from most. Biden promised he would be part of the most transparent Administration in History didn't he, they must be the least transparent ever. Read autocue, refuse questions and walk out.
Report tobermory September 11, 2021 9:16 AM BST
Peter Doocy (Fox News) - "Why is it you are requiring anyone who has a job, or anyone who goes to school, to get the Covid-19 vaccine, but your not requiring that of migrants who continue walking across the southern border?"

Jen Psaki (Biden's spokesperson) - "Well our objective is to get as many people vaccinated as humanly possible, and so the presidents announcement yesterday was an effort to empower businesses, to give businesses the tools to protect their workforces, but we want more people to get vaccinated whether they are migrants or whether they are workers".

Doocy - "But it's a requirement for businesses with more than 100 people, it's not a requirement for migrants at the southern border, why? "

Psaki - "That's correct"


And that's all, no explanation forthcoming Plain
Report edy September 11, 2021 9:40 AM BST
What about migrants that want to work in a business with more than 100 employees?
Report edy September 11, 2021 9:42 AM BST
Also, why does Doocy first talk about "requiring anyone" and then about businesses with more than 100 people?
Report A_T September 11, 2021 9:47 AM BST
I assume migrants working in businesses of more than 100 people will have to be jabbed - so what's the issue here?

one might be forgiven for thinking this is just an excuse to attack migrants
Report edy September 11, 2021 9:51 AM BST
*Also, why does Doocy first talk about "requiring anyone who has a job" and then about businesses with more than 100 people?

Also, why only southern border and not northern border?

Also, is this an attempt to blame the Texas numbers on migrants?

Also, are Cubans on dinghies responsible for Florida's numbers?
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 9:54 AM BST
I am not clear what the link is here? Roughly 25% of Americans are not vaccinated, they have chosen not to. That is their choice.
Report Make my hay September 11, 2021 10:08 AM BST
Do the 100 or more employees of a business all have to work in the same building to qualify for a required jab or can they be dotted all around the States?  all a bit vague.
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 10:10 AM BST
I would guess that it's simply based on the number of employees irrespective of which building they are in.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:18 AM BST
If the Biden admin wishes to impose restrictions and thinks that Americans should be vaccinated then they should not allow any migrants into the country without being vaxxed .
Report A_T September 11, 2021 10:19 AM BST
I'm still confused as the point being made here. Are migrants not subject to the "employers of more than 100" rule?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:21 AM BST
The employers of 100 or more rule means that all migrants entering the U.K. should either be vaxxers or turned back
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:22 AM BST
* vaxxed
Report edy September 11, 2021 10:22 AM BST
Also, why does Doocy talk about vaccination being a requirement when people/businesses can alternatively produce a negative test once a week?
Report edy September 11, 2021 10:22 AM BST
Also, why do you, Tobermory, not mention the testing alternative?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:24 AM BST
A negative test should not be an adequate requirement for migrants
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:25 AM BST
The government is trying to persuade Americans to get vaccinated
They don’t have to persuade migrants , they tell them
Report Make my hay September 11, 2021 10:32 AM BST
A business has 10 branches each employing 10 workers they all need to get jabbed, but a business with say 90 employees that all work together in the same building wouldn't need to?
Report saddo September 11, 2021 10:34 AM BST
Its a virus, you are looking for logic when all people can guess do is guess and hope.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:34 AM BST
That’s not the point of the thread
The point is the Biden administration is allowing ( in theory maybe not in practice) millions of migrants into the US
A percentage of whom will have Covid
Report A_T September 11, 2021 10:40 AM BST
The point is the Biden administration is allowing ( in theory maybe not in practice) millions of migrants into the US
A percentage of whom will have Covid


but isn't there COVID already in the US?
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 10:43 AM BST
Sure is. In multiple Republican governed states there are next to no restrictions.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:45 AM BST
And your point is ?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:50 AM BST
America imo should consider , if possible , isolating individual states
In an attempt to eliminate Covid state by state
Report saddo September 11, 2021 10:53 AM BST
Like Australia? Americans are not pliant fools like Australians, and thank goodness for that.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:54 AM BST
It’s possible that republican states were infected initially by democratic states?
Report edy September 11, 2021 10:55 AM BST
You can't just build a wall around Texas like that.

If I remember correctly, some states actually tried to limit interstate travel, or at least considered it, but it was ultimately  deemed that the consittion does not allow it (when it comes to covid).
Report dave1357 September 11, 2021 10:55 AM BST
Peter douchy just wastes every single question by trying to set traps for someone who is way to smart to fall for them.
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 10:56 AM BST
There is a very simple and straightforward solution. Everyone should be vaccinated. However, there are around 25% of Americans, mostly white Trump supporting Republicans who refuse to do so for a number of reasons such as the believe Covid is a hoax, the vaccines will kill you, God will save you and some are even taking a horse wormer drug in the mistaken belief that it cures Covid.
Report edy September 11, 2021 10:56 AM BST
They can of course always plea with people, but you know how it goes in the US. If the plea comes from Democrats, the cringe-right fringe of the Republicans would travel extra hard just to own the libs.
Report A_T September 11, 2021 10:57 AM BST
this Doocy fella sounds very concerned by COVID. he must fiercely condemn GOP-controlled states that don't enforce restrictions to stop the spread of the virus?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 10:59 AM BST
If the president is not prepared to enforce restrictions on non Americans - he shouldn’t be preaching to any American on the subject , sorry
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 11:00 AM BST
Such as Texas. The Republican governed state yesterday had 17,208 new Covid cases and 412 new deaths.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 11:00 AM BST
The democrat states started the virus in America
Report A_T September 11, 2021 11:01 AM BST
Such as Texas. The Republican governed state yesterday had 17,208 new Covid cases and 412 new deaths.


Doocy must be furious about that?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 11:05 AM BST
There have been more deaths in California than any other state in the country
Report Dr Crippen September 11, 2021 11:07 AM BST
The troll is correct there were 412 deaths reported yesterday in Texas.

And he wants to let people into the country without any checks.
Report A_T September 11, 2021 11:09 AM BST
There have been more deaths in California than any other state in the country


11% more than Texas. but it's population is 48% larger. someone should tell Doocy he'd be livid and no doubt do a piece about it
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 11:10 AM BST
Republican Governed Florida has over a million currently active Covid cases and rising rapidly. There is only so many times you can ask the mostly elderly white Republican Trump supporting residents to be vaccinated.
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 11:11 AM BST
Why would Biden and the Dems be prepared to allow millions more migrants into the country -many of whom will have Covid
What are they up to ?
Report saddo September 11, 2021 11:12 AM BST
A_T, why are you obsessed with Dr Crippen?
Report saddo September 11, 2021 11:14 AM BST
politicspunter 11 Sep 21 10:10 
There is only so many times you can ask the mostly elderly white Republican Trump supporting residents to be vaccinated.

..............................
Aye there is, before it starts to look like pressure selling. Double glazing, tarmac anyone?
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 11:19 AM BST
Australia in fairness have been quite successful regarding Covid - they also were successful in stopping their migrant crisis
Report lfc1971 September 11, 2021 11:20 AM BST
Toughen up America - and Britain
Report saddo September 11, 2021 11:21 AM BST
They are living like rabbits down a hole, successful? I would choose life.
Report Dr Crippen September 11, 2021 11:21 AM BST
Why would Biden and the Dems be prepared to allow millions more migrants into the country -many of whom will have Covid
What are they up to ?


That's a dead giveaway, which shows they're not trying to stop the spread of covid.
The answer might be control.

I assumed these decisions to force vaccination on the people were driven by influence from powerful pharmaceutical companies in an effort to maximise their profits.
Perhaps it's both?
Report A_T September 11, 2021 11:31 AM BST
the priority for Texas should be policies that seek to control COVID - well that and increasing the number on voting rolls
Report Reynard September 11, 2021 11:57 AM BST
A_T • September 11, 2021 10:40 AM BST
but isn't there COVID already in the US?

politicspunter • September 11, 2021 10:43 AM BST
Sure is.

Briliant . Ask a question , switch accounts , Answer question Crazy
Report Dr Crippen September 11, 2021 12:21 PM BST
I wonder how many regular posters work for Betfair.?

It doesn't pay to cross them because they'll soon get you banned.
Report Reynard September 11, 2021 12:30 PM BST
Dr Crippen • September 11, 2021 12:21 PM BST
I wonder how many regular posters work for Betfair.?

It doesn't pay to cross them because they'll soon get you banned.

I have never had anyone banned Plain
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:34 PM BST
Am I still A_T and politicspunter as well? Or am I only still Orioles?
Report Reynard September 11, 2021 12:35 PM BST
I have no idea who you are , edy . I know what you are , but not who Grin
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:38 PM BST
What am I?
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:38 PM BST
In addition to being universally awesome.
Report Reynard September 11, 2021 12:41 PM BST
I'd prefer not to say in order to retain my posting rights Whoops
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:46 PM BST
It would not be praise? Sad
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:47 PM BST
I actually thought you were hinting at you knowing that I'm a moderator, but nobody would ever get banned for saying so. Look at Crippen. He's said it like a hundred times.
Report edy September 11, 2021 12:48 PM BST
Do you think I am a moderator or otherwise work for Betfair, Reynard?
Report Reynard September 11, 2021 1:07 PM BST
No and no
Report edy September 11, 2021 1:17 PM BST
What have I ever done to you that you would not be full of praise towards me?
Report edy September 11, 2021 1:18 PM BST
In what ways have I hurt you in the past?
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