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Burt06
06 Sep 21 12:21
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NICOLA STURGEON has suffered a humiliating blow as her own adviser has warned of the economic impact of Scottish independence.

Professor Mark Blyth, part of the First Minister’s economic advisory council, poured cold water on Ms Sturgeon’s Scottish independence hopes. He suggested “pulling apart” more than three centuries of economic integration between Scotland and the rest of the UK would “hurt a lot”.

Speaking ahead of his appointment to the advisory council in July, Prof. Blyth admitted Scottish independence could be “Brexit times 10”.

In the interview with the Foreign Press Association, Prof Blyth added arguments Scotland needed to leave the UK because of Brexit do not hold water.

He told the outlet: “If your argument is that we need to do this because of Brexit, then Scotland separated from England is the biggest Brexit in history.

“The last time Scotland was fully economically independent, the word capitalism hadn’t been uttered.

“It [the Union] has been together for over 300 years.

“So, if pulling apart 30 years of economic integration with Europe is going to hurt, 300 years is going to hurt a lot.”

Prof Blyth also suggested an independent Scotland may need to keep the UK’s Trident nuclear deterrent on the Clyde to get into the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1486879/nicola-sturgeon-news-scottish-independence-advisor-mark-Blyth-brexit-times-ten-warning

Now of course, on this very forum we have enquired with the bigoted knuckle draggers of the SNP time after time vis-a-vis all the nation building and costs involved and every time they have seen such a thread they refuse to engage and run for the hills. Kenny the Cringe and Delicate flower the 2 most regular culprits. Now that's fine, if their position is so weak it will not withstand any debate and they wish to scarper rather then engage then so be it. But, people who know the truth are going to speak the truth - they can ignore the truth all they like but it will shine never the less. Then, the people of Scotland can choose to maintain the status quo or enter a period of financial armageddon where all their laws are made in Brussels.

And speaking of Brussels we are still to see the terms and conditions upon which Scotland would re enter the EUSSR. People been asked to switch Unions whilst having no idea whatsoever of the T&C's of the proposed new Union.


Kenny the Cringe, Delicate flower - where you at?Grin
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Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 1:24 PM BST
I don't know why he seems to think maintaining Trident would be a condition of EUSSR entry, but how would people in Scotland who plan to vote for switching Unions feel about that?

Should the T&C's of joining the new Union be published so the people can see with eyes wide open?

Why are the knuckle draggers asking the good people of Scotland to vote blind?
Report lapsy pa September 6, 2021 1:27 PM BST
Fair play for admitting brexit is shyte Burt
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 1:30 PM BST
Wages rising at the fastest pace in history, our laws and trade deals been made by people we vote for.Immigration been reduced year on year and more than £350 million per week extra going to the NHS.

Exactly what we voted for. Lovely jubbly.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 1:32 PM BST
And the prize for the first of the KD'S to dodge the subject goes to epilepsy.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 1:32 PM BST
Anyone know where you can get an irony-meter? Mine just blew up.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 1:33 PM BST
Only 2nd prize for the KD Porkyteller.Sad
Report lapsy pa September 6, 2021 1:34 PM BST
Burt 1.30 post,

Is that Sesame St you are talking about?
Report casemoney September 6, 2021 1:35 PM BST
Poor Ferguson ,she thought no one would notice .
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 1:37 PM BST
None of them want to engage and none of them want to show us the T&C's.

Shameless chancers.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 2:10 PM BST
The queen in Scotland has also chosen to remain silent on this matter.

UNFBL!
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 2:26 PM BST
Where Kenny the Cringe and Delicate flower at?Grin

Running for the hills.Laugh
Report sofiakenny September 6, 2021 2:51 PM BST
Breitbart blurt expounding his usual drivel..worra tool.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 3:56 PM BST
Kenny the Cringe running for the hills again.

He advocates the unknown. Please vote blind is his message. It'll be alright on the night is his calling. What a pitiful KD.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 4:03 PM BST
1 simple question for Kenny the Cringe or any other England hater that fancies a stab at this.

The SNP advocate leaving the British Union in favour of joining the European Union. The terms and conditions of membership to the British Union are well known and have been for centuries. So, what are the terms and conditions of re entry into the European Union?
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 5:22 PM BST
Come on Kenny - at least have a stab at that one.
Report sofiakenny September 6, 2021 5:44 PM BST
Blurt..I love my English pals..however tory crooks and liars i despise with a passion...
Do you still think Trump won the election?.. you demented headbangerLaugh
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 5:44 PM BST
Kenny the Cringe and the Delicate flower got nowt to say.

There answer goes something like this though : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahcahhymdFw
Report HallGreenSpy September 6, 2021 8:08 PM BST
Brexit x 10. Go for it Scotland!
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 9:49 PM BST
Why will Kenny the Cringe not answer such a fundamental question?

Instead of an answer we get juvenile diversion and name calling. Pitiful.
Report sofiakenny September 6, 2021 10:52 PM BST
Pretty rich coming from you Blurtie boy..DO YOU STILL THINK TRUMP WON THE ELECTION?......I'm STILL WAITING YA PLUM!
Report Giuseppe September 6, 2021 11:00 PM BST
i thought nicola was all about listening to the experts?

bit hypocritical of her isn't it?
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 11:00 PM BST
Sheesh, he just won't answer. Such a serious and fundamental question but all he wants to do is talk about crazy Donald.

We all want to know what is the position of you KD's vis-a-vis the T&C's of EU re entry.

You lot do have a position? Right?


And just for the record - i have never commented on the US election at any time on this forum. Never. So the assumption within your question is false. A lie. A fraud.

Now, how about you answer just 1 question.

Hey, if you can manage that maybe you can clarify why 1 of Krankees advisors seems to think maintaining Trident could be a condition of EU membership. If that cam to pass how would all you KD's feel about that?


But for now, try and have a stab at the first question. You know, the one you are your cult been ducking for almost a decade.Grin
Report politicspunter September 6, 2021 11:03 PM BST
I fumble for change, and pull out the Queen
Smiling, beguiling
I put in the money and pull out a plum
Behind me
Whispers in the shadows, gruff blazing voices
Hating, waiting
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 11:04 PM BST
Skintpunter is down in the tube station at midnight looking for cheap rent boys.
Report akabula September 6, 2021 11:39 PM BST
Plenty of abuse but not one argument against the gist of the story.
There is no economic case for independence.
I know it, Sturgeon knows it and, in fact, everybody knows it.
Report Burt06 September 6, 2021 11:58 PM BST
There argument is so weak it will not with stand any debate.

That's why they choose silence.
Report sofiakenny September 7, 2021 12:19 AM BST
"Crazy Donald"..really Blurtie?...you were NEVER a Trump fan?LaughLaughLaugh
Report akabula September 7, 2021 12:37 AM BST
And thats why Burt the likes of kennybhoy and polly reverts to deflection. No case whatsoever.
Report politicspunter September 7, 2021 3:13 AM BST
Anyone who has forty three thousand odd posts over eight years on the same subject clearly has mental health issues.
Report akabula September 7, 2021 9:24 AM BST
Laugh What a mupp3t this guy is.
As Meadows, an snp man, he posted 22,ooo posts all on the same subject.
After being schooled by Trilby, too many times to count, he swapped to politicslpunter claiming to be a traditional Tory voter and posted 35,000 times all on the same subject.
The same subject being in support/defending the snp. ps I use the term all in the same way that polly does.
Polly be a good boy and put the kettle on.
Report cryoftruth September 7, 2021 9:29 AM BST
Sickening abuse from bula, but then again Tuesday does have a “y” in it so why would he suddenly behave like a half decent human being today when he can call other people stupid names and lick windows?
Report cryoftruth September 7, 2021 9:33 AM BST
And Mark Blyth is an excellent economist. He has been quite clear that independence for Scotland would have short term economic implications. It is a matter of whether you believe that remaining under the yoke of repression from evil corrupt Tory government and being a vassal state dominated by a big neighbour is an issue worth fighting for.

He did not say that Scotland could not be a perfectly viable independent country. But of course he would not say that because it’s clearly untrue.

Freedom does not necessarily come cheap. Unlike being repeatedly rude and insulting to others like some bullying low life imbeciles on this forum clearly demonstrate.
Report akabula September 7, 2021 9:36 AM BST
And Mark Blyth is an excellent economist. He has been quite clear that independence for Scotland would have short term economic implications.

Do you consider 20 year a short term?
Report akabula September 7, 2021 9:38 AM BST
CoT any truth in the rumour that the snp, in the event of them getting independence have asked the Taliban if they can go into a currency union with them?
Report cryoftruth September 7, 2021 9:39 AM BST
Yes indeed in the life of a a Nation it is is but a fleeting glimpse.
In the long run a decent country governing her own affairs, free of WMD, able to make her own decisions and not being subdued and dominated is a great prize to achieve. History will look back and wonder why Scotland agreed to being a vassal state for so long after she is free.
Report akabula September 7, 2021 9:41 AM BST
More chance of history looking back and wondering what became of Scotland.
And are you forgetting the snps pledge to join NATO?
Report cryoftruth September 7, 2021 9:42 AM BST
CoT any truth in the rumour that the snp, in the event of them getting independence have asked the Taliban if they can go into a currency union with them?

Says it all about you really. Not remotely funny, no real humour, just bitterness and hatred of Scotland running through each bile ridden post.

Why not try being kind to others for a change instead of going through your life hating and hating and hating?

You claim to be a pensioner soI expect it’s too late for you to change now, but you might be far happier if you tried kindness and common decency instead of bitter rudeness arrogance and bilge spouting?

Why not give it a go eh?
Report akabula September 7, 2021 9:49 AM BST
Well suggesting a currency union with the Talban is better than anything you've suggested.
Could lead to a trade deal as well.
Report cryoftruth September 7, 2021 9:49 AM BST
There you go again, running Scotland down.
Scotland will always be a fantastic country. That is true whether or not she decides to become a free nation. You just predicting via project fear a disaster is just you allowing your pure hatred of Scotland to run through everything you think say or spew out on a betting forum.
Report lfc1971 September 7, 2021 9:59 AM BST
Very rude for someone who is not Scottish CoT to start lecturing someone who is Scottish
Report sofiakenny September 7, 2021 10:01 AM BST
Be careful cot..he may track you down and send his "hardman" son round to "straighten" you out.
Report akabula September 7, 2021 10:10 AM BST
History will look back and wonder why Scotland agreed to being a vassal state for so long after she is free.

Definition: A vassal state is any state that has a mutual obligation to a superior state or empire.

Are you forgetting that it is the snps goal to join the EU in the unlikely event we become  independent?
CoT you really should engage your brain before posting. Would stop you making foolish comments like that in italics above.
Report lfc1971 September 7, 2021 10:12 AM BST
Quite right
Report akabula September 7, 2021 10:13 AM BST
Not one sensible word supporting the independence argument.
All we get is rhetoric and abuse.
Report lfc1971 September 7, 2021 10:22 AM BST
aka  you do well to ignore the abusive posters and are always courteous it’s not easy :) don’t let them change that sir
Report akabula September 7, 2021 10:29 AM BST
I wont.
kennybhoy telling lies and completely distorting facts.
Report moisok September 7, 2021 10:44 AM BST
Scotland is too cold.  So much for 'warming'Cry
Report politicspunter September 7, 2021 10:47 AM BST

Sep 7, 2021 -- 3:42AM, cryoftruth wrote:


CoT any truth in the rumour that the snp, in the event of them getting independence have asked the Taliban if they can go into a currency union with them?Says it all about you really. Not remotely funny, no real humour, just bitterness and hatred of Scotland running through each bile ridden post.Why not try being kind to others for a change instead of going through your life hating and hating and hating?You claim to be a pensioner soI expect it’s too late for you to change now, but you might be far happier if you tried kindness and common decency instead of bitter rudeness arrogance and bilge spouting?Why not give it a go eh?


Spot on.

Report Burt06 September 7, 2021 7:49 PM BST
Kenny the Cringe aka the silent man, the man with nothing to say, the man without answers, the ducker, the avoider.

Keep running, KD.
Report politicspunter September 7, 2021 7:54 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-58480730
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Report mmmalushka September 7, 2021 8:29 PM BST
It's no fun being a Quislingingerer these days.

Report mmmalushka September 7, 2021 8:29 PM BST
It's no fun being a Quislingingerer these days.

Report akabula September 7, 2021 11:13 PM BST
Report akabula September 7, 2021 11:18 PM BST
Report sofiakenny September 7, 2021 11:34 PM BST
gonna offer your congrats to Steve Clarke ackie?
Report akabula September 8, 2021 12:12 AM BST
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 12:19 AM BST
top left was probbaly a hurricane

second, horse tried to get through and got stuck

cat probably slipped

no idea about bottom left
Report LoyalHoncho September 8, 2021 11:34 AM BST
Well said cot.
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 11:55 AM BST
Kenny - the silent man.

Kenny - man without a plan.

How embarrassing.
Report politicspunter September 8, 2021 11:59 AM BST
Plums three for a pound at Tesco.
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 12:02 PM BST
You get them for nowt at the food bank.
Report lfc1971 September 8, 2021 12:07 PM BST
The only way to get the snp to address the issues is to put them on the referendum ballot
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 5:47 PM BST
Kenny the ghost.

Kenny the coward.
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 5:53 PM BST
Kenny simply refuses to answer.Sad
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 6:01 PM BST
Come on Kenny the Cringe - answer the 1 question.
Report casemoney September 8, 2021 6:04 PM BST
Whats happening here please ?
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 6:05 PM BST
Kenny refuses to answer.

He's ran off.Sad
Report jollyswagman September 8, 2021 6:06 PM BST
most two year olds are more emotionally developed than you burt, doing this marks you out as a complete tool.
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 6:10 PM BST
Wrong. Refusing to defend what you passionately advocate makes you out as a complete tool. As does your immediate desire to defende a fellow traveller at the expense of the truth.
Report jollyswagman September 8, 2021 6:12 PM BST
pmsl, what makes him a fellow traveller to me?

by the way you started a thread during the 2017 general election entitled 'conservative overall majority 1.06, how much money do you want to buy?' yet you never teold me how much money you bought when i asked you.
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 6:14 PM BST
lol know we know what this us about

kenny and burt are both travellers

probbaly going to have a bare knuckle fight later on
Report jollyswagman September 8, 2021 6:16 PM BST
i am not even sure who he means, is it sofiakenny?
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 6:16 PM BST
not many travellers on this forum, must be kenny bhoy
Report lapsy pa September 8, 2021 6:17 PM BST
Tis like one of them call out things alright Laugh
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 6:18 PM BST
Burt McDonagh v Kenny Joyce
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 6:19 PM BST
live on pay per view
Report jollyswagman September 8, 2021 6:19 PM BST
he must have imbibed some poteen.
Report Giuseppe September 8, 2021 8:39 PM BST
just joking kenny Wink

burt set it up with the fellow traveller comment
Report Burt06 September 8, 2021 10:10 PM BST
Kenny -MIA.Sad
Report Burt06 September 9, 2021 2:26 PM BST
Giuseppe is like our village idiot.

Kenny is our Forest Gump. Run Kenny, run.
Report sofiakenny September 9, 2021 2:29 PM BST
Breitbart Blurt...worra raving looney tune!Laugh
Report Burt06 September 9, 2021 2:32 PM BST
Only a coward would behave as you are.

Sheesh, I wouldn't like to have to live with that.

And all you got for solace is skintpunter trying to bm you.
Report politicspunter September 9, 2021 2:33 PM BST
Laugh
Report Burt06 September 9, 2021 2:34 PM BST
He thinks his advances to you are funny. Well, I'll leave you 2 love birds to it.

Not like were going to get an answer is it.Grin
Report Burt06 September 11, 2021 1:06 PM BST
Still no answer.Sad
Report politicspunter September 11, 2021 2:09 PM BST
Seek professional help.
Report Corky September 11, 2021 5:00 PM BST
When will someone ask the English what THEY want. Cry We have the Scots up north who hate us, northern Ireland, who in their right mind wants anything to do with that ? The Welsh who are the sidecar to our motorbike.  UKEXIT FOR THE ENGLISH.Love
Report Burt06 September 12, 2021 1:14 PM BST
We would answer any question put to us.

Kenny the Sucker on the other hand.......Grin
Report Burt06 September 12, 2021 1:19 PM BST
Come on suckers - answer to the people.Grin
Report politicspunter September 12, 2021 1:19 PM BST
Lol, Burt still seething Laugh How many days is that now? Surely a new forum seethe record for days seething and seething threads started.
Report Burt06 September 12, 2021 1:20 PM BST
Seething? I couldn't be laughing any louder at you two hopeless suckers.Grin
Report Burt06 September 12, 2021 1:22 PM BST
How many times has Mugpunter said I am blocked to him? WAC.Grin
Report Burt06 September 12, 2021 1:24 PM BST
The good people of Scotland should tell these headbanging knuckle dragging suckers to either put up or shut up.
Report Burt06 September 14, 2021 1:18 PM BST
Pssttt, Kenny the Cringe - THE QUESTION REMAINS.

Sucker can't answer.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report politicspunter September 14, 2021 1:27 PM BST
Lol seethe seethe seethe LaughLaughLaugh Burt the biggest seether on Betfair Laugh
Report Burt06 September 14, 2021 1:32 PM BST
Come on Kenny, try and answer. If you don't your pitiful back up man will just continue polluting every thread with his drivel.
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