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impossible123
06 Sep 21 07:02
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What an opportunity for the locals? Get those up to middle age and on the dole with a driving licence, expediate their training and tests. I'm sure fellow locals can manage delays or shortages of certain items on supermarket shelves.

Recruit/promote from within is the long term solution; outsiders come and go usually with hidden costs eg welfare/education/housing/nhs costs.
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Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 9:16 AM BST
there is no one on the dole,tory jobs miracle apparently,
people considered unfit,unable to wipe someones arris,pick an apple now wanted to drive 10 tonne trucks 70mph down a motorway,
shouldnt be a problem Laugh
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 9:28 AM BST
Disability benefit is the one to get on. I don't know its proper name.

They don't seem to go short of anything and they're not classed as unemployed.
Let someone else do the work seems to be the way to go today.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 9:34 AM BST
wheres 1000,s of ballet dancers who can drive trucks in their spare time, when you need them
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 9:50 AM BST
All day behind a wheel and no skiving is asking a lot from today's home grown youngsters.
Report politicspunter September 6, 2021 10:31 AM BST
Get the sponging parasites that can work but refuse to do so to take a job, any job. Whether it be in agriculture, food processing, hospitality, driving, you name it. Why should we tolerate these scavengers, one in particular on here that sits all day posting conspiracy theories about Covid? Stop their dole money, they will be out looking for a job tomorrow.
Report lapsy pa September 6, 2021 10:45 AM BST
Other than lorry drivers,the other labour shortages seem in areas like hospitality,food preparation,meat packing etc. A lot of these are covid 'hotspots' Given that doctors don't want face to face contact isn't it asking a bit to push people into these minimum paid jobs while covid rates are high?
There is certainly a moral argument,most people don't want to do it and i can't blame them.
Report politicspunter September 6, 2021 10:51 AM BST
If I was out in a field picking cauliflowers or broccoli, what are my chances of catching Covid?
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 10:52 AM BST
theres no workers available tory jobs miracle apparently

where ever amazon,supermarket warehouses put up their multi size distribution centres, people in those area,s working in social care leave ,more money and no need to be vacc for starters at amazon etc
Report lapsy pa September 6, 2021 10:53 AM BST
Very little PP,what would you want per hour? Or would you prefer piecework?
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 10:55 AM BST
does this mean brexiteers arnt queuing up to drive trucks,wipe arris and and pick fruit,who,d have flunked it, not happy enough to win the vote now want everyone else to do the shoite jobs to make it work, LaughLaugh
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 10:59 AM BST
What's gone wrong is the system for training HGV drivers, due to covid restrictions.

They've got driver shortages in Europe as well.

One way out would be to grant temporary work visas for Europeans.

The government and civil servants caught asleep as usual.
Report politicspunter September 6, 2021 10:59 AM BST

Sep 6, 2021 -- 4:53AM, lapsy pa wrote:


Very little PP,what would you want per hour? Or would you prefer piecework?


If it's more than dole money, you should be made to take it.

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 6, 2021 11:01 AM BST
Wipe arses in morning, pick fruit
in afternoon.

Avoid national insurance, innit
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 11:01 AM BST
The potential drivers are there or right and willing.
It's simply a matter of training them.

But the British aren't very good at doing stuff like that.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 11:03 AM BST
theyve got driver shortages in EU as well,they havnt but even if they were whats the point in temp visas to attract workers you say arnt there,

or is the latest brexit wheeze to pay eu migrants better wages to steral them from the EU, you really couldnt make this shoite up LaughLaugh
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 11:05 AM BST
Government need to just re-do those adverts. Y'know the ballerina with "her next job is in cyber". Instead, "her next job is 70 hours a week, 5 night sleeping away from home and pissing in a layby".


Winner winner chicken dinner.
Report lapsy pa September 6, 2021 11:06 AM BST
Food firms begging ministers to use prisoners,i mean really? how has this situation come about?

PP,i disagree,if it is more than just dole it is slave labour still.
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 11:06 AM BST
whats the point in temp visas to attract workers you say arnt there,

A shortage of drivers isn't a complete absence of them.

They'll come here for higher pay.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 11:07 AM BST
takes 10 years to train people up to drive the biggest/complicated rigs,
hence you,ll only get people in to years of so called entry level driving [ low wages ] by offering them big bucks,then those already qualified to operate the bigger rigs will want more money to drive them,
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 11:08 AM BST
The amusing this now is that if we did open our borders to European truckers/care workers etc we'd be absolutely flooded. They liked it here before, but suddenly wages have shot up 40%. We'd be better re-writing road signs in Polish as there'd likely be more Poles than Brits on our roads.
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 11:11 AM BST
The covid mess over the last eighteen months and even now is wrecking the country.

People keep calling for lockdowns and restrictions, and when they happen this is the result.

Nothing gets done.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 11:11 AM BST
another big hit for hgv .low wage jobs is the ending of IR 35,people were using [ abusing ] the tax system to make it worth their while to subsidise low wage jobs for both employers and employees
Report Dr Crippen September 6, 2021 11:20 AM BST
There's a bottleneck in the training of HGV drivers due to the covid restrictions.

It's the same all over the country.
Nobody is doing anything.

The civil servants are sitting at home in their gardens instead of working.
Report lfc1971 September 6, 2021 11:33 AM BST
Hgv drivers are doing a difficult and important job , pay should reflect that
Of course if someone wants a cushy job sitting in an office in maybe the civil service or in cyber , whatever that is , then pay should in such cases be subjected to the same realities . That’s the reality of the new market place
Report lfc1971 September 6, 2021 11:37 AM BST
Farm workers etc also
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 11:45 AM BST
brexits biggest success has been turning right wingers into leftist socialists LaughLaugh
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 1:05 PM BST
Laugh
Report macarony September 6, 2021 2:04 PM BST
takes 10 years to train people up to drive the biggest/complicated rigs,

have you been sniffing glue?
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 2:08 PM BST
10 yrs is what the training provider/expert was saying on tv you,ll probably need a years ex or so at every level as you go up the different levels
but of course you,ll better
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 2:09 PM BST
you probably think i sit here and pluck 10 yrs out of the sky
Report macarony September 6, 2021 2:18 PM BST
expert what in? have been watching tic tok
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 2:21 PM BST
i suppose the alternative is listening to brexiteers who have been right about nothing in 5 yrs LaughLaugh
Report macarony September 6, 2021 2:28 PM BST
Or better still someone with 30 years experience of the haulage industry
Report saddo September 6, 2021 2:53 PM BST
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10 yrs is what the training provider/expert was saying on tv


................................



It must be true, it was on tv and he was an expert Laugh lmao at people.
Report Giuseppe September 6, 2021 3:16 PM BST
how long does it take mac?
Report Corky September 6, 2021 3:25 PM BST
It's immensely satisfying to see remoaners still SEETHING after all this time. And always with a smiley thrown in to hide their tears

Love
Report saddo September 6, 2021 3:28 PM BST
It could possibly be ten years in a minute number of cases, but we are talking about general hgv drivers and ten years sounded preposterous to me. The worrying thing is that people question nothing, cos it's experts on TV.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 3:37 PM BST
one minute he,s an expert 30 yrs in trade, then its preposterous, then its possible in some circumstances  LaughLaughLaugh
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 3:42 PM BST
the point is its low paid work at entry level ,if they raise entry level wages all those further up the scale will want thier wages increasing,rightly so,when everyone in the supply chain demands better pay/better working conditions and rightly so, so some buinesses will say nah thanks
amazing all these tory,s/right wingers demanding business pay better wages better T,s n C,S same right winger saying minimum wage would cripple uk plc 20 yrs ago LaughLaugh
Report mrtopnotch September 6, 2021 4:25 PM BST
Cabotage is the main problem - it's as if people didn't know what they were voting for, or those negotiating didn't know what cabotage is ... shocking!


Cabotage restricts hauliers to a maximum of three cabotage operations within the seven day period following the delivery of an international load (Unlimited in the Single market).
Post Brexit limited to 1 in GB and 2 in NI

A journey to the GB by EU hauliers is now meaningless
Report saddo September 6, 2021 4:26 PM BST
The point is, why would a TV company find the one expert who would use the 10 year scenario when many others would say it's a few months, and why would you believe him? Could they possibly have found similarly handy 'experts' for the covid propaganda?
Report macarony September 6, 2021 4:26 PM BST
Giuseppe
Giuseppe06 Sep 21 14:16Joined: 21 Jun 05 | Topic/replies: 19,967 | Blogger: Giuseppe's blog
how long does it take mac?

when I went for mine the Royal mail sent two of us for fortnight
Report macarony September 6, 2021 4:29 PM BST
the point is its low paid work at entry level ,if they raise entry level wages all those further up the scale will want thier wages increasing,rightly so,when everyone in the supply chain demands better pay/better working conditions and rightly so, so some buinesses will say nah thanks
amazing all these tory,s/right wingers demanding business pay better wages better T,s n C,S same right winger saying minimum wage would cripple uk plc 20 yrs ago LaughLaugh


You sound like Maggie Thatcher another muppet that thinks he is a socialist yet supports globalization
Report mrtopnotch September 6, 2021 4:30 PM BST
Cabotage is the main problem - it's as if people didn't know what they were voting for, or those negotiating didn't know what cabotage is ... shocking!


Cabotage restricts hauliers to a maximum of three cabotage operations within the seven day period following the delivery of an international load (Unlimited in the Single market).
Post Brexit limited to 1 in GB and 2 in NI

A journey to the GB by EU hauliers is now meaningless
Report impossible123 September 6, 2021 6:41 PM BST
I think the DVSA ought to recruit more examiners (voted for industrial action as from 26th Aug) or divert present qualified ones to help expedite those training and wanting to become HGV drivers. I believe there's presently a backlog; prioritise this category over the rest. Job done!
Report impossible123 September 6, 2021 6:46 PM BST
We've over 1m new Polish immigrants and hardly any are HGV drivers. How absurd is that? We do not want Polish packers at Amazon, courier drivers or those working at Costa, Starbucks or Domino pizza.

I blame the EU for dumping these on the UK.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 6:49 PM BST
allowing visa,s for EU dribvers wont even help as explained elsewhere they only get paid when delivering on the rd,if there less exports going to EU BECAUSE OF RED TAPE,A one way journey isnt worth it in the pay packet,hence they,d rather work at amazon,sports direct ,tesco,asda,warehouses
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 6:50 PM BST
its like getting a taxi in paris to london and expecting the taxi driver to pay his return journey out of his own pocket,he,d be doing a 12 hr trip for nothing
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 6, 2021 7:09 PM BST
Government need to just re-do those adverts. Y'know the ballerina with "her next job is in cyber". Instead, "her next job is 70 hours a week, 5 night sleeping away from home and pissing in a layby".


Her next job might be in I T

Her next sh1te might be in a plastic bag..
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 7:17 PM BST
I blame the EU for dumping these on the UK.



There it is folks. The stupidest post of the month. You can stop checking and go home lads.
Report saddo September 6, 2021 7:20 PM BST
Indeed, Blair ushered em in, nowt to do with the EU.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 6, 2021 7:23 PM BST
Hang on. We've got a contender.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 6, 2021 7:24 PM BST
Never long to wait...
Report saddo September 6, 2021 7:25 PM BST
Correct any mistake I wrote there.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 6, 2021 7:26 PM BST
Some bloke aftertimed a losing
bet on footy forum today..
Report saddo September 6, 2021 7:31 PM BST
No correction then, the truth is rather difficult to bat away isn't it.
Report macarony September 6, 2021 8:10 PM BST
The bottom line is people like we're unhappy with low pay and poor working conditions we complained about it only to be told to funk off if you don't like it we can replace you with workers from Eastern Europe. Also there had been endless comparisons between we the lazy Brit and the hard working immigrant. So when the binary vote on Brexit came around we done the best thing we could to improve our situation we voted to leave, and now it is paying off not only is pay raising but we also deliver the biggest funk you to the middle class R soles that run this country into the bargain
Report LoyalHoncho September 6, 2021 8:16 PM BST
Well said maca.  You sound like "Citizen Smith".
"I've got battles to fight and rights to right!   Laugh
I hope lfc1971 and his pals now understand what this dreadful Brexit is actually doing to the life of the nation.
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 8:41 PM BST
wages going up  across the board is actually a myth and like stated 2,3 million working and receiving benefits getting a 20 knicker pay cut next week add in NI  rise and thats a £100  month pay cut,infaltion/NI  rise makes the nhs pay rise a pay cut,people really need to look betond the right wing media headlines
Report impossible123 September 6, 2021 8:54 PM BST
I'd like to see daily food and veg markets for local produce. Buy local, eat local; save on air miles, save on one's pocket too.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 6, 2021 9:00 PM BST
Some hgv drivers will get a pay rise
so they don't defect.

Doesn't fill the shortages

Ballet dancers take a few months
to train into IT or HGV
Report macarony September 6, 2021 9:00 PM BST
I think most towns and cities are going to have a permanent daily market
Report 1st time poster September 6, 2021 9:10 PM BST
talk of daily markets/shop local is the talk of middle class in suburbs of manchester/london etc sky high prices ,less choice,
there was a fruit stall in markets at thirsk /northalerton sold a few different things 5/6 years ago you,d queue 30 deep all day now its empty quality gone,gone from picking your own to now all shot in plastic bags ,sweating away, you can walk up anytime no queues
Report Whisperingdeath September 7, 2021 3:09 PM BST
I really don't see what the problem is. Shirley our free market friends and less Government interference in business should be screaming from the roof tops to let the market sort it out?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 13, 2021 6:36 PM BST
Waste truck drivers are being poached by other businesses, some while on their rounds.

There is a shortage of more than 100,000 lorry drivers in the UK, according to the Road Haulage Association.

Tony Wilkinson from the North Somerset Environment Company said it lost five employees in the past two weeks.

The refuse industry fears collections could be disrupted if more staff are enticed to leave their jobs.

The national shortage of lorry drivers has been caused by the departure of many EU workers following Brexit and there have been delays to driver training and testing.

Tony Wilkinson, a supervisor and driver for the North Somerset Environment Company, said "a lot of drivers are getting poached" with offers from big companies.

The problem has contributed to North Somerset Council suspending its garden waste collection scheme for two weeks.
Report 1st time poster September 13, 2021 8:11 PM BST
thought this was an april fool joke but apparently not
to get hgv tests moving shapps wants to remove the reversing and hitching up of trailer out of the test and leave it to firms to decide if they need these skills and train them in house,  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh,
so if you see a 100 lorry,s parked facing the wall dont expect them to be leaving the lorry park anytime soon, LaughLaugh
Report 1st time poster September 13, 2021 8:15 PM BST
not sure how you navigate a loading bay if you cant reverse
maybe johnsons invented a lorry with a drivers cab on both ends LaughLaugh,
they want to hope the ferries dont reverse in to calais or when they drive off they,ll end up heading back to dover till they capsize in the channel LaughLaugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 13, 2021 8:15 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report 1st time poster September 13, 2021 8:19 PM BST
can hardly believe i,m writing this but this is not a joke,this is what shapps put forward to haulier,s test centres ,
good luck anyone taking these tests getting any insurance LaughLaugh,
currently 25% of all deaths in haulier business occur during reversing, think i,ll be a buyer at 25% LaughLaugh
Report macarony September 14, 2021 4:53 PM BST
they want to hope the ferries dont reverse in to calais

I take it you have never been to most ferry ports?
Report LoyalHoncho September 16, 2021 3:48 PM BST
The" new market place" is no different whatsoever to the old, pre-Brexit, market place.  Westminster pensions still proliferate freely buying allegiance and devotion to the status quo whilst the poverty stricken who work for a living yet have to seek welfare support and help from foodbanks are the norm.  The single biggest change in culture in the last fifty years, and nobody cares.  The lfc1971 smug I'm alright jacks still rule the roost and take a further 20 a week out of their pockets.  Tory brutality rules.
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