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casemoney
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Virginia Giuffre: Prince Andrew accuser files civil lawsuit in US

A US woman who alleges she was brought to the UK aged 17 to have sex with the Duke of York has filed a civil lawsuit in New York claiming he abused her.
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Report akabula August 10, 2021 10:31 PM BST
Andy an absolute idiot to have gotten involved with Epstein.
Guilty or not guilty he's now seen as a sleezebag.
He won't go to America and won't be extradited. Won't stop her being awarded millions though but not sure if she'll collect.
Report MALAY August 10, 2021 10:32 PM BST
not for myself to clarify that, but you could be on the correct track
Report akabula August 10, 2021 10:33 PM BST
He might seek a safe refuge now.
Wonder if the Queen is besties with the Pope and can get him into the Vatican.
Report Capt__F August 10, 2021 10:34 PM BST
doubt it Henry VIII and all that
Report Capt__F August 10, 2021 10:35 PM BST
Expensive evening for Rangers Sad
Report MALAY August 10, 2021 10:41 PM BST
rangers died a good while ago
Report Giuseppe August 10, 2021 10:43 PM BST
all joking aside are they really fukked?

might no tget europa league group stage either but are guaranteed the conference i think
Report MALAY August 10, 2021 10:46 PM BST
everybody knows they are totally skint.
Report Capt__F August 10, 2021 10:48 PM BST
are now Sad
Report akabula August 10, 2021 10:52 PM BST
I presume Malay works in the Financial Sector. He seems to know a lot, especially about the Rangers.
Report akabula August 10, 2021 10:55 PM BST
Getting back on track.
I think Andy should have renounced his position in the Monarchy and sought another profession.
Report Capt__F August 10, 2021 11:01 PM BST
Andy Fix It
Report akabula August 10, 2021 11:02 PM BST
He would make a great Priest.
Report MALAY August 10, 2021 11:06 PM BST
akabula10 Aug 21 21:52Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 43,499 | Blogger: akabula's blog
I presume Malay works in the Financial Sector. He seems to know a lot, especially about the Rangers.

Never, my wife did though.
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 1:36 AM BST


Cannot understand why he denied  he met this woman and lets face it shes nearly as big as him this in 2001 so it had been going on a couple of years ,There is more to this than Meets the eye ,IF THAT IS VIRGINIA how could he possibly deny meeting her , he will have advisers telling
him what to say who must have seen this pic ,What route were they looking to go down ?
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 1:38 AM BST
The Way out was Yes ,Pished up met the girl thought she was at least 20 may have had sex ..
Report Giuseppe August 11, 2021 1:40 AM BST
could it be photoshopped?
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 1:42 AM BST
Its a posed photo he knew it was been taken ,looks like he has his arm round her
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 1:45 AM BST
None of it makes Sense G , Just say "yes I met her was pished up not sure what happened ", the girl could easily pass as 20 in that Pic

He has dug some hole is all I can say , Crackers .
Report Giuseppe August 11, 2021 1:49 AM BST
doesnt his arm look a bit long?
Report Giuseppe August 11, 2021 1:49 AM BST
there is a bigger version that shows his arm
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 1:54 AM BST
Foook knows mate , My question is why Deny the meeting ,Perhaps if shown he met her as Kenny said earlier there is more in the Pipeline Plain
Report lfc1971 August 11, 2021 7:47 AM BST
The whole thing is completely ridiculous and a disgrace that Andrew has to go through this charade .She’s a gold digger , end of .
Report politicspunter August 11, 2021 8:10 AM BST
Where are all the racists to condemn the alleged rape of a white child?
Report politicspunter August 11, 2021 8:55 AM BST
Ah, of course, they only post when the alleged perpetrator isn't white Sad
Report lfc1971 August 11, 2021 9:24 AM BST
Remember Robespierre , he drove through a law which allowed juries to pass sentences based on
‘ moral conviction ‘ rather than evidence
The King and Queen were executed and many thousands lost their lives in a reign of terror

Remember what happened to Robespierre
Report snowynoon August 11, 2021 11:00 AM BST
There is no mention of "rape" in the lawsuit ,it alleges "sexual abuse ".And why is one poster determined to bring race into every discussion ?
Report sofiakenny August 11, 2021 11:21 AM BST
snowy.."forced himself" is another way of saying raped.
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 11:50 AM BST
Several  of them on this forum bring race into most posts Snowy .



Where are all the racists to condemn the alleged rape of a white child?

Were plenty of posts by all Regarding the Rape and Murder committed by a white police officer PP

Once again your Seething leftie Sickness surfaces ...
Report casemoney August 11, 2021 11:54 AM BST
As stated there is summat wrong going on here , Who Advised Andrew to say he never met the young Lady and why ,when there appears to be full evidence he did ?
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2021 12:11 PM BST
They are liars. Say it long enough and people believe it. In this case the girl will not be silenced.

He needs to keep his mouth shut and farm some of the Queens land and stay out of sight. I doubt he knew he was doing anything wrong. That boy could do what he liked and nobody told him otherwise.

The real gold digger is Fergie he ex wife not the girl standing up to all the authorities on both sides of the Atlantic and OUR Monarchy who will protect this wrong’un
Report snowynoon August 11, 2021 12:35 PM BST
Are you an acquaintance of his ? How do you know its him that is lying and not her ?Is it not possible that she is lying in an attempt ,many years after the alleged incident to get a life changing amount of money in a settlement ? Or is that absolutely unthinkable in your opinion ?
Report sofiakenny August 11, 2021 12:46 PM BST
sowy..next you will be telling us that you believe that he does not "sweat".
Report snowynoon August 11, 2021 12:51 PM BST
I dont believe or disbelieve him ,but dont see why we should all automatically believe her ,maybe they did have sex ,but to come out 20 years later and say you were raped ,with a potential multi million dollar payout ,im just saying we shouldnt immediately assume she is telling the truth .
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2021 12:52 PM BST
Defending the indefensible!

Maybe she is, who knows?  Does he have a case to answer? Has anybody asked Maxwell as to the veracity of the photo or the interaction in London?

Does not really seem like rocket science.

Who will rid me of this troublesome Madam?
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2021 12:53 PM BST
Have you been following any of this story or any of the testimonies of the abused children and young women?
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2021 12:55 PM BST
Let's start with the photo!

I have never met this woman! Can they prove it is a forgery or can Maxwell confirm she was in London with the girl and the Batternberg?
Report dave1357 August 11, 2021 3:31 PM BST
@snowymoon this was new legislation that allowed her to sue, she was timebarred.  She has been accusing Andrew for years, it isn't an out of the blue accusation. Andrew's problems started with her defamation case against Ghislaine Maxwell in 2015.  Guiffre was also involved in the original Epstein criminal case in 2006
Report akabula August 11, 2021 9:58 PM BST
As regards that photo she looks pretty comfortable for someone who was trafficked.
So whilst Andy will find it impossible to get rid of the sleeze tag I have doubts over her own innocence in this affair.
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2021 10:09 PM BST
I have doubts over her own innocence in this affair.

There we have it. You think it is ok for forty something men to have sex with 17 year old girls and pass them around? Maybe you should move to Yorkshire and be with your mates who hold the same opinion.
Report akabula August 11, 2021 10:14 PM BST
Nope already said Andy is covered in sleeze but I fail to accept the story she tells.
Trafficked all around the world against her will? No chance.
Report Whisperingdeath August 12, 2021 10:13 PM BST
Cressida Dick on his Royal case now. She will be paid off soon no doubt and so will The Home Secretary if she doesn’t get Dick under manners!
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 2:26 PM BST
the FBI will travel to England and arrest him surely.
Report iamajambo August 13, 2021 2:30 PM BST
If only.
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 2:34 PM BST
I remember they arrested a few black lads on FIFA fraud not based in US, which at the time i was surprised how they had jurisdiction to do it, perhaps they have same powers to arrest the royal family beast ?
who knows ?
Hopefully they have
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 2:43 PM BST
fair play to her brave father

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dad-prince-andrew-accuser-says-24751679
Report casemoney August 13, 2021 3:20 PM BST
Did the father not find it Strange his Daughter was flying around Exotic spots in the States and travelling to Europe with a millionaire in her teens ?

I think I might have asked a few questions at the time ,not 20 odd years later .
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 3:22 PM BST
So it is the father and the girls fault not Epstein, Maxwell or the “ Prince “ who took advantage of a 17 year old child?
Report casemoney August 13, 2021 3:28 PM BST
I have not said that WD , I asked where and what the Father was doing back in the day , If my daughter Was on Yatch cruises and the like when she was 17,with millionaires  ,I would like to know what the fook was going on TBH , Its called looking after your children .
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 3:34 PM BST
Like in Yorkshire  case!

The responsibility is with the perps not the victims
Report Giuseppe August 13, 2021 3:36 PM BST
girls in yorkshire weren't taking trips on yachts, they were being picked up off the streets and abused locally
Report casemoney August 13, 2021 3:40 PM BST
The man has appeared out of the woodwork doing interviews with the Sun WD  , where he appears to be standing in a casino Plain Wonder how much he was paid , The girl was exploited sadly in this day and age there is plenty of that going on , Andy is a wrong un, he is sadly not alone in
this world plenty of exploitation of children going on ,Was she paid to go on these trips ?
Report casemoney August 13, 2021 3:41 PM BST
Yes G . WD comparing Mass rape and Murder with this case is rediculous .
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 3:56 PM BST
No

Just saying don't blame the child
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 3:59 PM BST
Some of the girls in Yorkshire were offered drugs, alcohol and money. They were trafficked to be used and abused by disgusting animals. The girl in this case was similarly abused for pleasure of older men who should have known better
Report Giuseppe August 13, 2021 4:00 PM BST
there's no comparison
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 4:03 PM BST
They were trafficked!
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 4:05 PM BST
Are you saying it is alright if rich men do it or the Police were right and the girls were slags?

Is that what you believe?
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 4:05 PM BST
The comparison is startling!
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 4:08 PM BST
it’s no different to what was happening in the music scene and groupies  for decades , perfectly normal - the Rolling Stones , Beatles , Led Zeppelin etc etc , wise up .
Report Giuseppe August 13, 2021 4:09 PM BST
how many girls were involved?

did the police try to sweep it under the carpet?
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 4:10 PM BST
There’s nothing to sweep under the carpet , they were probably all at it
So what it’s nothing new .
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 4:15 PM BST
If course the usual types here will try and make a political point of it , being anti monarchist or whatever ...

Listen , pipe down unless you want Jagger or  every pop star in the world arrested
Report Whisperingdeath August 13, 2021 4:57 PM BST
Bill Whyman might be start! Was he the one taking 13yo girl to a nite club?
Report xmoneyx August 13, 2021 4:57 PM BST
rumour

£14 million out of court settlement
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 5:02 PM BST
if the accused is guilty of being a beast, he should be jailed regardless of who his mother is

anybody disagree ?

come on down and post you're replys or close the thread and reopen when the legal proceedings have finished.

I'm not saying he's guilty btw
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 5:06 PM BST
He won’t be found guilty , because he’s not guilty
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 5:25 PM BST
i admire you're 100% confidence in you're royal hero, seems strange opinion though., maybe you have inside information ?


Were you there when he was with her ? are you getting called as a witness ?
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 5:34 PM BST
Are you ?
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 6:12 PM BST
good answer Laugh
Report annie. August 13, 2021 6:24 PM BST
So where are the pictures of her in chains, as a fellow forumite said? 

She went to Tramps, a top nightclub, why didn't she alert someone to her situation? Why didn't she alert someone again in New York and the island they went to?  She was 17, NOT A CHILD.

In the UK the criminal age is ten, therefore that is saying that someone above the age of ten knows right from wrong.  So she didn't ?  When I was about ten years old a boy exposed himself to me.  I knew that was wrong.  When I was about 12 a man approached me while I was walking home from school in a deserted area ( I didn't do it again), still in my uniform, and started commnenting on my breasts - I ran like hell! I knew it was wrong.  So don't give me that 'child' crap.
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 6:34 PM BST
relax annie,

he said he never met her, let that be his defence

not some beast you regrettably encountered  when 10, absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 13, 2021 6:39 PM BST
Prince Andrew admitted to staying in Epstein's mansion for three days in 2010, after Epstein's conviction for sex offences against a minor.

The Duke said that he met Epstein for the sole purpose of breaking off any future relationship with him.


Three days to tell a convicted paedophile they couldn't be mates any longer!!!!!
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 7:11 PM BST
Bill Gates founder of Microsoft met Epstein ‘ dozens of times’ between  2011 and 2014
So you want him arrested ?
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 7:21 PM BST
Did Andrew , as he said and after that meeting have nothing more to do with Epstein ?
If so we can say good it’s clear you told the truth
Report MALAY August 13, 2021 7:25 PM BST
AKA how many accounts do you have ? hope you are getting well paid for it.
Report lfc1971 August 13, 2021 7:31 PM BST
facts Malay try and stick to facts , not wild imaginings no ones getting paid , that’s best
Report akabula August 13, 2021 10:43 PM BST
Just the one account Malay.
Lots of virtue signalling from you and your friend WD, or are you one and the same poster?

Listened to an American civil law lawyer on GB news the other day who has studied this case from day 1 and whilst making no comment on whether Andy was guilty or not she did say that the girls story did not stand up to scrutiny in that she had constantly contradicted herself.
At 17 she was probably easily manipulated by Epstein but I doubt she travelled the world against her will.
Report Capt__F August 14, 2021 12:16 AM BST
think Andrew was with her

but the point about Pop stars true

Wyman was withh a girl 13 think he married her at 16

must have been in THE TalibanSadSad
Report Giuseppe August 14, 2021 12:27 AM BST
The story took another surprising turn in 1993, when Wyman's 30-year-old son from his first marriage, Stephen, married Smith's mother, Patsy, who was then aged 46. They split after a two-year-marriage.[4]

lol
Report Whisperingdeath August 14, 2021 10:27 AM BST
Oh Annie I’m not your Daddy, Maybe Akabula is.

What a lame defence.

Do you think the girls in Yorkshire were forced to take drugs and drink alcohol before they were trafficked to be used by disgusting animals.

Maybe you think Epstein was a Saint and his pals were philanthropist’s? Oh ashley some of them were and “ Princes “

She was 17 and not a child? Well I hope you do find s problem if 40 something men want to bang your 17 year old daughter. Maybe you should move to Yorkshire of Afghanistan if you think that type of behaviour is normal or acceptable. I fund it disgusting!
Report MALAY August 14, 2021 12:41 PM BST
I doubt there is much truth spoken on gb news aka, probably the accussed royal speaks more


don't have a clue who WD is, i can assure you.

Casemoney is a greyhound punter I have seen his post there previously often.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 14, 2021 12:57 PM BST
The problem with a 17 year old
being an adult is that age
of consent in usa is 18 in some
states.



There were 2  5 star hotels close to
where I lived. Bands playing Newcastle
would ofter stay there. The girls at school
would brag about their activities
as groupies. Aged 14 and upwards.

We're they telling the truth?

Different world back then!
Report snowynoon August 14, 2021 1:13 PM BST
The age of consent varies all over the world ,in the UK it is 16 .If Andrew is being called a paedophile ,then things are getting ridiculous and almost every member of a a rock or pop group since the 60s who have availed themselves of fans/groupies could be investigated .And i agree with Annie ,17 is not a child .As for this talk of "trafficking " ,this term was first used in connection with mainly East european girls being lured to foreign countries under false pretences ,then having their passports confiscated ,and kept in squalid conditions and forced to have sex with men ,this hardly seems to be the case here ,lets try and keep a sense of perspective .
Report MALAY August 14, 2021 3:23 PM BST
reasonable  post snowy, but I'm not sure it is relevant to the andrew case for him.

He's hardly going to now admit he met her which he denied, and admit whatever may have happened, but use his defence as," it is not as bad as what others have done to younger girls".

Surely not.

anyway the whole thing is bad for "brand monarchy"
Report politicspunter August 14, 2021 3:28 PM BST
I am not sure if the excuse that he is not as bad a paedophile as others are is a decent defence.
Report casemoney August 14, 2021 3:40 PM BST
At least he doesn't want vulnerable people to perish , well not as far we know .
Report MALAY August 14, 2021 3:56 PM BST
never met any of the royals, never likely to but i'd speculate they care about nobody apart from themselves and the inner circle and "brand monarchy"
Report Giuseppe August 14, 2021 3:57 PM BST
what about meghan

she seems really nice
Report MALAY August 14, 2021 4:11 PM BST
couldn't care less about meghan tbf
Report Giuseppe August 14, 2021 4:12 PM BST
is that because she's black?
Report annie. August 14, 2021 4:12 PM BST
Agree, snowynoon Happy
Report MALAY August 14, 2021 4:48 PM BST
Giuseppe
Giuseppe14 Aug 21 15:12Joined: 21 Jun 05 | Topic/replies: 17,158 | Blogger: Giuseppe's blog
is that because she's black?


certainly not joe
Report Cardinal Scott September 10, 2021 8:23 PM BST
Prince Andrew served with legal papers at gates of Royal Lodge in Windsor
Report A_T September 10, 2021 8:28 PM BST
serious medical condition incoming
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 10, 2021 8:43 PM BST
No sweat
Report Mexico September 10, 2021 9:39 PM BST
Not 100% clear if papers have been served or not. Left with a copper who may have passed on to the legal team.


From bbc

Legal papers say a process server working for Ms Giuffre's team arrived at the Royal Lodge on Thursday 26 August at 09:30 BST.
The man met security staff, left a business card, and was asked to wait.
The papers say he then spoke to police, including the head of security, who could not locate Prince Andrew's private secretary "or anyone senior".
The agent was told the security team "had been told not to accept service of any court process".
He was then given the solicitor's name and number, phoning him at 10:40, but did not get a response.
On Friday 27 August, the same process server returned to the Royal Lodge in Windsor and spoke to the "head of security".
He was advised the papers could be left with police at the main gates, which would be forwarded to the legal team.
The papers state: "The deponent did enquire whether it was possible to meet personally with the defendant, but the deponent was told that this was not possible."
Ms Giuffre's legal team claim that by leaving the papers with the officer, the service was successfully completed.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 10, 2021 10:08 PM BST
If it's a civil action they won't be able to extradite him.

Think the real fireworks will start when the Maxwell woman's trial starts. If his name crops up then it's going to be a media free-for-all.
Report casemoney September 10, 2021 10:19 PM BST
Mental Illness  , big Polo fan
Report akabula September 10, 2021 11:47 PM BST
Think the real fireworks will start when the Maxwell woman's trial starts. If his name crops up then it's going to be a media free-for-all.

Thats spot on SRC. She'll be sleeping with one eye open just like Jeffrey Epstein.
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