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Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 10:45 PM GMT
It's entirely for the people of Scotland and the people of Scotland alone to decide their own future.
Report Corky November 14, 2021 10:48 PM GMT
I'm not talking about the people of Scotland. What they decide is up to them. I'm saying that the people of England may not want to be in a union with anyone.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 10:51 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2021 -- 4:48PM, Corky wrote:


I'm not talking about the people of Scotland. What they decide is up to them. I'm saying that the people of England may not want to be in a union with anyone.


That's entirely for the folks of England to decide.

Report Corky November 14, 2021 10:53 PM GMT
That's what I am saying. Freedom for England give us a referendum.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 10:55 PM GMT
If you vote for the English Democrats you may have your wish, given time..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
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Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:03 PM GMT
I don't understand why all the parties are so keen on the union. The Welsh have no coal left, and if they did we aren't allowed to use it thanks to Greta so they are useless. The Scots have forgotten how to produce top class footballers for the English leagues so they can jog on. As for Northern Ireland, I don't know a single Englishman that wants anything to do with them.
Report akabula November 14, 2021 11:03 PM GMT
politicspunter
It's entirely for the people of Scotland and the people of Scotland alone to decide their own future.


Of course it is and they did in 2014  when we voted to remain in union with England, Wales and Northern Ireland in a once in a lifetime vote.
Sturgeons words not mine as you'll hear on the link below.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1459674250231619592
Report Giuseppe November 14, 2021 11:04 PM GMT
some useful naval bases in Scotland
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:05 PM GMT
Sinn Fein, Plaid Cymru and the SNP are parties off the top of my head who aren't keen on the union either.
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:08 PM GMT
They don't count. I mean English parties.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:10 PM GMT
I just gave you a non union English party earlier...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
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Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:13 PM GMT
I'm talking about the parties that have a cat in hells chance of being somewhere near government.
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:14 PM GMT
i just asked google if there were any english political parties in the uk but didnt get a clear response
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:14 PM GMT
i just asked google if there were any english political parties in the uk but didnt get a clear respnse
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:16 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2021 -- 5:13PM, Corky wrote:


I'm talking about the parties that have a cat in hells chance of being somewhere near government.


Well, It doesn't seem all that long ago that folks said the same about the SNP, Sinn Fein and to a lesser extent Plaid Cymru.

Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:16 PM GMT
I can't see any government giving anyone a referendum any time soon. The last one they gave us frightened the life out of them Excited
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:17 PM GMT
oh, my refresh must be working slowly, im sure they must be a fine bunch Happy
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:19 PM GMT
oh, my refresh doesnt seem to be working, they are surely a mighty fine bunch Happy
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:20 PM GMT
oh goodness, nots sures whats happening with refresh here, anyway, they sound like a mighty fine bunch
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:20 PM GMT
"Well, It doesn't seem all that long ago that folks said the same about the SNP, Sinn Fein and to a lesser extent Plaid Cymru."

They still do. None of that lot are anywhere near having a cat in hells chance of forming a Westminster government.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:22 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2021 -- 5:20PM, Corky wrote:


"Well, It doesn't seem all that long ago that folks said the same about the SNP, Sinn Fein and to a lesser extent Plaid Cymru." They still do. None of that lot are anywhere near having a cat in hells chance of forming a Westminster government.


WWell, that would be physically impossible for them to do so.

Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:24 PM GMT
So why bring them up. To give the English a referendum would require the Westminster government to say yes.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:25 PM GMT
No it wouldn't.
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:26 PM GMT
Go on then.
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:27 PM GMT
It's for the Prime Minister alone to decide.
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:28 PM GMT
It's up to Carrie then ?
Report politicspunter November 14, 2021 11:29 PM GMT
It's the same for all the home nations.
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:32 PM GMT
as i see it
england wants to be in a union with wales scotland and NI
wales seems to want the union
scotland fairly close but favouring union at last count
NI too hot a topic
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:34 PM GMT
Sounds about right. But I don't get why England are so keen.
Report keyboard_line November 14, 2021 11:35 PM GMT
landmass and additional greatness
Report Corky November 14, 2021 11:37 PM GMT
This forum is broke. None of my posts show up on here for me unless I go back to the footy forum and then come back ?
Report lfc1971 November 14, 2021 11:40 PM GMT
It’s not for the pm alone to decide on a referendum , the Westminster parliament must approve it
Report xmoneyx November 15, 2021 9:07 PM GMT
Tonight’s Union Dividend:

1. Austria TV : Austria match
2. Israeli TV: Israeli match
3. Polish TV: Polish match
4. Hungarian TV: Hungary match
5. Albanian TV: Albania match
6. Scottish TV: England match
Report akabula November 15, 2021 9:53 PM GMT
Are you blaming Westminster for that xmoney? Laugh
Report Just Checking November 15, 2021 11:25 PM GMT
Yes Aka. Is the moon howler saying that the Scottish Football Associations / UEFA's commercial decision to sell the Football Rights to Sky an anti Scottish plot by "English Tories", as is everything?

We need answers. I'm sure he'll be able to explain his logic, and how separation would change things, in the logical joined up way that all the clever people in the Braveheart movement always do. And it won't be incoherent hateful bigotry.

Oh wait that's all they've got isn't it.
Report akabula November 15, 2021 11:33 PM GMT
Tonight’s Union Dividend:

Believing this tells you why the snp get the support that they do.
Report bobmidd November 16, 2021 5:57 AM GMT
betting news - indyref2 - 14 september 2023 fill yor boots.
Report bobmidd November 16, 2021 5:57 AM GMT
betting news - indyref2 - 14 september 2023 fill yor boots.
Report politicspunter November 16, 2021 6:28 AM GMT
Westminster Voting Intention (Scotland):

SNP: 48% (+1)
CON: 21% (-2)
LAB: 20% (+1)
LDM: 7% (=)

Via
@PanelbaseMD
, 9-12 Nov.
Changes w/ 6-10 Sep.
Report mmmalushka November 16, 2021 8:46 PM GMT
Great result against Denmark a joyous night for Scots, a miserable night for the Quislingingerers,Scotiaphobes and the Vichyscotch.


Report akabula November 16, 2021 9:18 PM GMT
malushka do you not know what the snp policy is on oil?
Sturgeon has done a complete u-turn and she now says that oil is bad.
Did yu not know that?
You maybe want to amend your pic.
Report akabula November 16, 2021 9:24 PM GMT
And did you not know that Scotland is near the bottom of the education league tables and that the NHS in Scotland is on its knees.
Do you honestly not know that? Incredible.
Report akabula November 16, 2021 9:28 PM GMT
Great news!
The Independence booklet being delivered to a million homes.


We will finally find out:

1. What the currency would be.

2. How the border with England would work.

3. How we get in the EU with a GDP/Debt ratio of 28%.

4. How we'd fund a central bank.

5. What would replace oil & gas revenues.

Looking forward to it.
Report akabula November 16, 2021 9:29 PM GMT
... I won't be holding my breath though.
Report akabula November 16, 2021 9:34 PM GMT
malushka do you agree with xmoney that the Scotland game being on Sky was Westminsters fault?
Do all the cult members believe that?
Report mmmalushka November 18, 2021 11:12 AM GMT


      Meanwhile Bozo the coward is laying waste to whats left of the UK with his corrupt cabinet of thieves looting the Treasury.



Report politicspunter November 18, 2021 11:16 AM GMT
That train is still a classic! However, Boris painting Laura is still the standout contribution to this thread Laugh
Report politicspunter November 18, 2021 8:54 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2021 -- 4:53PM, Corky wrote:


That's what I am saying. Freedom for England give us a referendum.


https://twitter.com/CheesemanElaine/status/1461343822638505987/photo/1
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Report politicspunter November 18, 2021 8:55 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2021 -- 5:08PM, Corky wrote:


They don't count. I mean English parties.


https://twitter.com/CheesemanElaine/status/1461381422820864000/photo/1
.

Report politicspunter November 18, 2021 11:28 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/CheesemanElaine/status/1461475402845720579/photo/1
.

PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE Laugh
Report akabula November 19, 2021 11:16 PM GMT
Why didn't you post the oil is bad pic malushka? Laugh
Report akabula November 19, 2021 11:21 PM GMT
We've got a £14 billion (maybe even more) black hole in our finances and Sturgeon has been forced to do a u-turn on oil.
Be interesting to see how the upcoming indy paper will address this problem or will the snp just ignore it like normal.
Report mmmalushka November 19, 2021 11:30 PM GMT
Report Giuseppe November 19, 2021 11:30 PM GMT
should've gone to specsavers
Report akabula November 19, 2021 11:34 PM GMT
Why didn't you post the oil is bad pic malushka? Laugh
Report akabula November 19, 2021 11:34 PM GMT
Spot on Guiseppe. Laugh
Report akabula November 19, 2021 11:36 PM GMT
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Report xmoneyx November 19, 2021 11:50 PM GMT
Great news!
The Independence booklet being delivered to a million homes.

We will finally find out:

1. What the currency would be.(scottish pound)

2. How the border with England would work.(walk over it)

3. How we get in the EU with a GDP/Debt ratio of 28%.(scotlands debt is british - we dont have powers to borrow like a normal country)

4. How we'd fund a central bank.(become independent - money will flow in)

5. What would replace oil & gas revenues.(if oil/gas runs out scotland - it runs out britain)
Report mmmalushka November 19, 2021 11:59 PM GMT
Our fellow Quislingingerers,Scotiaphobes,Vichyscotch,lickspittles and unionist grovellers.

Report akabula November 20, 2021 12:07 AM GMT
FFS xmoney that is a thing of beauty those replies that is.
As someone who blamed Westminster for the Scotland game being on Sky I'm not surprised by that post.

Do you knoe how much it would cost to start our own currency?
Only if England lets us and, in the unlikely event we join the EU, we would see a hard border.
Do you realise what the rate of interest would be for a new start up country?
So the money would flow in? How and why?
It hasn't run out, aren't you aware of that? The Greens have forced Sturgeon to do a u-turn not Westminster.

Do you ever think through what you post? Just arrant nonsense.
Report akabula November 20, 2021 12:07 AM GMT
Dear God he posted it. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report xmoneyx November 20, 2021 9:36 AM GMT
there you have it

only if england let us Cry
Report Just Checking November 20, 2021 9:26 PM GMT
Where do you begin with this level of stupid? He is either trolling or it frightening how dense these people are:
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1. What the currency would be.(scottish pound)
2. How the border with England would work.(walk over it)
3. How we get in the EU with a GDP/Debt ratio of 28%.(scotlands debt is british - we dont have powers to borrow like a normal country)
4. How we'd fund a central bank.(become independent - money will flow in)
5. What would replace oil & gas revenues.(if oil/gas runs out scotland - it runs out britain)
Report politicspunter November 21, 2021 11:57 AM GMT
David Wallace Lockhart
@BBCDavidWL
Scottish Tory leader Douglas Ross tells #BBCSundayShow the Owen Patterson saga was “extremely poorly handled”.

Asked twice if he has confidence in Boris Johnson as party leader, Mr Ross doesn’t answer. On third ask, he says “yes” and he’s still the right person to lead party.
Report politicspunter November 21, 2021 7:50 PM GMT
Northern Ireland to Scotland bridge plans scrapped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707
.

Trouble over Bridged Waters ?
Report dave1357 November 21, 2021 8:16 PM GMT
ffs another betrayal for the Scot that voted tory
Report politicspunter November 21, 2021 8:23 PM GMT
Whats his name?
Report lapsy pa November 21, 2021 8:39 PM GMT
A bridge that could have joined the unionists over the Irish sea border, never mind.
Report akabula November 21, 2021 10:06 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1461358749168242690

Anas Sarwar lays bare the scandal of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

And yet the cult still vote for her. Mugs.
Report akabula November 21, 2021 10:09 PM GMT
Yet another day and yet another scandal

Only 44 out of the SNP promised 2,000 jobs have materialised at the taxpayer funded Lochaber aluminum smelter.
The cost to the taxpayer is a staggering £586 million and the SNP tried to hush it up.
FOI finally given after 2 years refusal.
Report akabula November 21, 2021 10:15 PM GMT
From ex first minster AS

Sturgeon didn't just do a u-turn against the Cambo oilfield .. she may also have sunk our hopes of independence.
Oh Dear. How Sad. Still never mind.
Report akabula November 21, 2021 10:19 PM GMT
Yet another snp mp has been reported to Speaker Lyndsay Hoyle for sexual harassment in Westminster.
I think we al know who it is.
Report dave1357 November 21, 2021 10:46 PM GMT
politicspunter • November 21, 2021 8:23 PM GMT
Whats his name?
Report akabula November 21, 2021 11:02 PM GMT
Since when did you become an snp supporter easychips?
I'm not surprised though.
Report xmoneyx November 22, 2021 12:27 PM GMT
boris triumps

Heathrow Runway 3
London island Airport
Garden Bridge
Scotland/Ireland Bridge
Hs2 east coast link
Report xmoneyx November 22, 2021 6:08 PM GMT
Rod Stewart backs 2nd Scottish independence referendumWink
Report lapsy pa November 22, 2021 6:10 PM GMT
Hey lads,forget about independence and get yerselves down to Peppa Pig World.
Report mmmalushka November 23, 2021 12:09 PM GMT
Terrible terrible news it looks as if Bozo Bunter may be on the way out and DRoss has been caught with his fingers in the till claiming expenses from the public purse whilst on refereeing duty for the SFA.
Report LoyalHoncho November 24, 2021 1:31 AM GMT
Well said xmoney.
You did however generously forget to mention his barefaced lies on a campaign bus and his assertion that muslim women looked like pillboxes.
Report akabula November 24, 2021 10:03 PM GMT
This is for Honcho as I know he loves my posted pics.
Report akabula November 25, 2021 7:16 AM GMT
Another day another scandal

COUNCIL chiefs have launched a probe after a pro-indy campaign hub was handed a £10,000 Covid grant designed to support businesses impacted by pandemic curbs.
Inverclyde Council confirmed the public cash was paid to Yes Inverclyde after the organisation applied on the grounds it was promoting a “philosophical position” rather than being “party political”.
Report akabula November 25, 2021 7:20 AM GMT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1463260435222876181

Holyroods Minister for Parliamentary business making Boris look fluent.
Report akabula November 25, 2021 8:34 AM GMT
Nicola Sturgeon plummets in popularity ratings
Popularity of first minister takes drastic hit amid concerns over education and health policies


In The Times.
Report mmmalushka November 25, 2021 9:01 AM GMT
weegingerdug says

The performance artiste with the stage name Boris Johnson who is treating the position of the Prime Minister of the UK as the world’s greatest improv gig does not currently have his troubles to seek. The fall out from his disastrously self serving decision to rip up independent oversight of Conservative MPs’ sleazebag side gigs had not abated when he compounded backbench anger with his toe curling, well let’s call it a speech, to the CBI, which contained more hums and haws and vroom vroom noises than actual words in the English language.

To make matters worse for Johnson, who got the position of leader of the Tory party in part because of his supposed skills as an orator, the meaningful words which the – are we still calling it a speech? – did contain were not strung together in any coherent fashion, and appeared to be mostly concerned with a visit to Peppa Pig land, which Johnson claimed was his kind of place. This must come as a surprise to those who have seen the programme in the company of some under fives and had failed to realise it was actually about a compulsively lying serial adulterer who tries to get a journalist beaten up and who would privatise the NHS if he thought he could get away with it.

Still it’s nice to know that even the supine jellyfish on the Conservative benches in the Commons do in fact have a limit to their toleration of Johnson’s appalling behaviour and manifest unsuitability for public office. However it speaks volumes about the lack of morality, or indeed basic human decency in the Parliamentary Conservative party that the limit was reached, not with a callous incompetence in handling the pandemic which has left the UK with one of the highest per capita death tolls in the world, not with one lie after another. It was not even reached with Johnson’s naked assault on the democratic norms of the UK which the Conservatives effect to be so proud of – up to and including lying to the Queen in order to unlawfully prorogue Parliament in an effort to evade Parliamentary scrutiny of his Brexit deal.

The Tories have been just fine with all of this, just as they have been fine with the corruption, the sleaze and the flouting of the lockdown rules which the rest of us must adhere to. Johnson once again flouted official requests to wear a mask as he watched a performance of Macbeth at a busy theatre in north London on Monday night, according to witnesses, just days after he refused to wear a mask on a visit to a hospital in the north of England.

No, what finally did it for the Tories was a stumbling and shambolic speech about Peppa Pig. The Tories knew exactly what they were getting with Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, they knew all about his total lack of concern for anyone other than himself, the fact that he occupies a principle and moral vacuum, his rank opportunism, and his laziness. But despite all that they chose him as leader anyway, because they cynically calculated that his carefully contrived shambolic “Boris” shtick with his deliberately rumpled appearance and purposely unkempt hair would appeal to a certain type of voter in England who would be swayed by the alleged charms of an upper class patrician type whose persona is based upon not giving a ****. A significant minority in class obsessed England confuse this act with authenticity, enough to give Johnson and the Conservatives the victory they craved in the General Election of December 2019.

Now however the novelty has well and truly worn off and the public in England is starting to show signs of tiring of the Boris performance. Even the robotic and bland Keir Starmer, who would make a bowl of unsalted and unbuttered mashed potatoes seem dangerously spicy by comparison is starting to make inroads into the Conservatives’ lead in the UK-wide opinion polls. As Leader of the Opposition Starmer is assiduous and energetic in attacking his political opponents. Luckily for Johnson and the Tories, the great political opponents of the Parliamentary Labour party are other parts of the Labour party.

There is now widespread disquiet on the Conservative benches as Tory MPs fear for their second jobs and start to doubt Johnson’s ability to get them re-elected. There are rumours of moves being made against him and even that some Tory MPs are sounding out their colleagues about a potential leadership challenge. Downing Street has been forced to go on the defensive, with Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab, himself a selfish incompetence who owes his position entirely to Johnson’s patronage, asserting that Johnson’s speech to the CBI was an example of the prime minister being “ebullient”, in the process giving us yet another example of senior Conservatives using words in entirely novel and unexpected ways, such as when Michael Gove described the Conservatives by-passing the Scottish Parliament and intervening directly on devolved matters as “augmenting” devolution.

It is unlikely that Johnson will be unseated by his party in the short term, the anonymous briefings to the press from unhappy Tory MPs and the rumours of leadership challenges are more likely an attempt from within the party to deliver a shot across the bows of the Johnson ship of state in the hope of getting a few concessions.

However what recent developments within the Conservative party do signify is that for the time being we will not be hearing any more talk from the Conservatives and their allies about a snap General Election in the Spring in order to take advantage of the ineffectiveness of the Labour party. The Conservatives know that they need to get their own house in order first. Their problem is that what they are getting with Johnson is precisely what they should have expected they were going to get. He’s incapable of change and as such is a perfect figurehead for a corrupt and shambolic Westminster which is incapable of reform.

That means we are going to be stuck with Johnson for the time being. He’s possibly the best recruiting sergeant the Scottish independence movement could wish for and the longer he remains in office the more obvious the need for Scottish independence becomes to the undecided and the switherers.

Bozo must stay.

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Report lfc1971 November 25, 2021 9:53 AM GMT
more repugnant abuse from politics punter towards a fellow poster

should be banned
Report mmmalushka November 25, 2021 12:05 PM GMT
What a miserable existance,running down the country of your birth,Quislingingerers and  the Vichyscotch.



Report akabula November 25, 2021 11:11 PM GMT
That last post from malushka.
OIL IS BAD SAYS THE SCOTTISH UNIONIST. Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh
Sturgeon calling on Boris to stop oil exploration.
Report akabula November 25, 2021 11:12 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1463845392387387396

Anas Sarwar again pulling no punched.
Report mmmalushka November 26, 2021 4:26 PM GMT
More women come forward claiming to have Bozo's baby



            The happy couple.

Report politicspunter November 26, 2021 5:20 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report politicspunter November 26, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/RejoinP/status/1464249846513156118/photo/1
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Report xmoneyx November 28, 2021 3:22 PM GMT
The SNP is going to table a motion of No Confidence in Boris Johnson at Westminster on Tuesday

bet £2 starmer abstains Wink
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