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25 Jul 21 09:15
Date Joined: 03 Dec 15
| Topic/replies: 389 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
At the Nuremberg trial the doctors and nurses stood trial, and they hung”.

How many forumites were there yesterday applauding this?
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Report A_T July 25, 2021 10:29 AM BST
who is the blonde wack job?
Report Mexico July 25, 2021 10:46 AM BST
Fairly typical from the racist conspiracy theory flat Earth eras.

Comparison of the response to Covid to the murder of millions of Jews under the Nazi regime 80 years ago.
Hardly surprising if these people get their information from American right wing racist conspiracy theory sites

Yet still nobody bothered to provide any evidence that 1,400 killed by vaccine or that Pfizer gives people sunstroke.

UK has much more freedom now because of the millions and millions who have chosen to have a vaccine. If people are too scared or selfish to have vaccine then don’t have it.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 10:53 AM BST
Icke was there - not sure if the lizards got a name-check
Report Dr Crippen July 25, 2021 10:58 AM BST
How many forumites were there yesterday applauding this?

That looks like a challenge to me.

I think PP's looking for a fight.
Report Dr Crippen July 25, 2021 11:01 AM BST
On the same page, Vlad donates £280,000 to the Tories.

What's he after a seat in our House of Lords when he retires.
Report shiny new shoes please July 25, 2021 11:05 AM BST
UK has much more freedom spoken like a true technocrat
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 25, 2021 11:17 AM BST
So proud of this country this week.

#1 - RNLI staff being abused after Farage moans about them picking up refugees in the channel

#2 - Doctors and nurses threatened with murder for saving lives

Completely wonderful direction we seem to be moving in.
Report Facts July 25, 2021 11:36 AM BST
Thats what you get with a shambolic right wing government led by a complete mess.
Report Dr Crippen July 25, 2021 11:39 AM BST
This government is not right-wing.
Report Foinavon July 25, 2021 12:06 PM BST
What is the context to this Porce? I seem to have missed it.
Report lfc1971 July 25, 2021 12:12 PM BST
I wish we had a right wing government , how the leftists destroy everything given enough time Sad
Report Whisperingdeath July 25, 2021 12:24 PM BST
You think the Eton Rifles and Bully Boys are Left Wing then lfc?

Apart from just plain stupid I mean!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 25, 2021 12:24 PM BST
Lying right wing government

When will the real tories take back control
of their party from this nutter.
Report flat16 July 25, 2021 1:01 PM BST
It is clear to most reasonable people ,that Johnsons' Government is centralist ,so very far from right wing.
Starmer is clearly aiming to achieve Blairite centralist politics ,there will not be a **** paper between them on many issues.
Many assume Brexit to be a right wing policy though it was voted in by (C2)+ (DE) overwhelmingly and the most ardent remainers were (AB)
.......upper middle class ,which now includes the socialists of the champagne variety.
Report saddo July 25, 2021 3:10 PM BST
'right wing' is a very blunt and unsophisticated label. Thatcher was right wing to me, anyone thinking this bend over mob are remotely similar is delusional.
Report macarony July 25, 2021 3:14 PM BST
Right wing = right of woke
Report A_T July 25, 2021 3:36 PM BST
Report macarony July 25, 2021 3:37 PM BST
popular as opposed to unpopular
Report flat16 July 25, 2021 3:42 PM BST
Unsophisticated and blunt accepted: So another way ,if your spectrum is Corbyn and Thatcher as polar opposites ,Johnson + Starmer would be sat relatively close together in the middle.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 3:45 PM BST
With the result of the recent Hartlepool by election it seems we now have a bit of a cult of personality around Johnson - similar to that around Trump in the USA.
Report saddo July 25, 2021 3:46 PM BST
You have to appease the Guardian/BBC and a multitude of victim societies these days flat 16, whatever the colour of your rosette. Thatcher would have told em all to get to feck.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 3:48 PM BST
very different times saddo - Thatcher didn't need constituencies like Hartlepool to form a government
Report dustybin July 25, 2021 3:50 PM BST
I cant agree on the migrant issue.
I saw a boat of Sudanese refugees being interviewed while in the dinghy last week...Id have handed them a bag of bricks.
They've had since 1957 to sort their 5hit and still its our fault.
Sorry no, just like practically the rest of Africa, total basket cases and thats with the gify of commodities too.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 3:54 PM BST
usual unhinged irrelevance from dusty
Report dustybin July 25, 2021 3:55 PM BST
Its relevant given PPs thanks of the week number 1 go to the saving of migrants.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 25, 2021 3:55 PM BST
A right wing government with a few
headline non right wing policies
paid for by more right wing policies
is still a right wing government.
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 7:23 PM BST

Coronavirus: How my mum became a conspiracy theory influencer
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 7:30 PM BST
I think that link above is to the nutjob that in her speech wished to hang NHS doctors and nurses.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 25, 2021 7:32 PM BST
There's a few of em on here.

Likely they see her as a rival for donations.
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 7:34 PM BST
I thought Giuseppe had disappeared?
Report A_T July 25, 2021 7:37 PM BST
It's sad really because she's actually quite insane. She probably wouldn't meet the diagnostic threshold for mental illness because she's otherwise able to function normally but mad she undoubtedly is.
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 7:39 PM BST
I am not certain how mad she is (very probably) but it's certain that her 40,000 you tube followers definitely are.
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 7:42 PM BST
The bit where her son had fallen out with her and she texted him to say his sister and him are going to die because the CIA have a plan to wipe out half the UK population. This is the type of person that the anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists on here follow Sad
Report Giuseppe July 25, 2021 7:43 PM BST
how's the weather in Cambridgeshire today A_T?
Report A_T July 25, 2021 7:53 PM BST
No idea Giuseppe but it's been lovely in my neck of the woods
Report mitolo July 25, 2021 8:00 PM BST
describing someone as 'mad' as mugpunter does is grossly offensive to those who are struggling with mental health issues, is it not? the bbc strongly advises its broadcasters never to use the term.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 8:17 PM BST
mitolo so you believe the conspiracy theorists on here are struggling with mental health issues?
Report mitolo July 25, 2021 9:11 PM BST
what do think? of course not. but mad is a term that is frowned upon by the perpetually outraged who police our language. but its true the bbc have issued guidelines against its use.

stupid and mad are terms used by many on here, like whimpering and mugpunter and you, to describe people they dont like or disagree with. if you dont agree, you are thick, or mad. entirely typical of a certain mindset.
Report politicspunter July 25, 2021 9:17 PM BST
Different username, same shyte.
Report mitolo July 25, 2021 9:25 PM BST
here she is. i rubbish his nonsense. thats all he can come up with. pitiful. he would like to beat me, but he cant. sad, cowardly and dishonest.
Report A_T July 25, 2021 9:26 PM BST
they've either mad or stupid - I'm not sure what other excuse there could be
Report mitolo July 25, 2021 9:56 PM BST
no idea what this fred is about. didnt read most of it. just making a point.
Report Giuseppe July 25, 2021 9:57 PM BST
Report Giuseppe July 25, 2021 9:58 PM BST
that was for punter
Report mitolo July 25, 2021 9:59 PM BST
what you lolling about gari?
Report politicspunter July 26, 2021 6:11 PM BST

I have seen some really dangerous people in my time but this woman Kate Shemirani is right up there with the worst.
Report politicspunter July 26, 2021 7:11 PM BST
Covid vaccine: Speech comparing NHS medics to Nazis condemned
Report politicspunter July 26, 2021 7:15 PM BST
A speech at a protest rally that likened NHS nurses and doctors to Nazis executed after World War Two has been condemned by nursing leaders.

The Metropolitan Police said officers were assessing a video of the speech by former nurse Kate Shemirani during Saturday's protest in central London.

The Royal College of Nursing said it was "reprehensible and could put nursing staff at risk".

London mayor Sadiq Khan said Ms Shemirani's comments were "appalling".

Thousands attended Saturday's event at Trafalgar Square, billed as a "live debate" on Covid-19 and linked to several similar demonstrations across the world.

Some attendees expressed anti-vaccination views, while others questioned remaining restrictions and the use of vaccine passports.

Ms Shemirani, who has been criticised, including by her own family, for promoting virus conspiracy theories, made a speech comparing NHS workers to Nazis convicted at the Nuremberg trials.

Speaking about the vaccine, she encouraged the crowd to challenge vaccinators about its safety.

She added: "At the Nuremberg trials, the doctors and nurses stood trial and they hung."

Ms Shemirani went on to appeal to doctors and nurses to "stand with us, the people".

'Reject hate'
Pat Cullen, general secretary of the Royal College of Nursing, said: "Some nursing staff have been subjected to abhorrent behaviour throughout this pandemic.

"Comments like these are reprehensible and could put nursing staff at risk. We urge the public to continue to support our hardworking healthcare workers. We expect employers to ensure they are doing all they can to protect nursing staff."

Protests opposing vaccines and restrictions have become increasingly tied to extreme online conspiracy theories about sinister global plots.

They have also become increasingly aggressive both online and offline. There is frequent discussion of war crimes and execution - with threats often directed at medics, journalists and politicians who protesters believe are complicit in baseless nefarious agendas.

Saturday's rally was no exception - and the violent language directed at NHS doctors and nurses has been condemned.

Former nurse Kate Shemirani, who made the comments, has grown a following on social media during the pandemic promoting false claims about Covid-19 and vaccines.

For many of those in Trafalgar Square, this has become about more than Covid-19 - and experts have warned of the radicalisation to violence happening in a movement that is being co-opted by extremist groups.

Mr Khan said the speech would be roundly rejected by Londoners.

"This is utterly appalling, and I have raised it directly with the Met Police," he wrote on Twitter.

"Our NHS staff are the heroes of this pandemic and Londoners from across this city roundly reject this hate."

A Metropolitan Police spokesperson said: "We are aware of video circulating online showing a speech that occurred during a rally in Trafalgar Square on Saturday 24 July.

"Officers are carrying out enquiries to establish whether any offences have been committed. No arrests have been made."

Ms Shemirani was suspended from practising as a nurse by the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) in May this year, and struck off in June.

The NMC said Ms Shemirani had "been using her status as a registered nurse as a way of promoting her own distorted version of the truth" and risked "putting the public at a significant risk of harm during a pandemic".

The Nuremberg trials took place in the German city as part of an international tribunal set up to hold remaining German Nazi leaders to account for their actions during World War Two.

One of the first cases, in 1946, was against 23 leading German physicians and administrators accused of willing participation in war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Report shiny new shoes please July 26, 2021 7:28 PM BST
3 mask should sort it all out ExcitedWink
Report leif July 26, 2021 7:32 PM BST
unhinged with an axe to grind, seemingly.

so what is your point exactly?
Report Giuseppe July 26, 2021 7:59 PM BST
didn't an unhinged poster on here recently wish a horrible death on all unvaccinated people?
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