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By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 21:13
now, do they not understand covid, or are they liars?

which is it?
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Jul 21 21:24
Didn’t the government listen to advice and delay full opening for 4 weeks until more people had antibodies.


Uk is almost fully opened, no excuse for people to avoid paying income tax & NI.
The reason U.k is almost fully open is because 90% of adults value freedom, they value health, they care about the country, they care about others, they care about themselves.
There will always be a few people who are too selfish or scared to have vaccine. That is fine, this group is fairly smaller and decreasing every week.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 21:35
you don't understand the people who haven't been vaccinated mexico, and why they have made those choices, your language makes that clear

ironically it is they who understand the value of freedom and the slippery slope you are on
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 21:36
"That is fine, this group is fairly smaller and decreasing every week. "

40k a day now getting a first jab
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 26 Jul 21 21:43
UN!!!!

Read the post properly ffs
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Jul 21 22:17
Ss ffs

Read the post properly ffs.

What part of provide a link can’t you understand ffs

Did you mention UN ffs

Perhaps if you provide a link to your made up misinformation, people may understand what you are on about ffs.

Any chance of a link ffs
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Jul 21 22:39
Giuseppe

Do share these wonderful reasons why the vaccine refuseniks don’t fancy a vaccine if it isn’t because they are too selfish or too scared.
Clearly I don’t mean those with genuine medical reasons.

The minority who don’t value freedom are either too scared to have vaccine because they feel vaccine is risky, or they are too selfish to help others.

Meanwhile 90% of the country value freedom and because of their actions UK is just about first country to open up. Premier league starts in under 3 weeks, looking like will be capacity crowds because of the vaccine and the freedom it brings.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:41
"The minority who don’t value freedom"

they do value freedom which is why they disagree with de facto mandatory vaccination
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:42
lol some countries never closed down
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:43
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

- Roy Keane
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:46
lol police stopping cars and decididng whether their journey is permitted

if i wanted to live in north korea i would have gone tehre years ago
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 26 Jul 21 22:46
German pharmacies stop giving COVID vaccination status after hackers create fake passes.
Comedy gold
-Angela
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:47
"The minority who don’t value freedom are either too scared to have vaccine because they feel vaccine is risky, or they are too selfish to help others."

lol
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:47
"The minority who don’t value freedom are either too scared to have vaccine because they feel vaccine is risky, or they are too selfish to help others."

lol
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Jul 21 22:49
Lol

De facto mandatory vaccine.

Lol yep not being able to go to a nightclub or footie game is same as mandatory.

If you are too scared or selfish to have vaccine then don’t have one. Meanwhile UK is opening thanks to the 90% who value freedom.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:50
you keep repeating this selfish / scared stuff

you don;t understand the issue

you won;t be able to lead a normal life without vaccines

you can't leave the country and pubs will be next
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:51
even when someone tries to explain it to you you still dont understand
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:52
employers will be asking for vaccine prroof next
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:52
already talk of boosters for **** sake
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 22:53
UK is opening because Boris made an arbitrary decision

not because of reaching a vaccine or daily deaths target
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 26 Jul 21 23:04
Germany

"I don't think much of compulsory vaccinations or indirectly putting pressure on people," Mr Laschet told ZDF television.
He likes his balls Tongue Out
By:
feedthepony
When: 26 Jul 21 23:08
Provide a link LaughLaugh

That’s the problem - you sleep walking fools think that the governments ar3 going to provide you a nice formal bullet pointed document on their websites of the acts they have planned to control you further.

It’s why you are so eager to roll the sleeve and take the poison - you’re all desperate to be ruled and too lazy to find the truth.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 26 Jul 21 23:10
always the right saying this stuff
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 26 Jul 21 23:41

Jul 26, 2021 -- 4:17PM, Mexico wrote:


Ss ffsRead the post properly ffs.What part of provide a link can’t you understand ffsDid you mention UN ffsPerhaps if you provide a link to your made up misinformation, people may understand what you are on about ffs.Any chance of a link ffs


ffs

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 26 Jul 21 23:44

Jul 26, 2021 -- 5:08PM, feedthepony wrote:


Provide a link That’s the problem - you sleep walking fools think that the governments ar3 going to provide you a nice formal bullet pointed document on their websites of the acts they have planned to control you further.It’s why you are so eager to roll the sleeve and take the poison - you’re all desperate to be ruled and too lazy to find the truth.


If you provide them a link they call it a right wing conspiracy site so you can't win

I've even had people call the FDA an "un-trustworthy" information

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 26 Jul 21 23:52
I honestly think Mexico and the others are trolling anyway because no one is that willfully stupid in regards to them still debating you.. ffs

Normies/Sheep whatever you wanna call them have gone quiet but continue to carry on listening to the propaganda and complying with it all because they think complying = back to normal, fair enough but you ain't going back to normal

Whereas trolls will just lead you round and round and round on a vicious cycle
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 26 Jul 21 23:54
Everything we said last year has come to pass but they still continue to regurgitate the stupid propaganda about numbers and "science"

Remember them saying #itsjustamask and #flattenthecurve...
By:
frog1000
When: 27 Jul 21 12:09
By October, we'll be looking back at pandemic': Professor Neil Ferguson reveals the 'equation has changed' after Covid cases fell for SIXTH DAY in row - as experts suggest the Euros could've HELPED immunise thousands who wouldn't have got vaccine

'Professor Lockdown' Neil Ferguson today raised hopes that the UK will be 'looking back' at the pandemic by October after Covid cases fell for a sixth day running.

The epidemiologist said the effect appeared to be 'real' and the R number could be slightly below one - although he cautioned that the situation is still very uncertain and there might be more spikes.

He suggested the dip was down to the end of the Euros football tournament and warmer weather meaning people were mixing indoor less.

Prof Ferguson said there could be 'uncertainty' into the Autumn, but stressed that the calculations had 'fundamentally' changed due to vaccines.

'I'm positive that by late September, October time, we will be looking back at most of the pandemic,' he said.

'We'll still have Covid with us, we'll still have people dying from Covid, but we will put the bulk of the pandemic behind us.'

Experts have suggested that high numbers of young people catching the disease during the Euros could have helped to squash the latest peak, as they now have some immunity and otherwise may not have been vaccinated. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9829585/Ministers-plead-calm-Covid-cases-fall-SIX-DAYS-running.html
By:
frog1000
When: 27 Jul 21 12:11
That is the view of your expert modeller that caused the panic in March 2020 causing the initial dangerous lockdowns.

He has changed his mind within two weeks of claiming we will see 100k-200k cases a day as we reopen.

The reason for the revision.... hot weather and the Euros - both of which were known 2 weeks ago... so why was it not in his model for 100k-200k?

What a JOKE.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Jul 21 12:14
They could have let it rip through the young months ago but wouldn't, now it seems letting them mix is beneficial. What a bunch of guessers.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 12:17
We waited a month or two longer so more people in the older population could be vaccinated. Whether you agree with that approach or not, it is not difficult to understand the logic behind it.
By:
politicspunter
When: 27 Jul 21 12:18
not difficult at all
By:
frog1000
When: 27 Jul 21 12:19
Ferguson predicted an increase from 50k a day to 100k-200k cases a day.

Reality cases fall from 50k a day to 25k a day.

This puts into question all his forecasts and claims that lockdowns 'cause' cases to fall.

Anyone who cannot see this must be blind.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 12:20
Are modellers not allowed to change their opinions based on new information ? Be a pretty stupid modeller who didn't.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Jul 21 12:20
There have been better guessers on the racing forum who all went skint.
By:
frog1000
When: 27 Jul 21 12:21

Jul 27, 2021 -- 6:20AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


Are modellers not allowed to change their opinions based on new information ? Be a pretty stupid modeller who didn't.


What is the new information JTG? A Euro surge? Hot weather in summer?

By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 12:23
Seem to remember a 'scare' death number of 20,000 being mentioned back at the start which seemed ridiculous at the time.

Falling cases Frog , after rapidly rising cases. It's not difficult.
By:
politicspunter
When: 27 Jul 21 12:23
Maybe insider trader can step into the future and tell us exactly what is going to happen?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 27 Jul 21 12:24
Frogit been consistently wrong
for 18 months

The Moneytree of covid
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 27 Jul 21 12:25
a man who doesn't change his view in light of new information has no place making decisions of any import.

in fact, I'd go further and suggest a man who doesn't change his view in light of new info belongs on internet message boards.  As information changes and his views become obviously wrong, he should change his user name to attempt to cling on to some sort of credibility.

that is all
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