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By:
dukeofpuke
When: 17 Jul 21 17:38
How do we get a test for natural immunity
By:
frog1000
When: 17 Jul 21 17:51

Jul 17, 2021 -- 10:22AM, Mexico wrote:


FrogIt is voluntary. Don’t have it if don’t fancy it.UK has decided on a different approach to get immunity in the under 18s. Seems to be going at some speed up to 50,000 a day with the potential to increase in next few weeks.


Do you have a single example of an under 18 that has died due to Covid?

By:
frog1000
When: 17 Jul 21 17:55
What provides better protection having a vaccine or having Covid?

Plently of people have caught it after having the vaccine. Marr, Savid, half the people in hospital.

But how many have caught Covid twice?
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Jul 21 17:58
frog1000 • July 17, 2021 4:21 PM BST
6 under 18s with no pre-existing conditions have died within 28 days of a positive covid test with no underlying conditions in English hospitals.

45 in total when you add underlying conditions.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:11
Why would you discount folk
with pre existing conditions.

Why not just count left handers

Sure there's some manipulation for numpties
to be had there.
By:
leif
When: 17 Jul 21 18:12
Died with, or because of Covid though?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:12
Maybe count folk who take
half sizes in shoes

Or who have ketchup on bacon sandwiches.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:14
Died with, or because of Covid though?


There's another gullible one,
By:
Aspro
When: 17 Jul 21 18:14
Who has ketchup? Has to be HP
By:
frog1000
When: 17 Jul 21 18:14
It seems likely to me with or without vaccines most people will end up being infected with Covid at some point now it is endemic.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:16
Well it depends Aspro

Whichever gi es the most
misleading result for the numpties
to promote
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:19
Deaths (28-day): 128,683

Died of covid 160,000

Died within 30 seconds of
eating a bacon sarnie with
ketchup on.. Not many

You know what to do, numpties
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Jul 21 18:21
Is this with white or brown bread?
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 17 Jul 21 18:23
Lab leak gaining traction .. Conspiracy ExcitedLaugh
By:
frog1000
When: 17 Jul 21 18:23
excess deaths been below normal for months on end.

the masker/lockdowners have no concept of risk management.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 18:23
Either, but long term results
awaited
By:
Tom Salt
When: 18 Jul 21 08:33
This worth lòoking at concerning ineffectiveness of masks
https://t.co/5rPK50ss5b
By:
Charlie
When: 18 Jul 21 09:14

Jul 18, 2021 -- 2:33AM, Tom Salt wrote:


This worth lòoking at concerning ineffectiveness of maskshttps://t.co/5rPK50ss5b


It is worth watching if you want to see someone making a fool of themselves.

Doctor with expired license falsely claims masks don’t work
https://factcheck.afp.com/doctor-expired-license-falsely-claims-masks-dont-work

No, a vaping demo doesn’t prove that masks don’t work against COVID-19
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/08/facebook-posts/no-vaping-demo-doesnt-prove-masks-dont-work-agains/

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By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Jul 21 09:26
Maybe the best procedure all along ( once we have vaccines) would be to have the general public go about life as normal unvaccinated and older and vulnerable vaccinated
By:
nineteen points
When: 18 Jul 21 09:46
more cases of jabbed getting it than unjabbed.how strange
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 18 Jul 21 12:28
What's strange about it 19 ?   (Be careful explaining , you might look foolish )
By:
nineteen points
When: 18 Jul 21 12:40
The chance of looking foolish when the likes of you,PP and Mexico are posting is nigh on impossible.
By:
Mexico
When: 18 Jul 21 12:49
19

I notice you haven’t bothered to answer JTG sensible question.

Care to actually explain why you believe it is “strange “. Perhaps you could even provide a link to your data source to shown the number of cases broken down by those with 2 vaccines against those who are unvaccinated?
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 18 Jul 21 13:14
If somebody wants to wear a mask, why should I or anybody else care , or even feel the need to comment ?
If you truly  believe in 'freedom of choice' then just let them get on with it.
By:
nineteen points
When: 18 Jul 21 13:15
JTG, totally agree.Same goes for those who dont want to as well.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 19 Jul 21 11:59
Trouble with calling people who support the watering of masks and who supported lockdowns “fanatics” is that this includes:

The vast majority of people in the U.K.
Almost every government in the world except the neo nazi imbecile in Brazil and for a while Trump
Most of the world’s scientists
Anyone with a few brains.

And of course nobody likes the virus or the measures taken to save lives. But most humane decent people like to see our most vulnerable citizens die young rather more.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 19 Jul 21 13:16
Unless you use a properly fitting surgical mask, that's designed to stop airborne particles then what's the point.

Many masks used are simply bits of cloth.
Even the medical masks widely used don't seal at the face, our breath just goes up the sides.

They're more accurately called comfort blankets.

Okay they might stop large particles of saliva, but how many people do you see coughing and spluttering?
And their breath will still get you even if they're wearing a massk.

Where have infection rates dropped after enforcement of wearing masks?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jul 21 13:17
Planet earth.
By:
frog1000
When: 26 Jul 21 10:23
So a week on from freedom day and cases are falling.

No sign of the 100,000 - 200,000 cases a day that the likes of Neil Ferguson and the Sage doomsters predicted.

We are just getting the normal pattern expected of rising and falling cases in waves that has happened throughout history before anyone ever thought of CCP style lockdowns.

How embarrassing for the scientists and Boris and all the MPs that have wrecked the economy and the health of the nation for ineffective and unnecessary lockdowns over the last 18 months.

It can never happen again.
By:
politicspunter
When: 26 Jul 21 10:33
The only reason cases are steady currently is because of the success of the governments vaccination programme.
By:
frog1000
When: 26 Jul 21 10:43
All the vaccination data (just over half UK population has had both jabs) BEFORE sage and Ferguson and the rest made their 100,000 to 200,000 cases a day prediction.

Cases rise and fall in waves.

It is how epidemics operate.

It does not matter if you lockdown like the UK and don't like Sweden.

The charts are always similar.

Sage and Ferguson have been exposed by the fact cases are not going up as they predicted - in fact they are thankfully going down.
By:
frog1000
When: 26 Jul 21 10:46
They will probably now try and backfit the data claiming school holidays, vaccines, previous Euro2020 surge etc caused the drop in cases.

But all things factors were know before they made their predictions.

Scientists cannot be trusted with predictions.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 21 10:53
Agree with frog1000.

Explains why the virus went into hiding last summer when there weren't any vaccines.
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 26 Jul 21 10:59
Agree  ..The NPHET model Crazy..  no predictions vaguely accurate by professionals
legal liability protections for vaccination programme yet?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 21 11:11
1470 UK deaths from Covid vaccines up until the 8 July.

https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports
By:
frog1000
When: 26 Jul 21 11:13
fake news site Dr C?
By:
Facts
When: 26 Jul 21 11:15
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57941113
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 21 11:18
Might be frog, this is the official one. I wonder if their figures are the same?

https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
By:
A_T
When: 26 Jul 21 11:19
1470 UK deaths from Covid vaccines up until the 8 July.


simply not true
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 21 11:28
The BBC website, shows a woman displaying that figure of 1470 deaths. Like it's bogus.

Strangly I can't see where they address that figure.




What's the true figure then A_T?
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