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By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 18:56
Boris out on his own with the lack of restrictions at the moment

every else seesm to be moving in the opposite direction
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 19:01
Yes - the eye's of the world are on the UK apparently.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 19:11
There's been a 500,000 drop off in tests for the past week and that's their stats and BS no one elses

That's how viruses work I guess, they go up, up, up... then say bye bye see you in a month Crazy
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 19:12
They know what time it is, they know what gender to attack etc

Its something to behold I give you that
By:
nineteen points
When: 27 Jul 21 19:16
They also know when your standing up or sitting down,inside or outside and whether your at a footy match or church.

Still no reply from mex and his little covid gang.i always know when i am right as they change the subject.

More lockdowns brought more cases
More muzzles brought more cases.

FACT..
By:
politicspunter
When: 27 Jul 21 19:19
Lol, it's the forum sponging parasite.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 19:20
Correlation does not mean causation 19.
You make the same mistake over and over and over....It's lesson 1 in basic statistics.
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 20:22
19

You seem to live in a one dimensional monochrome world.
Are you aware there are plenty of possibilities between 0% effective and 100% effective.


If a vaccine is 80% effective does that mean it works or doesn’t work?
If a mask reduces transmission by 30% does that mean they do work or don’t work?


If you care about others then have a vaccine. You don’t need to have one, there are plenty of people who are too scared or selfish to have vaccine. That is fine, it isn’t compulsory.
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 20:29
19

Your sill mantra is completely wrong.

In March-June 2020 we had lockdown, cases fell.
In September/October we had schools open, universities open, pubs open and cases rose
In November we had 4 week lockdown & cases fell.
In December we had things open with Boris’s let it rip tier system and cases rose.
In January to March we had strict social distancing restrictions and cases fell.
From May we had schools open, pubs open, restaurants open and cases rose.

Before vaccine, whenever we had stricter social distancing the cases fell, when things opened we had cases rising. Thanks to the 90% responsible freedom loving hero’s we can open up.


Still why let evidence get in the way of a silly mantra.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:34
yes it is
By:
nineteen points
When: 27 Jul 21 20:37
Same garbled sh!te from shep,larry and mo

just for once,please just give me an answer which is true.not your robotic readymade mantra, your programmed blinkered twaddle
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:40
mexico you are cherry picking cause and effect examples

you are making the numbers fit your argument by excluding other factors

the rise in May was primarily due to the delta variant, not opening up, at least that's what Whitty told us
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:44
people like mexico are beyond redemption

they are like brainwashed cult members

cases falling - which goes against every prediction - and still they cling to the orthodoxy
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:45
mexico what would make you lose faith in Whitty and Valance?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 20:47
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-data-shows-vaccines-reduce-risk-of-hospitalisation-and-death-but-you-need-to-read-it-with-a-clear-head-12365728

Mex, PP, Johnny Be Goode

Even your own sodding MSM pieces are telling you

Jesus Christ!
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 20:48
Giuseppe

The delta variant was around well before May opening. There were calls that Greatly Manchester should move as cases already rising even though only outdoor dining, shops open etc.


All the evidence before vaccines points to social distancing reduces infections, opening up increases infections.

Now UK has over 90% adults with antibodies. Well done to everybody who values freedom, health , others and themselves .
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 20:49
Forget the spin they stick in, they've had to admit it

They try to dress it up as it keeping the numbers down, the numbers have always been that ffs,
By:
frog1000
When: 27 Jul 21 20:51

Jul 27, 2021 -- 5:12PM, Mexico wrote:


Benny Don’t have the vaccine if you are too scared of the consequences. It isn’t compulsory.Meanwhile 90% of the adults in UK are helping the country out of social distancing restrictions. The vast majority value freedom.


Are you for real?

You do realise that after 6 months the Pfizer vaccine only reduces your chance of getting Covid by 18%?

The vaccine is for YOU. The taker. To stop serious illness and death. It is irrelevant to you who else takes it.

As vaccine takers we can still catch and spread Covid.

By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 20:55
Ss

Good link.

Doesn’t  the article suggest that vaccines are working very well? Doing exactly what it says on the tin?



But reducing something considerably is not the same as eliminating it. So, for instance, before getting vaccinated the chances of a 90-year-old catching and dying of COVID-19 were estimated to be roughly 2.8%.
After getting the jabs, the chances of the same illustrative 90-year-old catching and dying the disease are reduced to around 0.14%.
It's a very big reduction, but that jabbed 90-year-old nonetheless faces a roughly similar risk profile as an unjabbed 60-year-old (0.12%).





Isn’t it good news that vaccine can reduce death for eldest group with Covid from 2.8% to 0.14%?
Plus there is evidence that vaccines reduce transmission.
The headline is about people with one or two doses so some of those will have lower protection rate.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:56
mexico the rise from May onwards was blamed on the higher transmissibility of the delta variant

nobody in the media was saying "AngryAngryAngryAngry we need to shut down again"

they were saying "AngryAngryAngryAngry dangerously contagious Indian variant please get vaccinated"

what part of that are you disputing?
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 20:57
Happy to read the link frog.
You forgot to provide a link to the 18% information.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 20:57
why was Whitty etc not calling for a return to restictions after May? if that was the main cause?
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Jul 21 21:01
Giuseppe

You are doing it again.

Are you aware that many things are happening at once which has an effect.

In May we had easing of restrictions, a new variant from our open borders approach, more people getting vaccinated, further restrictions on international travel.
The rise in cases in May did put initial plan back 4 weeks.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 21:04
The vaxxine is doing jack from their own numbers

The numbers were the same in March...
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:06
Are you for real Giuseppe ?  The vaccine is a much more efficient way of protecting against the virus than a blanket lockdown.
Good job for the likes of you that the vaccine came along and millions took theirs up. There would be nothing going on over the winter if we hadn't.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 21:06
If the vaxxine is so "effective" why would you care about the unvaxxed being "selfish" and "murderers"

Is it effective or not? please hurry up and make your mind up
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:07
About 90% effective , but you can't seem to grasp what that means.

Is 10% ineffective any clearer ?
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 27 Jul 21 21:09
Decade of vaccines .. Billy G said so ! Comply or else the bots will eat you
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:12
Mum had the Doc pumped me full of them when I was a kid , in my arm , butt , on a spoon. Still fitting fit shiny.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:13
fighting Laugh
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 27 Jul 21 21:15
Oh its 90% effective today

Come back tomorrow when we're back to being selfish murderers
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 27 Jul 21 21:22
Johnny The Guesser • July 27, 2021 5:38 PM BST
But you expect a normal life pre world pandemic to be the exactly the same as a normal life as we start to emerge from the pandemic. The world has changed
Not so. 0nly 1\2% of the poorer countries have access to the "mircle" jab.
The world changes when your masters say so.
Tagged.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:23
How effective do you think it is ?...and you won't answer...more smoke mirrors and ambiguity.
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 27 Jul 21 21:23
Yet we are hanging kids first ,and boosters Confused
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 27 Jul 21 21:24
*Jabbing kids.typo
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Jul 21 21:28
When does your world change then shiny ? Same time as mine I reckon, maybe later.
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 27 Jul 21 21:31
What's the rush to be like China

Don't you like privacy , freedom, society ?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 21:35
"You are doing it again. Are you aware that many things are happening at once which has an effect.

In May we had easing of restrictions, a new variant from our open borders approach, more people getting vaccinated, further restrictions on international travel. The rise in cases in May did put initial plan back 4 weeks."

so why are you quoting rising numbers in May as support for your "opening up leads to higher numbers" hypothesis?

and why weren't Whitty and experts on Sky etc saying "the rise is due to many things"

they weren't saying that, they were blaming the delta variant

this is all post facto

time and again these guys are getting it wrong
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 21:37
very few deaths in China shiny

only 4,600

they must be doing something right

maybe we should all be eating more rice?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 27 Jul 21 21:38
it already has changed johnny

March 2020 was the last time you could freely walk into a bar in Dublin and order a pint

who knows when we will be able to do that again?

2023 perhaps?
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