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17 Jul 21 09:12
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The first news story on the Beeb and other lefty media .......quite correctly.

However I don't recall the horrendous floods that regularly hit countries like Bangladesh receiving this level of coverage ......

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By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Jul 21 09:14
Perhaps because in that climate, seasonal floods are normal?
By:
sageform
When: 17 Jul 21 11:30
possibly pp but it is more to do with where the main news networks have reporters.
By:
GAZO
When: 17 Jul 21 12:11
they will need those news reporters there a long time because for those people as soon as they are out of sight they are out of mind for governments
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jul 21 12:18
Bangladesh floods were big news
back in the 70s.

Earthquakes and volcanoes are other
random news stories where one gains
traction from time to time, whilst others
are ignored.

Dog bites too, were big news from time to time

Easy news stories that create an interest
that happen all the time,... If you
need a story.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 19 Jul 21 10:05
Funny how the global warming monkeys in denial seem to just brush of all the mounting evidence of global warming. Canadians melting in the heat. Western Europe under flood water. Record temperatures occurring regularly, and even the scientist getting bungs from Big Oil struggling to mount any sensible argument.

Of course the intellectual prowess of Timber and his chums will not accept this self evident facts and fight all measures aimed at protecting the planet. But then there are still some going on about fake moon landings, the CIA being behind 9/11 and Elvis being found in his Ford Cortina on the moon. I wonder what the correlation is between supporters of Donald Trump and supporters of warming the planet even more is. Very high I would say. 1.0000001
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jul 21 10:08
Trump is their messiah.

A man struggling with dementia
, wearing nappies, and they take
his word as gosple.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 19 Jul 21 22:23
Heat wave over Arctic Russia with temperatures 10 degrees higher than usual and millions of hectares now on fire. Permafrost being destroyed, eco systems being destroyed and the whole show generally completely stuffed.

But global warming is a well known liberal left wing hoax organised by the same people who believe in vaccination and conned us into thinking Elvis is dead.
By:
sageform
When: 20 Jul 21 10:02
I really don't see how this can be categorised as left or right. My view of left wing is socialism, high taxes, state control, not pro or anti vaccines or climate science. It all boils down to the balance between being told what to do by a "Government" and deciding for yourself. I am pro personal choice on the whole but anti big government, big business, "woke" society rules and regulations for the sake of them etc. but as I get older, I do see the point in road speed limits which are more restrictive than Covid19 restrictions but are more widely accepted if less well observed.
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 10:09
It isn't really a left or right wing issue, fully agree. There is only a small loud internet fringe of people who are under the illusion of being conservatives who claim climate change is a hoax.

The split between right/left/liberal (classical european liberalism) is between the amount of regulation needed, if maybe you subsidize/punish and to what extend you do it...or if you think the free market will get it done all by itself through e.g technological advancement.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 10:21
There is only a small loud internet fringe of people who are under the illusion of being conservatives who claim climate change is a hoax.

Never met anyone like that. They'd be denying the evidence of the temperature records.

Perhaps you havent explained very well.

And how do you know they're all conservatives?
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 10:28
They are not conservatives.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 10:37
So you're suggesting that they're socialists?
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 10:42
No
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 10:49
Not conservatives
Not socialists

So if you claim to know what their politics are not.

Would you share with us, what their politics are?
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 11:01
Sadly you have used up this year's quota of questions allotted to you.

Going forward, next year, maybe be smarter instead of asking completely silly questions like

"And how do you know they're all conservatives?"

after someone had explicitly said they are people who are under the illusion of being conservatives. You would still have had a question left then.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 11:07
So you made it all up.

We got there in the end.
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 11:11
No. That might have been your reason why you told me yesterday that I had used up my allotted questions, but it's not my reason. Don't always project yourself and your reasons onto others.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 11:16
Well that's my style you're using there  ''allotted questions''

Although I'll forgive you - as they say '' imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.''
By:
edy
When: 20 Jul 21 11:17
You do have some rather ok ideas at times. They generally need a lot of improvement, but I can use them as a base.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jul 21 11:17
I seem to have  recruited another fan, edy, welcome to my club.
By:
sofaking
When: 20 Jul 21 16:25

Jul 19, 2021 -- 5:23PM, cryoftruth wrote:


Heat wave over Arctic Russia with temperatures 10 degrees higher than usual and millions of hectares now on fire. Permafrost being destroyed, eco systems being destroyed and the whole show generally completely stuffed.But global warming is a well known liberal left wing hoax organised by the same people who believe in vaccination and conned us into thinking Elvis is dead.


The real "climate change deniers" are those who deny that earth's climate has been changing all on its own for billions of years. Human intervention has very little to do with it.  Solar cycles and a "moon wobble" are far more responsible for recent extreme weather events.

By:
sofaking
When: 20 Jul 21 16:28
But these leftist lunatics will use recent weather events as an excuse to tax the crap out of us, shut down the meat industry (and have us eating lab-grown "meat" (soy) and bugs) and impose "climate lockdowns". Angry
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Jul 21 16:33
But these leftist lunatics will use recent weather events as an excuse to tax the crap out of us

So just how will they do that when there is a Conservative Government?
By:
sofaking
When: 20 Jul 21 16:39
Lol. you think the UK government is "conservative". What are they conserving?  Boris is just a puppet and will do exactly as instructed by his hidden-hand overlords. Surely the last eighteen months has taught you that.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Jul 21 16:47
Wink

In name and the Socialists are all for privatisation!

The best rapper in the World was White

The best golfer in the World was Black

The Germans were proposing peace but the Italians are still running!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Jul 21 16:48
Still feathering their nest's though £££££

Some things never changeWink

Guy Fawkes had the right idea!
By:
sageform
When: 20 Jul 21 16:50
There is only one thing that will reduce carbon emissions and that is a big reduction in the human population. Without shooting or gassing people that will take a long time. A few rich countries like UK might manage to reduce emissions per head slightly but more than half of the world are only just getting started on consumerism.
By:
Charlie
When: 20 Jul 21 16:52
sofaking • July 20, 2021 5:25 PM BST

The real "climate change deniers" are those who deny that earth's climate has been changing all on its own for billions of years.
Who is denying that the earth's climate has been changing for billions of years?

Human intervention has very little to do with it
What exactly do you mean by it?

Solar cycles and a "moon wobble" are far more responsible for recent extreme weather events.
Says who apart from you?
By:
sofaking
When: 20 Jul 21 16:53

Jul 20, 2021 -- 11:50AM, sageform wrote:


There is only one thing that will reduce carbon emissions and that is a big reduction in the human population. Without shooting or gassing people that will take a long time. A few rich countries like UK might manage to reduce emissions per head slightly but more than half of the world are only just getting started on consumerism.


I have a better idea. Cover all active volcanoes with a concrete sarcophagus. That will reduce C02 emissions greatly.

By:
Charlie
When: 20 Jul 21 17:41
As sofaking seems to have fallen asleep on his sofa I'll refer you to NASA discussing solar cycles and moon wobble:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/study-projects-a-surge-in-coastal-flooding-starting-in-2030s

As in the title it refers to coastal flooding but the important part is that those two things (solar cycles and moon wobble) are combining with rising sea-levels due to the planet warming; they wouldn't be a problem without rising sea levels.
By:
Charlie
When: 21 Jul 21 18:02
Add floods in China to the list.
By:
sofaking
When: 21 Jul 21 18:34

Jul 20, 2021 -- 12:41PM, Charlie wrote:


As sofaking seems to have fallen asleep on his sofa I'll refer you to NASA discussing solar cycles and moon wobble: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/study-projects-a-surge-in-coastal-flooding-starting-in-2030sAs in the title it refers to coastal flooding but the important part is that those two things (solar cycles and moon wobble) are combining with rising sea-levels due to the planet warming; they wouldn't be a problem without rising sea levels.


There is very little evidence of sea levels rising significantly and none of the catastrophic predictions from the likes of Al Gore have ever come true. Billionaires are still purchasing enormous ocean-front properties. You'd think these properties would be uninsurable due to the imminent rising sea levels but nope. Just about everything they're telling you about climate change is absolute b0ll0x. We've also had record cold temperatures around the world recently but that doesn't quite fit the "man-made climate change" narrative.  Crop losses due to cold and wet weather will be a huge issue in the coming years due to solar cycles and the Grand Solar Minimum.

By:
Charlie
When: 21 Jul 21 19:00
Solar cycles generally do nothing/little to affect the earth's climate.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/solar-events-news/Does-the-Solar-Cycle-Affect-Earths-Climate.html

The Grand Solar Minimum will do nowt disasterous.
https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2953/there-is-no-impending-mini-ice-age/

There is very little evidence of sea levels rising significantly.
Tell that to NASA as they seem to think they are rising.

We've also had record cold temperatures around the world recently but that doesn't quite fit the "man-made climate change" narrative.
You don't seem to grasp the concept of climate change do you. Record record cold temparatures are entirely consistent with extreme weather.

Would you like to post any supporting evidence to your claims or is that asking too much?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jul 21 19:04
You don't understand Charlie.

These people think Chump won the Election and Global Warming is a liberal media invention.
By:
mitolo
When: 21 Jul 21 19:36
yes, move along, nothing to see here. its a hoax. put about by 99% of geologists marine biologists agronomists ecologists chemists meteorologists, and a few other ologists i cant remember. is that right?

the whole climate change thing that appears to producing once-in-a-lifetime events every week is purely a part of the earths natural cycle and we should stop bothering about it is the theory, or more accurately, lack of one, of people like the sofa and crippen. they say its all about money, because all these scientists have been bribed to betray their own work, for a few quid. that sounds good.

or is it that people who have dedicated their lives to in-depth study of these things have formed an opinion, based on what scientific knowledge we have(and its limited, given the unprecedented nature of what we are witnessing worldwide) that climate change is potentially a looming catastrophe and we are close to being at the point of no return?

i will take 1.03 the latter. but we are howling at the moon unless we stop its fountainhead, which is now asia, particularly china, and to a lesser extent, india. there are no laws against spoliation in china, as long as the ccp can profit. it is a human and ecological catastrophe. if europe disappeared tomorrow, it wouldnt matter. of the 25 most filthy cities in the world, 23 are in china.

next time you meet an xr campaigner, tell them they are in the wrong country. i encountered an xr 'roadblock' in norf london and tried to explain they should be outside the chinese embassy, but they didnt like the sound of that. a bit to real maybe.
By:
sofaking
When: 21 Jul 21 20:30
97% of "scientists" will agree with the people who are funding them. Their funding is completely contingent on them going along with the official narrative and anyone who strays will be ostracised from their scientific community and lose their funding.  And this guy provides links to NASA as if they're a reliable source of information.    You also believe that man landed on the moon (240,000 miles away) over fifty years ago when Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos made big news recently after a "historic" visit to "space"?  In reality they were only 50 miles above the surface of earth. Laugh
By:
mitolo
When: 21 Jul 21 20:53
ooo. you are good. where do you live? i want to meet you. or i will fund your travel. to anywhere. magnificent.
By:
sageform
When: 22 Jul 21 09:39
Human behaviour is having an effect which is accelerating climate change but the fossil record shows cycles of tropical climates and ice ages in UK millions of years before humans evolved. UK once had a land bridge to France so the sea must have risen a bit! I am of the school of thought that believes that weather cycles will happen regardless of humans but that our habits have added another separate factor to the natural climate changes. Climate scientists have a patchy history though. I have lived through a) 1963 and b) 1976, after both of those we were informed with utter certainty by scientists that after a) the earth was cooling down and would continue to do so and b) summer drought and water rationing would be a permanent part of daily life.
By:
Charlie
When: 22 Jul 21 12:52
I'm not bothered what happened millions of years ago it is not relevant today. Man made climate change has only been a problem in the last 200 years or so since the industrial revolution.

It's a bit of a myth that in the 60's and 70' scientists were saying with utter certainty that the earth was cooling down; there were some sensational headlines and some scientists did believe that but by far the greater number (6:1) believed the earth was warming. There are lots of articles about this eg:

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s?
https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-intermediate.htm

Climate myths: They predicted global cooling in the 1970s
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11643-climate-myths-they-predicted-global-cooling-in-the-1970s/


As regarding drought that is the way it's going.
Creeping toward Permanent Drought
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/hot-planet/creeping-toward-permanent-drought/

Changing climate: 10 years after An Inconvenient Truth
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/changing-climate-10-years-after-inconvenient-truth


What perplexes me is why some people still refuse to acknowledge climate change is happening despite the overwhelming scientific data and inumerable reports of extreme weather events happening now.
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