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By:
clouded leopard
When: 11 Jul 21 10:33
Laugh

Looking more and more like a 'decade of vaccines'


Sure that was mentioned somewhere before  Crazy
By:
clouded leopard
When: 11 Jul 21 10:37
NEW YORK -- The World Health Organization (WHO), UNICEF, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have announced a collaboration to increase coordination across the international vaccine community and create a Global Vaccine Action Plan.  This plan will build on the successes of current work to achieve key milestones in the discovery, development and delivery of lifesaving vaccines to the most vulnerable populations in the poorest countries over the next decade.


The collaboration follows the January 2010 call by Bill and Melinda Gates for the next ten years to be the Decade of Vaccines.  The Global Vaccine Action Plan will enable greater coordination across all stakeholder groups – national governments, multilateral organizations, civil society, the private sector and philanthropic organizations -- and will identify critical policy, resource, and other gaps that must be addressed to realize the life-saving potential of vaccines.


The structure of the Decade of Vaccines Collaboration includes a Leadership Council to provide oversight for the planning effort, a Steering Committee that holds the primary responsibility for developing the action plan, an International Advisory Committee to assist the Leadership Council in evaluating the action plan, and a Secretariat for administrative support.


Prof. Pedro Alonso, Director for the Institute for Global Health of Barcelona and Dr. Christopher Elias, President and CEO of PATH, have been appointed co-chairs of the Steering Committee and the Secretariat.


“Vaccines are miracles,” said Prof. Alonso, “For just a few dollars per child, vaccines prevent disease and disability for a lifetime. We must make sure that people understand that vaccines are one of the best investments in health.”                                                             

The Leadership Council is comprised of:

Dr. Margaret Chan, Director General of WHO;
Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, Director of NIAID, part of the National Institutes of Health;
Mr. Anthony Lake, Executive Director for UNICEF;
Ms. Joy Phumaphi, Chair of the International Advisory Committee and Executive Secretary, African Leaders Malaria Alliance
Dr. Tachi Yamada, President of Global Health at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation;
By:
clouded leopard
When: 11 Jul 21 10:38
Vaccines are miracles guys

Don't forget that Cool
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Jul 21 10:42
They sure are.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Jul 21 12:23
We're up to four jabs already this year.

Two jabs for Covid.
One booster jab for Covid.
The flu jab.

The medical supply and pharmaceutical industry are well represented on every ruling medical board. Which ensures maximum use of their products.

So it goes without saying that they will over medicate to the extreme. With any opposition to this policy getting shouted down.
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 11 Jul 21 13:38
July 11, 2021 10:33 AM BST
ExcitedLaugh
Billy
Decade of vax.
Health i.d. Excited
control Water , land
Reform cash to digital
Green everything
Know your customer
China social credit score
Surveillance overload

forward thinking Billy (the messiah) Cry
Jesus wept Angry
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 11 Jul 21 15:15
We're up to four jabs already this year.

The medical supply and pharmaceutical industry are well represented on every ruling medical board. Which ensures maximum use of their products.

So it goes without saying that they will over medicate to the extreme. With any opposition to this policy getting shouted down.


Agree with Dr Crippen. The aim of bigpharma like Glaxo is not to eradicate illness but to manage it. Success - to them - is lifetime dependency. That's the unstated goal of a product like the Oxford vaccine.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 11 Jul 21 15:15
^
yes


keep a watchful eye on the US inflation numbers popping up next Tuesday too
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Jul 21 15:16
Whats the relevance please?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 16:55
Vaccines are one of the cheapest medical products you can find, many of which also only have to be administered once a life or every decade or so.

Some of them have rid the planet of diseases like chickenpox. Others, like measles, had been basically eradicated in a lot of western countries until the internet came around and the homeopathy crowd got to spread myths about them because they wanted to sell herbal mixtures at high prices to the vulnerable Crippens of this planet.

One dose of the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccines is sold for less than 5 quid. Treatment, especially in hospital, costs hundreds, if not thousands of times that amount. With the amount of serious cases the vaccines are going to prevent vaccination is a hell of a lot cheaper than the alternative.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 16:55
Not to speak of the invaluable lives the vaccines are saving.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 11 Jul 21 17:04
I'm a Believer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB9YIsKIEbA
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:12
"many of which also only have to be administered once a life or every decade or so."

lol
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:13
edy

parents used to deliberately expose their kids to chickenpox

it had the same effect as a vaccine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 11 Jul 21 17:16
Nobody is saying vaccines are not a good thing, edy (if they are, I'm not on their side).

What Dr Crippen is referring to is the business model of perpetual ongoing protection.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Jul 21 17:22
vaccines are a religion to people like edy, so anything that could be perceived to be critical of them in any way whatsoever is sacrilege and anti vax.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:24
What is "lol" about that sentence? For many vaccines there is no lifetime reliance of having to get booster shots in quick succession, or booster shots at all after initial vaccination.

Pox Parties (used for chickenpox):

A) Did not get rid of chickenbox, unlike vaccines
B) Are vastly more dangerous than getting the vaccine. Frankly, every parent that purposefully exposed their child to chickenpox while the vaccine was available....should not be a parent for much longer. Same with purposefully exposing your child to measles, polio and what have you if vaccination is available.

UB:

I'm not sure he is really just referring to that.

Either way, I am certain that cost to society for covid-19 would be far bigger without products like the Oxford vaccine. Especially in a country that mostly uses private hospitals. That is not the case in the UK, but you can still vaccinate a whole lot of people for the costs of treating just one single person for covid.

Cider:

Becoming more unhinged by the day I see.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:25
The strawman is becoming stronger and stronger in you too, the more unhinged you become, Cider. It's the voices.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:27
the lol was the implicit suggestion that the covid vaccines may also be once in a lifetime
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Jul 21 17:28
Don't feed the troll chaps.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:28
Don't listen to the hypocritical chief troll.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:29
chickenpox wasn't a big problem in our society

kids who got it weren't badly affected

really, there wasn't a big problem there that needed to be solved
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:30
"vastly more dangerous than getting the vaccine. Frankly, every parent that purposefully exposed their child to chickenpox while the vaccine was available....should not be a parent for much longer"

isn't this a bit over the top?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:30
No
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Jul 21 17:30
Take a couple of Polo mints, and you'll be as right rain.

Polo mints - the mints with the hole.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:31
You are a danger to your child and have proven that you lack any sense of risk management regarding your child.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Jul 21 17:31
as right as rain.

Hmm, I'd better take a couple myself.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:31
"For many vaccines there is no lifetime reliance of having to get booster shots in quick succession, or booster shots at all after initial vaccination."

I wonder will this be the offcial advice regarding covid vaccines Confused
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:32
There is every chance that the vast majority of people won't be advised to get regular booster shots for covid, yes.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:32
"risk management"

does chickenpox poses a big risk for a child?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:32
That the vaccination from one or two courses lasts a long time in most people.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:33
I actually meant smallpox
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 11 Jul 21 17:33
Sure edy, the product is great but political/business considerations will determine its ongoing use.

A scientific product that erases the need for its existence is really of no use to the Oxford group, or others in the same game.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:37
The smallpox vaccine begs to differ.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:40
they didn't do parties for smallpox

they did them for measles and chickenpox

smallpox is a horrible disease
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:40
you're going to get scarring at least, if you get smallpox
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 21 17:41
This is not my native language, pardon me for confusing the English pox terminology.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 11 Jul 21 17:42
edy what you need to rememember is the hysteria over covid

we have never had hhysteria like this before

covid is being tested and studied like no other disease

and any potential problem is reported in the media

if vaccine protection does fade, there will be pressure to start vaxxing again
By:
eyeball
When: 11 Jul 21 17:46
Smallpox is neither a respiratory or zoonotic virus and is transmitted by close contact .
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