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An Important Message before Sunday

Our England senior men’s team will today begin their EURO 2020 campaign at our home, Wembley Stadium.

Major tournaments don’t come around often and when they do, it’s an opportunity to unite friends, families and the country. This collective support is what spurs our team on during challenging moments and it gives them the best chance of succeeding.

As the team has reiterated many times, they will collectively take the knee ahead of their fixtures during the tournament.

They are doing this as a mechanism of peacefully protesting against discrimination, injustice, and inequality. This is personally important to the players and the values the team collectively represents.

This gesture of unity and fighting against inequality can be traced back as far as the 18th century. It is not new, and English football has made it very clear that it does not view this as being aligned to a political organisation or ideology. There can be no doubt as to why the players are taking the knee and what it represents in a footballing context.

We encourage those who oppose these values to reflect on the message you are sending to the players you are supporting.

Please respect their wishes and remember that we should all be united in the fight to tackle discrimination. Together.
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Report clouded leopard June 15, 2021 9:50 PM BST
what do you bet on ?
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 9:58 PM BST
mainly goals
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:01 PM BST
It’s maths that’s all , everything is even things you might not expect like music
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:22 PM BST
If only it was as simple as that :(
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:28 PM BST
lfc only one woman has ever made the cut in a PGA event and that was in the 1940s
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:32 PM BST
porcy

the british education system is ****

if kids watch tv and see victorian britain full of brown people then they will think medieval britain was actually full of brown people

what was the name of the costume drama set in regency england with all the black actors?

go on twitter and you will find people defending it

doctor who had an episode in london during the napoleonic wars, full of black soldiers in redcoats, where the doctor literally says "it's a lot more black than they show in the movies"
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:33 PM BST
troy was full of black greeks

and you have historians defending it
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:35 PM BST
Do we repaint all depictions of Jesus in Italian churches?
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:35 PM BST
To give him a bit more of a tan.
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:36 PM BST
"Man, if only there was some way conversations could be recorded for future generations. Maybe using a pen and paper. Damn, what a missed opportunity. "

lol

vernacular spoken speech was rarely recorded

research "literary languages"

and there are many question marks over pronunciation

we still don't know for sure how Romans pronounced veni vidi vici for example
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:37 PM BST
edy we'll do that when the ethiopians lighten their paintings

and we don;t know what jesus actually looked like

maybe like a modern palestinian?

or perhaps a syrian?

syrians aren;t very dark: look at assad
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:38 PM BST
"This black woman in the victorian show is making me so mad. This is inaccurate woke political correct oppression of white people!"

kids thinking victorian britain had black people is what makes people mad

britain has always been diverse
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:39 PM BST
Yeah then people have an anger problem.
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:39 PM BST
porcy what person would look at the little memrmaid and think "let's make her black"

what rational or artistic reason is there to do that?
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:40 PM BST
G, serious question were you a Trin, trin, graduate. Because you are up there. Love
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:41 PM BST
https://www.dw.com/en/the-little-mermaid-statue-in-copenhagen/a-18797561

Should have casted someone who had taken in a lot of colloidal silver imo to get close.
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:41 PM BST
For the hard of thinking, Trin trin = Trinity College Dublin.
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:42 PM BST
can't give too much info away foxy, or will have people banging down my front door
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:43 PM BST
Still having to hide from your creditors?
Report Giuseppe June 15, 2021 10:44 PM BST
also that, yes
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:45 PM BST

Jun 15, 2021 -- 4:43PM, edy wrote:


Still having to hide from your creditors?


edy, go wind up your sister, remember her, she's shackled in the celler.

Report edy June 15, 2021 10:48 PM BST
My japanese realdoll, which I consider my fiancee and not my sister (you fucking sick bastard), is charged by connecting it with a plug to the electricity, not by winding her up. She is not shackled either. I treat her well.
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:48 PM BST
Trinity College  Dublin is for the unionist students
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:49 PM BST
Not for a long time Lfc.
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:51 PM BST
Is that so foxy Sad
Report edy June 15, 2021 10:51 PM BST

Jun 15, 2021 -- 4:39PM, Giuseppe wrote:


porcy what person would look at the little memrmaid and think "let's make her black"what rational or artistic reason is there to do that?


A troll that wants to get some sillies real mad?

Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:52 PM BST
Even Oscar Wilde converted to Catholicism just before his death, I think the man from the PRU advised him. LaughLaughLaugh
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:54 PM BST

Jun 15, 2021 -- 4:51PM, lfc1971 wrote:


Is that so foxy


According to my sisters, graduates from the 80s.

Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:54 PM BST
Lol , Oscar was Anglo Irish , enniskillen i think
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:56 PM BST
I liked the idea of trinity Dublin being unionist , don’t know why just did
Everything changed
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 10:58 PM BST
Protestant students from the north would have gone there or Edinburgh or oxford/ Cambridge
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:58 PM BST
I love talkindgto you Lfc, his 'father was seen on many A Dark Knight on his black steed cloak flowing. racing through wild weather to attend to the sick'
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 10:59 PM BST
dark night, bloody speech to txt. Angry
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:00 PM BST
I like that , what is it ?
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:00 PM BST
txt*
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:03 PM BST
It's text lfc, from a book I read about him in the 80's, sorry my old brain (such as it is) can't remember. Sad
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:04 PM BST
Wilde probably
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:05 PM BST
No his father was a doctor before automobiles.
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:05 PM BST
His father was a surgeon
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:06 PM BST
Ah yes got it now Happy
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:06 PM BST
George Bernard Shaw's ready reckoner was one of the best books I've ever owned it had every quotation in there. Great stuff.
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:13 PM BST
I had to do Joyce at school can’t recall too much except a few lines from a short poem
The snow was general all over Ireland
Was falling softly upon the bog of Allen and further westwards
And in the churchyard etc ..
Very beautiful
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:15 PM BST
Don’t know why I remembered just that over all these years and nothing elseHappy
Report lfc1971 June 15, 2021 11:19 PM BST
What was this thread about again ? We’ve strayed
sorry
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:20 PM BST
I reluctantly went to the bog of Alan in Kildare in a mid summer evening, There were a trillion flies per sq mtr, what a sh** hole. LaughLaugh
Report boxingthefox June 15, 2021 11:22 PM BST

Jun 15, 2021 -- 5:19PM, lfc1971 wrote:


What was this thread about again ? We’ve strayed sorry


Don't worry the 'Wokes' are asleep. Laugh

Report edy June 15, 2021 11:39 PM BST
What are people afraid of happening in the UK if the kneeling is not beaten?

lfc, you are afraid of white kids having to stand up in class and apologise for being white. Anything else? Maybe something that has at least a tiny chance of actually happening?
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 12:02 AM BST
nothing much , my only fear now  is that this virus isn’t deadly enough to finish me off ! GrinSad
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 12:04 AM BST
goodnite
Report edy June 16, 2021 12:06 AM BST
C'mon lfc....there are so many more Liverpool titles and nice conversations with e.g boxingthefox on here to look forward to.
Report edy June 16, 2021 12:06 AM BST
and sleep tight!
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 12:24 AM BST
Yep you’re right edy just thank god for football and getting my second jab tomorrow as it happens so alls good , Happy
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 12:31 AM BST
If I don’t make it back they’ll just replace me with a few of those people from
the English Channel , lol
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 12:32 AM BST
nite nite
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 12:34 AM BST
lfc have you left me anything in your will?
Report edy June 16, 2021 12:34 AM BST
Giuseppe...
Report HGS June 16, 2021 12:35 AM BST
Laugh G

You always raise a smile for me
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 8:48 AM BST
Yes I would although being of sound mind I will have spent most of it on booze
and to Giuseppe who I told I would remember in my will , Hello Giuseppe !
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip June 16, 2021 9:17 AM BST
What are people afraid of happening in the UK if the kneeling is not beaten?

The fear for me is that it adds to the division. The dual fears that stopping kneeling is ‘a win’ for booers, or that stopping booing is ‘a win’ for kneelers are irrelevant for me
Report edy June 16, 2021 9:40 AM BST
...but how is it more divisive than other anti-racism gestures in reality for most people?

I realise there are some people desperate to link it to marxism and the other (often early) goals of specific BLM chapters that they read about in the dark corners of the internet, I've seen people tell me about that on here, but that's really a bit like saying allowing a footballer to send prayers to heaven after a goal will bring a theocratic dictatorship. As an atheist I can't get behind the footballers giving me these microaggressions about him supporting the symbolism of theocratic dictatorships.

...But at the end of the day, supporting specific goals/gestures of a movement or ideology, does not necessarily mean you support the full blown implementation of everything else of the most extreme version of the ideology available.

Just like someone supporting universal healthcare is unlikely to be a full blown commie with wet dreams about Cuba either, even if some politicians, especially in the USA, try to make that kinda claim.

It it obviously divisive to some people, but I really don't think it should be. There is a lot of unwarranted hysteria about it all. It's some virtue-signalling that will do very, very little for its actual cause. So they could stop tomorrow and it would be all the same on that front.

The main thing it does is trigger folks....and if people are being triggered by something like this, then it's fully worth doing it until all eternity. Use your right to offend.
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 9:43 AM BST
The difference is it can’t be ignored . If someone is preaching in church and you don’t want to hear it don’t go
That’s fine
Report edy June 16, 2021 9:45 AM BST
I can't ignore the footballer praying on the pitch right after the moment that is meant to be most joyous for me, but destroys the entire moment for me by shoving his religiousness down my throat. It's on full display.
Report edy June 16, 2021 9:46 AM BST
goal scored for my supported team
footballer does praying symbolism
edy pukes instead of being happy
Report edy June 16, 2021 9:48 AM BST
or footballer scores
footballer kisses flag on his jersey
marxist globalist edy pukes
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 9:48 AM BST
I don’t like players praying on the pitch either , don’t encourage such silly behaviour
Report bigpoppapump June 16, 2021 9:59 AM BST
Pleasegivemeanailedontip 16 Jun 21 08:17 
What are people afraid of happening in the UK if the kneeling is not beaten?

The fear for me is that it adds to the division. The dual fears that stopping kneeling is ‘a win’ for booers, or that stopping booing is ‘a win’ for kneelers are irrelevant for me


for one thing, there is no chance - not a cat in hell's chance - that the 'booers' will win this one.  The players are perfectly within their rights to stand together against racism, and you will not find a coherent argument to counter that.  The booers are being manipulated by racists.

nd anyway, don't we all win once racism protests are no longer necessary?

I mean, aside from guiseppe who doesn't even realise he lives in a multicultural society, we all want equality of opportunity for all don't we?  Nobody will openly admit that they think they should be favoured for jobs or housing or quality of education for their children or health care, because of accident of birth.

Confused

nobody is pro-racism are they?
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:04 AM BST
There is no such thing as accident of birth , so of course people are favoured in jobs , housing , health etc
And should be .
Report Aspro June 16, 2021 10:05 AM BST
I don't have issues with players praying. I consider myself agnostic, but try to respect all, unless they take it to extreme levels. I didn't mind the knee at first, but I do object to the continuation of it and especially the raising of the arm, which I feel is inciting.

The booers are being manipulated by racists

Not at all imo. They are tired are having it rammed down their throat and I would wager that the majority are not racist, but have understood the point, however, your next statement bigpoppapump is...

don't we all win once racism protests are no longer necessary?

Yes, that is true, but do you really believe that racism in the world can be eliminated? I doubt the UK could eliminate it entirely and we're one of the better countries.
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:09 AM BST
There is no racism in the U.K. ,  everyone has equal opportunity
So it’s a bit difficult to eliminate something that doesn’t exist
Report Aspro June 16, 2021 10:12 AM BST
I don't get your point there lfc. There is racism, both ways. Some people for reasons beyond my comprehension don't like blacks because they're black and I do know of a few black dudes who hate whites. That's racism... isn't it Confused
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:16 AM BST
Some people might be racist , so what that’s their way of thinking what business is it of anyone else ?
Report Aspro June 16, 2021 10:19 AM BST
But that contradicts what you said before "there is no racism in the UK"
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:22 AM BST
There isn’t any racism in the UK  ,  some individuals perhaps even everyone is racist to some extent
That’s how it should be .
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:24 AM BST
In the U.K. we have laws , don’t break the law , that’s best
Report Aspro June 16, 2021 10:26 AM BST
Born in 60's I grew up with it all around me and some of my friends have never shaken it off or learned to accept others. Good friends too, reliable and there if I need them and they accept that I'm not like that, so we get along and I ignore it, but I still see younger folk acting the same way. It's improving, but it will never cease entirely, or not until we've all mixed enough that racism is no longer a thing. That being said, something will come along to replace it.
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:28 AM BST
We’re quite reasonable in Britain , we know we might be a bit racist we can’t help that
But we also know we shouldn’t offend someone or be unkind
Our nature inclines us treat people well , and so we do
Report Aspro June 16, 2021 10:28 AM BST
Yep, that (again) I agree with Grin
Report bigpoppapump June 16, 2021 10:28 AM BST
lfc's trolling two different angles in the same breath  Laugh

there's both 'no racism in the UK' and 'everybody's racist'  Laugh  which is it?

lost your patience a bit there feller, a good fisherman will wait a bit longer.  your rod cant be in two places at once...
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:34 AM BST
Makes perfect sense , I know it’s subtle bigpop
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 10:35 AM BST
Have a think about it
Report bigpoppapump June 16, 2021 10:40 AM BST
yep, thought about it.

I have no idea why an adult would post:

lfc1971 16 Jun 21 09:22 
There isn’t any racism in the UK  ,  some individuals perhaps even everyone is racist to some extent
That’s how it should be .


Happy

serious note lfc: maybe get out and get some fresh air today?  it's nice and sunny.
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip June 16, 2021 11:48 AM BST
don't we all win once racism protests are no longer necessary?

Yes, id like to think most people agree that we want to get to a point where nobody cares. How many blonde CEOs are there? Nobody cares.

And its fine if we have to take a few steps backward to go forward, being more aware of differences and protesting that we arent moving forward fast enough is ok for now.

But those backward steps shouldnt be further backwards than necessary. If people have an excuse to doubt the aim of the protest then its not going to do its wider job of moving things forward as fast as possible. It seems like it would be very easy to make this current protest without the unnecessary doubts.
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 11:55 AM BST
We have to admit tall blonde Scandanavian women are the pinnicle of the evolutionary tree , natural selection no ?
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2021 11:56 AM BST
Pleasegivemeanailedontip are you walking backwards for Christmas across the Irish sea, Laugh.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJOEvt_goIc
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip June 16, 2021 12:02 PM BST
I've tried walking sideways,
And walking to the front,
But people just look at me,
And say it's a publicity stunt.


I had to google the lyrics i thought that last word was the C bomb Laugh
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2021 12:11 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh good man, Love
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 1:02 PM BST
Just back , 2nd vaccination done all’s good so far thankyou
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2021 1:02 PM BST
Wink
Report moisok June 16, 2021 2:11 PM BST
no booing again in this first match with finland  - how very strange ha haCrazy
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 2:55 PM BST
"Just back , 2nd vaccination done all’s good so far thankyou "

Sad
Report edy June 16, 2021 2:57 PM BST
Giuseppe, you can't make it so obvious. He'll remove you from his will otherwise.
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 2:58 PM BST
i just can't catch a break
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 2:59 PM BST
parents both survived their's too
Report edy June 16, 2021 3:03 PM BST
Shit, I'm terribly sorry to hear that.
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 3:06 PM BST
if you were really sorry you'd give me some money
Report edy June 16, 2021 3:13 PM BST
Ok, I lied. I'm actually happy your parents didn't die miserably from the vaccination.
Report Giuseppe June 16, 2021 3:15 PM BST
what about me edy

don't you care about me?
Report edy June 16, 2021 3:20 PM BST
I do care about you a lot, Giuseppe! How can you even ask that kind of question? I'd rather have you be gone today than tomorrow.
Report edy June 16, 2021 3:21 PM BST
Gone from this forum, not from the earth. Thought I'd make that clear to avoid confusion.
Report lfc1971 June 16, 2021 3:23 PM BST
Sorry Giuseppe all they will find is a note in the drawer ...
There is no money left Cool
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