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irishone
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Being recommended in Ireland
Based on Norwegian study showing greater blood clotting

Feck me
Have the world class scientists fecked up ?
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Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:28 PM GMT
Well someone somewhere is telling Porkies , how could they suspend on a figure of 1/400,000 As Stated the origin from a country where no one is Dying Laugh
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:30 PM GMT
it will not be suspended in the UK , This will cause a disaster world wide with people refusing any jab at all , at least most of our Vulnerable have been jabbed , People not listening to WHO Sad
Report Just Checking March 15, 2021 11:33 PM GMT
If it causes blood clots then administer it with something that stops blood clots. Job done.
Like, you know, milk a mosquito's mouth glands into it using tweezers. Something practical and hygenic.
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:36 PM GMT
Its 1 in 400,000 JC There is probably more chance of getting a blood clot from falling over Plain
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:40 PM GMT
Regardless of PRO or ANTI vax  these figures are beyond belief ,that is causing a worldwide ban
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:41 PM GMT
I have to start a seperate Thread Laugh Please read it
Report Giuseppe March 15, 2021 11:43 PM GMT
case there is more to this than most media outlets are reporting

it is a specific type of clot they are worried about

it is clear most reporters aren't aware of this
Report SontaranStratagem March 15, 2021 11:43 PM GMT
Its more than 25 and 28 LaughLaugh

Its so high they've had to suspend it and to keep calm they've claimed its extremely low ffs

But yeah its far higher than what they're claiming, otherwise they've be stopping the other vaccine as well
Report shiny new shoes please March 15, 2021 11:45 PM GMT
CrazyCrazy
Sicily reports 3 deaths shortly after vaccine
Report Giuseppe March 15, 2021 11:45 PM GMT
a lot "i'm baffled by this...it makes no sense" from pundits on tv

yes that's because they don't have all the details
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:45 PM GMT
https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-diseases-medicine/common-painkillers-can-cause-blood-clots/1374710

Yes the Nordics certainly have concerns about Blood Clots , NSAID , Ibuprofen  .. 

Have these been banned please ?
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:46 PM GMT
READ that G and tell me why Nurofen is still on sale ?
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:48 PM GMT
Let me STIPULATE once again There was 1 person a day Dying from CO-VID in Norway when they rang the supposed alarm ,an Alarm that may well lead to thousands of deaths .
Report Giuseppe March 15, 2021 11:48 PM GMT
i think norway have suspended using az too

NORWAY ISN'T IN THE EU
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:49 PM GMT
Many thousands Sad
Report Giuseppe March 15, 2021 11:50 PM GMT
why would norway care that az was british (actually british-swedish)

why would they do something like this for political reasons?
Report shiny new shoes please March 15, 2021 11:51 PM GMT
Casemoney can't accept its 22 countries and rising ..
Report shiny new shoes please March 15, 2021 11:52 PM GMT
may well be a benefit ..
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:52 PM GMT
I didnt say they were the EU , but for some unknown reason the EU seem to be more interested in what they were saying , than W.H.O

If there is truth is their previous Blood Clot Nsaid Major discovery , why are they available nationwide from any corner shop ?
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:55 PM GMT
I think stating that Many thousands will Die , covers a percentage of each of those nations not taking a Jab they could have had ? I will also add that a lot of Folks will refuse any JAB at all due to the fear being mongered about NOTHING Sad
Report shiny new shoes please March 15, 2021 11:55 PM GMT
Oxo is for soups not people
Ban inbound
I'd guess .. Protect the other vaccines
Report Dotchinite March 15, 2021 11:55 PM GMT
UK will stop it and everyone will have to start again. Of course that will mean big delay in rules lifting.
Report Foinavon March 15, 2021 11:57 PM GMT
A severe outbreak of political @rse covering is reaching epidemic proportions.
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:58 PM GMT
On that point I have nothing further to ADD  ,I have had 1 OXO jab and I will have another ,the only Signals I need from the Artic are the Northern Lights , thank you and god bless you all .
Report casemoney March 15, 2021 11:59 PM GMT
UK will stop it and everyone will have to start again. Of course that will mean big delay in rules lifting.

Be a lot of Blood clots going on from people heads being hit with Trunctions .
Report shiny new shoes please March 16, 2021 12:01 AM GMT
Learn from Ireland
Less than 8% jabbed... All over 75..
0000000000000000 morality
ExcitedLaugh
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 12:02 AM GMT
Iceland, Norway, both not in EU
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 12:03 AM GMT
and as has already been pointed out, the US still hasn't approved AZ
Report shiny new shoes please March 16, 2021 1:34 AM GMT
Get Over Here
Scorpion wine
Fatality
Thailand suspends use..
Report shiny new shoes please March 16, 2021 1:36 AM GMT
Mortal Kombat
Purgue
Report SontaranStratagem March 16, 2021 2:20 AM GMT
https://twitter.com/search?q=Pfizer&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

And there it ISSSSS

"Pfizer executives explain to investors that people may need a third dose of covid vaccine, in addition to regular yearly boosters. The company will soon begin plans to hike prices given the "significant opportunity for our vaccine"

So now its 3 doses and yearly boosters

Ermmmm can the pro vaxxers please come out and care to explain?
Report xmoneyx March 16, 2021 2:38 AM GMT
52 weekly doses not far off
Report SontaranStratagem March 16, 2021 2:40 AM GMT
Yearly boosters to update the smart phone "health passport"

Its like an open book ffs, they don't hide their plans because they can't

So they just openly tell everyone whilst normalising them to it
Report shiny new shoes please March 16, 2021 3:44 AM GMT
Boosters every year for variants..ExcitedLaugh.. Come on keep up!!

8 hospital staff reasonably young .. Clots..
Cry
Report shiny new shoes please March 16, 2021 7:49 AM GMT
Portugal suspends use..

open banking', a data sharing initiative launched in January 2018 designed to open up the banking industry by letting people provide their financial data to other banks, budgeting apps, lenders, credit reference agencies and other third-party firms.Cry
Doris bans freedom to protest..ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 7:59 AM GMT
So apparently the vaccine now causes blood not to clot, as well as clot.
Report saddo March 16, 2021 9:09 AM GMT
dave, I'm due one tomorrow or Thursday, Is this all bollix or shall I give it a miss? Also, there is more than one brand being used round here, do they tell you which you are having?
Report politicspunter March 16, 2021 9:13 AM GMT
They do tell you what brand you are being offered.
Report saddo March 16, 2021 9:15 AM GMT
I'm guessing there are no complaints about the others?
Report politicspunter March 16, 2021 9:20 AM GMT

Mar 15, 2021 -- 9:40PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Yearly boosters to update the smart phone "health passport" Its like an open book ffs, they don't hide their plans because they can't So they just openly tell everyone whilst normalising them to it


An annual booster seems a sensible and logical route to take, I welcome it.

Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 9:22 AM GMT
^^^it's bollux imo.
Report saddo March 16, 2021 9:28 AM GMT
Ta.
Report TimmyRiggins March 16, 2021 10:19 AM GMT

Mar 16, 2021 -- 4:15AM, saddo wrote:


I'm guessing there are no complaints about the others?


Only complaints about any of them, are from idiots.

Good luck, saddo.

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk March 16, 2021 10:59 AM GMT
Head in hands man
Ask someone qualified Saddo
Where's Fatslogger nowadays?
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 12:16 PM GMT
The decision not to test these 'vaccines' before being licensed is beginning to look like an error of astronomical proportions .
Anaphylactic shock and blood clots are potential side effects that can be easily identified . One has to wonder about potential side effects that are less easy to identify such as genetic disorders etc.
Scared
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 12:42 PM GMT
blood clots don't appear to be a side effect, so how could they be identified?
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 12:50 PM GMT
Phew ! Thank goodness for that ...................... just the genetic effects left to worry about then Whoops
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 12:50 PM GMT
reynard, there is a limit to how much testing can be done, and what can be identified pre-release

no vaccine is ever tested 100%, there are always some doubts when it is released

when the vaccines are released, and start to be widely used, that is effectively the final stage of the trials

after a year or so you finally get an idea as to side effects etc.
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 12:52 PM GMT
i'm not suggesting anyone has been irresponsible, just pointing out this is how it always works, it's teh only way it can work

they try to identify as much as they can in the trials but those trials are always going to be limited, they are never going to answer all questions, for one thing sometimes they can't test the vaccines on certain groups (pregnant women)
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 12:55 PM GMT
^^^ "genetic effects" is also a meaningless phrase hth.
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 12:56 PM GMT
Trils are , on average , limited to 10 years . These vaccines were allegedly 'tested' for no more than 10 months Crazy
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:12 PM GMT
I've just had mine, like 30 minutes ago. I'll keep you all posted, God willing Devil
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 1:20 PM GMT
I'm praying for you Aspro . You've had a tough start to 2021 what with your lot currently 3pts adrift of the jt best team in London Tongue Out
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:31 PM GMT
Indeed and I wouldn't bet against it staying that way Cry
Report SontaranStratagem March 16, 2021 1:36 PM GMT
Makes me sick how they are still saying "no indication" fooking wancors

They haven't stopped this for nothing have they
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 1:40 PM GMT
I'm no anti vaxxer but how can anyone now say there is no risk to the vaccine when countries have suspended it?
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:44 PM GMT
For me there is a risk on any drug that hasn't been thoroughly tested and I almost backed out myself; in fact, I ignored the first invite, but with a few naughty medical issues, including COPD, it's a risk I am prepared to take.
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
i wouldn't worry about it too much

the chances of you dying are well under 50%
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
Of course Aspro, no problem there. You must decide what's best for yourself. What I question is the idea that it should be compulsory (in fairness it never will so its a bit academic I suppose).
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 1:47 PM GMT
I've noticed that those who are most vocal in leading the campaign NOT to suspend the vaccine work for organisations who are funded by the pharmaceutical industry .
No conflict of interest there then , eh ? Plain
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:49 PM GMT
I will admit I was spooked by the latest headlines regarding blood clotting, but I take an anti-coagulant daily together with aspirin, so I figured that wouldn't be my main concern
Report Reynard March 16, 2021 1:49 PM GMT
truehoncho - It isn't compulsory unless you intend to travel abroad in the future or attend sporting events or the theatre or use public transport etc .....
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 1:52 PM GMT
I don't think so Reynard. I think you have been listening to the conspiracy theorists. That's never ever ever going to happen.
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:52 PM GMT
A tip for anyone planning to have their jab. There was a long queue outside the centre here and the wait was up to 30 minutes. It appears they are bulk-booking slots so first come first served within your timeframe... wrap up warm, just in case.
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:54 PM GMT
In Reynard's defence, I have also read that some countries will not allow non-vaccinations in
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 1:56 PM GMT
Well aspro, we will see how long they keep that up for. All part of the push to get people vaccinated.
Report Aspro March 16, 2021 1:57 PM GMT
You're probably right
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
indeed why should countries allow in people who either will spread infection or strain their health services?
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 2:01 PM GMT
beacause they need tourist and business money to pay for the health services in the first place.
Report politicspunter March 16, 2021 2:03 PM GMT

Mar 16, 2021 -- 9:00AM, dave1357 wrote:


indeed why should countries allow in people who either will spread infection or strain their health services?


Exactly.

Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 2:03 PM GMT
Exactly. --  See post above.
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
As I said above, their will be plenty of vaccinated people to keep the tourist industries booming without relying on those on the margins.
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
*there
Report ekbalko March 16, 2021 2:08 PM GMT
More likely blood clots are with most people sitting around for 12 months.
Report truehoncho March 16, 2021 2:08 PM GMT
Margins??? Thats what profitability is built on. There will be millions and millions  of unvaccinated people in europe this year, next year and on and on. All the dafty scaremongering won't change that.
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:09 PM GMT
dave what % of the population do yew think will get vaccinated?
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:10 PM GMT
more importantly dave, what % of the BAME do you think will get vaccinated?
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:11 PM GMT
in israel only 60% have bean vaccinated
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
on the other hand we have Gib at 88.0%

witch route will UK follow?
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
Almost everyone will in the UK
Report dave1357 March 16, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
All the dafty scaremongering won't change that.

yeah the scaremongering might reduce the uptake, but tourist economies aren't going to open up unless they can do so safely and vaccinated people will allow them to do that.
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:14 PM GMT
will europe bee like Gib or like Israel Confused

that is the question
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:14 PM GMT
lfc what about the BAME
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:16 PM GMT
Shouldn’t expect there will be much difference in bame guiseppe
That’s overstated
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:17 PM GMT
the Malvinas are on 49.7%
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:18 PM GMT
Seychelles, Gib and Israel only places that have broken the 60% barrier
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:19 PM GMT
In general we trust the NHS and U.K. scientists
( yes we can’t know for certain and there is always some worry but everything has been very good so far
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:19 PM GMT
lfc the rate of vaccinatio in isarel has really slowed down

they raced to 50% but have now been stuck at 50-60% for a long time

that suggests to me there is resistance from a lot of people
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:20 PM GMT
not sure BAME trust the NHS as much as you do
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:21 PM GMT
I don’t like to say that because I’m often pessimistic and very cautious about drugs anyway
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:23 PM GMT
Bame have no reason to distrust the nhs any more than anyone else
And I don’t think they do
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 2:24 PM GMT
what about the racism
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:25 PM GMT
We will find out pretty soon , fingers crossed :)
Report lfc1971 March 16, 2021 2:26 PM GMT
There’s no racism in Britain , more tosh
Report casemoney March 16, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
AstraZeneca vaccine: EU regulator 'firmly convinced' benefits outweigh risks

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Macron devistated Grin
Report impossible123 March 16, 2021 7:38 PM GMT
BAME is a misnomer. My Turkish, West Indian, Malaysian, Singaporean, Chinese, Japanese friends, etc, loathed being lumped in with immigrants from Africa or South Asia. They do not want to be known as minority ethnics either. They have an identity and are proud of it eg East or South East Asians, Chinese or Japanese. These are certainly not South Asians ie Indians/Pakistanis or Sri Lankans.

Imagine calling everyone from Europe Europeans. Try saying that to a German, French, Italian or Spanish they are the same as Polish or Czech or Lithuanian or Romanian. They may all reside in the continent of Europe but they are not Polish or Czech. There are distinct differences in language, culture, tradition, religion between these Europeans.

They are all Europeans but there is a massive difference between Europeans and Eastern Europeans.
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 7:48 PM GMT
Imagine calling everyone from Europe Europeans

"white" "caucasian"
Report Giuseppe March 16, 2021 7:48 PM GMT
white supremacy, white privilege
Report impossible123 March 16, 2021 8:32 PM GMT
Why not just call people the name of the country they are from eg Turkish/Turkey; Afghanistani/Afghanistan; Kurdish/Kurdistan; British/Britain; English/England; German/Germany; Polish/Poland; etc.

Identity indicates pride and respect.
Report clouded leopard March 17, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
casemoney16

AstraZeneca vaccine: EU regulator 'firmly convinced' benefits outweigh risks




Firmly convinced enough to remove their legal immunity I wonder

Silly
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