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9.30 tonight , not sure what these people will be doing , I'm not sure clapping and banging pots and pans would be suitable 
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And she proposes that to be a reportable crime. A poor taste joke. Whereas, I'm assuming, she would maintain that threatening to stab someone in the front is perfectly fine.
Didn't you already acknowledge earlier that the two things weren't quite on the same level? Something that then prompted you to get the brilliant (*cough*), now debunked, idea about her suggesting he literally wanted to rape her?
Once you've wrapped your head around that concept, the hypocrisy element might sink in too. It is very hard to determine intent with confidence every time from language alone. What might be flippant, rhetorical, from what is bad (or literal) intent. Interpretation can be very biased. Policing language is a dark and dangerous road.
It's funny when especially someone from the UK says so. The UK has had obscenity laws that all us contintentals have made fun of for decades. Obscenity laws that polices languages on radio and TV (and this forum)
That's not policed, that's censored. You do appear to struggle with definitions on occasion.
The forum isn't policed, that's why there is a report button.
Uhm...we are talking about obscenity laws. If radio was to ignore them, I'm pretty sure there'd be someone who polices the law.
and with it then naturally polices the language broadcast on the radio.
That's a whole other topic. We can't even manage existing crimes very well, so adding new crimes that are virtually impossible to define is madness in my view.
Edy, some terrible results for the CDU today in Germany regional elections.
Getting the bill for their botched covid handling and latest corruption scandals.
This is read as a chance for the traffic light coalition that's already in place in Rheinland-Pfalz expanding to Baden-Württemberg and potentially the federal government after the big elections later this year.
Still big favourites to supply chancellor though?
traffic light coalition = SPD + FDP + Greens (not necessarily in this order naturally - after a federal election this coalition would likely be led by the Greens as the strongest party)
Yep, Soder and Laschet massive favourites betting wise for chancellor currently but far from clear cut going by those results today.
German elections are interesting, aren't they?
Latest polls have the traffic light coalition right on the edge of having a potential majority. Something everybody would want I guess.
Greens because it would get them to chancellor instead of being junior partner
SPD because it gets them into a non-CDU led government
FDP because it's their only chance to govern full stop.
That said, Greens/SPD and FDP aren't a match made in heaven. Lindner (chief of federal FDP) already refused to enter a Jamaica-coalition in 2017, which then got us another big coalition.
Latest polls have the traffic light coalition right on the edge of having a potential majority. Something everybody would want I guess.
Greens because it would get them to chancellor instead of being junior partner
SPD because it gets them into a non-CDU led government
FDP because it's their only chance to govern full stop.
That said, Greens/SPD and FDP aren't a match made in heaven. Lindner (chief of federal FDP) already refused to enter a Jamaica-coalition in 2017, which then got us another big coalition.
The elections have opened up with CDU messing up lately and with their corruption scandals.
I think the German political situation is very interesting and so far very profitable from a betting point of view. There are so many differences in regions.
Let me tell you a mad thing that happened earlier this year. Remember that CDU leader election with the three candidates? It was a massive betting event. Purely by chance I came across a site that was reporting the delegate support from regional branches three days before the selection conference...
LIVE - Protest against Anti Protest Bill - London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B40PNBq5Xf8
Same mob as last night in Clapham, by the looks.
f the polis, no justice no peace, etc by Churchill's statue.
Not sure it's going to end well ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B40PNBq5Xf8
Same mob as last night in Clapham, by the looks.
f the polis, no justice no peace, etc by Churchill's statue.
Not sure it's going to end well ...
Edy, The CDU appear to have lost seats in every single regional election today. Is Laschet in trouble?
What a bunch of attention seekers Trilby.
Plus being brainwashed in public, clueless clowns.
Plus being brainwashed in public, clueless clowns.
A couple of young girls on the news tonight told it like it is.
Said last night started off as planned - a respectful vigil - but it was soon hijacked by people with a political agenda.
Said last night started off as planned - a respectful vigil - but it was soon hijacked by people with a political agenda.
WD sees what he thinks are great retorts so steals them but is so keen to use them they actually don't make any sense.
Mar 14, 2021 -- 1:51PM, Cider wrote:
It's two things wolf, the victim was one of 'their own' and the alleged perpetrator is the woke's #1 target identity. If he had the profile of the Reading slaughterer, it would have barely made the news.
They've developed a new saying now
#fakewoke, which is targeting white men who talk woke but its "fakewoke" because their white
So now their coming for the white lads who try to fit in with them... unlucky lads you might as well go back in the closet now eh.
Mar 14, 2021 -- 10:56PM, akabula wrote:
A couple of young girls on the news tonight told it like it is.Said last night started off as planned - a respectful vigil - but it was soon hijacked by people with a political agenda.
An American streamer was on about this the other week
Every time there's a big protest (peaceful) there's always agents in the crowd who break a window and start a riot every single time. They ain't getting anywhere with "peaceful protests", its infiltrated and turned into political, its how they stop organic uprises
Haven't read the thread is anybody smelling a rat with all this? It's very fishy as are the crisis actors at the fake vigil - who gives a fk anyway the gullibles will believe anything even if the agendas are as obvious as Jordans t!ts
Jordons trying to get petition going so they make a law in having to provide an ID to get on social media
Oh don't worry they've got that in the works anyway, and they will make it so you need the "jab" passport in there as well
Oh don't worry they've got that in the works anyway, and they will make it so you need the "jab" passport in there as well
I'm waiting for the incredible stupidity in spinning it that needing the vaccine is required to be able to have the freedom of the net 
It will be "illegal" soon to post links from sites they deem offensive
Crime Bill ffs
"wont impinge on right to protest" no it wont for the demographics they allow no it wont
But if they deem you a "domestic terrorist" then yes, yes it will
"wont impinge on right to protest" no it wont for the demographics they allow no it wont
But if they deem you a "domestic terrorist" then yes, yes it will
"country united in grief and shock"
Except for the #curfewallmen #hatemen and any other forms of male bashing that's been employed at the moment
Yeah its been united
Except for the #curfewallmen #hatemen and any other forms of male bashing that's been employed at the moment
Yeah its been united
"protest against bill"
And they've still voted it through anyway so what fooking good does it do
Said it before and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, they manipulate the "chaos", if any real organic uprise started happening it simply wouldn't be reported on, it'd be stomped out by way of having cops kick the doors down of its leaders at 2am in the morning and "taken away" never to be seen again.
Do people think the media would actually report on an organic revolution ffs, they control the narrative and they can't control it if its legit.
And they've still voted it through anyway so what fooking good does it do
Said it before and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, they manipulate the "chaos", if any real organic uprise started happening it simply wouldn't be reported on, it'd be stomped out by way of having cops kick the doors down of its leaders at 2am in the morning and "taken away" never to be seen again.
Do people think the media would actually report on an organic revolution ffs, they control the narrative and they can't control it if its legit.
big protest again in london today, and being allowed
seems to be about both the police bill and clapham common
seems to be about both the police bill and clapham common
Kill the Bill!
I am not sure how you can get 10 years for damaging a statue but only 4 years for Rape?
Kill the Bill!
I am not sure how you can get 10 years for damaging a statue but only 4 years for Rape?
Kill the Bill!
the amount of coverage this is getting
"real public answer...political pressure"
its a few hundred twenty-something women with placards
its not the poll tax riots
"real public answer...political pressure"
its a few hundred twenty-something women with placards
its not the poll tax riots
sky news
feamle presenter talking to female reporter about illegal mostly female protest which police are allowing, and the narrative is discrimination against women
feamle presenter talking to female reporter about illegal mostly female protest which police are allowing, and the narrative is discrimination against women
So you can throw a statue in the river and get 10 years but throw a woman in the river and you will probably not be charged!
and the narrative is discrimination against women
Why would you conclude that Seppe?
and the narrative is discrimination against women
Why would you conclude that Seppe?
C4 news asked for a rep from relevant Ministry for violence against women. Response was nil.
C4 then asked if anyone from the Government could attend an interview. Again was declined.
This is a constant theme from this Government. They obviously feel they are above being held to account.
People who voted for this shambolic and corrupt Tory mess have a lot to answer.
C4 then asked if anyone from the Government could attend an interview. Again was declined.
This is a constant theme from this Government. They obviously feel they are above being held to account.
People who voted for this shambolic and corrupt Tory mess have a lot to answer.
Screams of " KILL THE BILL" can be heard in westminster from women who were screaming kill granny a few weeks ago for breaking covid rules as they throng en masse.. no hypocrisy there of course. Maybe they are just screaming " KILLBILL" with the film franchise announcing a new sequel who knows,as long as they can get on tv and follow the herd mentality I doubt they care.
The riots around a decade ago after a black guy was shot by police soon took off in every city, most people didnt even know his name or actually care about what they purported to protect against but it didn't stop thousands of shops being ransacked or burnt to the ground
The riots around a decade ago after a black guy was shot by police soon took off in every city, most people didnt even know his name or actually care about what they purported to protect against but it didn't stop thousands of shops being ransacked or burnt to the ground
because its all about how not enough men are prosecuted for rape, not enough being done to protect women (implying it is because they are women), women treated unfairly at clapham common, manhandled by police etc.
the media have given this issue wall to wall coverage, yet these protesters are convinced society is indifferent to women's concerns
facts you were on the vaccine thread moaning about people not getting the vaccine putting lives at risk yet the thousands of woke mob fraternity protesting in incandescent rage regarding a woman they have never met in their lives doesn't do that or do you conveniently ignore it as it is from a group you support instead of those nasty naughty tories
"Ministry for violence against women"
what type of orwellian nightmare are we living in
what type of orwellian nightmare are we living in
No social distancing to be seen in violation of covid laws, imagine how angry facts would be if a tory was spotted within a foot of old granny- he would be near cardiac arrest in uncontrollable rage no doubt
Mar 15, 2021 -- 8:21PM, Facts wrote:
C4 news asked for a rep from relevant Ministry for violence against women. Response was nil.C4 then asked if anyone from the Government could attend an interview. Again was declined.This is a constant theme from this Government. They obviously feel they are above being held to account.People who voted for this shambolic and corrupt Tory mess have a lot to answer.
Surely Khan is more appropriate candidate to hold to account. London mayor for five years.
The Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011 established a Police and Crime Commissioner for each police force area across England and Wales. In London, the elected Mayor – Sadiq Khan, is the equivalent of the Police and Crime Commissioner and is responsible for the totality of policing in the capital (outside of the City of London).
London’s streets are not safe “for women or for girls,” London Mayor Sadiq Khan has said in the wake of Sarah Everard’s disappearance.
i want to clear: i think they should be allowed to protest
but i'm interested in how the media, politicains and police are reacting to this, compared to say the the anti-lockdown protests
but i'm interested in how the media, politicains and police are reacting to this, compared to say the the anti-lockdown protests
london's streets aren't safe for anyone, an isolated unusual murder is being hijacked by a feminist agenda
The government has no direct influence over operational decisions of the Met. As much as Khan may try to distance himself, and the compliant media assist him with his obfuscation, he is at the top of that tree.
a muslim mayor, a lesbian chief of the met and a female hindu home secretary
for once this isn't our fault surely?
for once this isn't our fault surely?
He meets with 'Cress' virtually weekly for the last 5 years.
.https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/governance-and-decision-making/mayor-commissioner-meeting
Example
Mayor of London and
Commissioner of Metropolitan Police
Meeting, 10 February 2021
Sadiq Khan – Mayor of London
Dame Cressida Dick – Commissioner
Supported by:
Sophie Linden – Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime
Diana Luchford – Chief Executive Officer, MOPAC
Lib Peck – Director, VRU
Sir Steve House – Deputy Commissioner
AC Helen Ball, MPS
Commander Catherine Roper, MPS
Nick Bowes – Mayoral Director, Mayor’s Office
David Bellamy – Chief of Staff, Mayor’s Office
1. Citizens in Policing
The MPS provided an in-depth briefing on the work of volunteers and special
constables in the MPS.
2. Covid-19 Update
The Commissioner updated on the Mayor on the enforcement of the Covid-19
regulations and the impact of the pandemic on the MPS’s workforce.
3. Tackling Violent Crime Monthly Update
The Mayor was provided with an update on the work of the Violent Crime Task Force
and the Violence Suppression Units, the progress being made by the Violence Reduction
Unit and MOPAC’s work on tackling violent crime.
4. Operational Update
The Commissioner provided an update on operational issues
What do these fookers talk about
London’s streets are not safe “for women or for girls,” London Mayor Sadiq Khan
.https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/governance-and-decision-making/mayor-commissioner-meeting
Example
Mayor of London and
Commissioner of Metropolitan Police
Meeting, 10 February 2021
Sadiq Khan – Mayor of London
Dame Cressida Dick – Commissioner
Supported by:
Sophie Linden – Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime
Diana Luchford – Chief Executive Officer, MOPAC
Lib Peck – Director, VRU
Sir Steve House – Deputy Commissioner
AC Helen Ball, MPS
Commander Catherine Roper, MPS
Nick Bowes – Mayoral Director, Mayor’s Office
David Bellamy – Chief of Staff, Mayor’s Office
1. Citizens in Policing
The MPS provided an in-depth briefing on the work of volunteers and special
constables in the MPS.
2. Covid-19 Update
The Commissioner updated on the Mayor on the enforcement of the Covid-19
regulations and the impact of the pandemic on the MPS’s workforce.
3. Tackling Violent Crime Monthly Update
The Mayor was provided with an update on the work of the Violent Crime Task Force
and the Violence Suppression Units, the progress being made by the Violence Reduction
Unit and MOPAC’s work on tackling violent crime.
4. Operational Update
The Commissioner provided an update on operational issues
What do these fookers talk about
London’s streets are not safe “for women or for girls,” London Mayor Sadiq Khan
serious question: how do you prevent a murder like sarah's?
It has to be a holistic approach in general, you can't prevent nutters. However if the cops spent more time on the street and less time on a laptop investigating non crime hate incidents, it would be a step forward.
From the bbc...
What advice did the home secretary give to the Met Commissioner before the vigil?
Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, who called for Cressida Dick's resignation on Saturday night, is the next MP to ask the Priti Patel a question.
He says: "The scenes of women being forced to the ground restrained and arrested simply for holding a peaceful vigil in memory of Sarah Everard and in condemnation of violence against women and girls were utterly disgraceful.
"Of course the Met Commissioner Cressida Dick must resign but can I ask what personal responsibility she herself has for the terrible handling of this peaceful vigil?"
He asks if the home secretary spoke to the Met commissioner in the run up to the vigil and if so what advice did she give her?
Patel says: "I had been in touch with the Metropolitan Police Commissioner on Friday and throughout the weekend and we have had extensive discussions in terms of planning and preparation for the vigil at the weekend."
She says on Friday legal action was under way so there were various plans the police were working on.
She says: "I will be very clear though, on Friday my views were known and they were based in the fact that people who wanted to pay tribute... bear in mind we are in a pandemic... but people who lived locally... laying flowers was the right thing to do."
But, she says, the scenes on Saturday were upsetting and that is the reason why she has requested a report into what happened.
Has Priti Patel resigned yet?
What advice did the home secretary give to the Met Commissioner before the vigil?
Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, who called for Cressida Dick's resignation on Saturday night, is the next MP to ask the Priti Patel a question.
He says: "The scenes of women being forced to the ground restrained and arrested simply for holding a peaceful vigil in memory of Sarah Everard and in condemnation of violence against women and girls were utterly disgraceful.
"Of course the Met Commissioner Cressida Dick must resign but can I ask what personal responsibility she herself has for the terrible handling of this peaceful vigil?"
He asks if the home secretary spoke to the Met commissioner in the run up to the vigil and if so what advice did she give her?
Patel says: "I had been in touch with the Metropolitan Police Commissioner on Friday and throughout the weekend and we have had extensive discussions in terms of planning and preparation for the vigil at the weekend."
She says on Friday legal action was under way so there were various plans the police were working on.
She says: "I will be very clear though, on Friday my views were known and they were based in the fact that people who wanted to pay tribute... bear in mind we are in a pandemic... but people who lived locally... laying flowers was the right thing to do."
But, she says, the scenes on Saturday were upsetting and that is the reason why she has requested a report into what happened.
Has Priti Patel resigned yet?
Here's Tory boy to put in a shift defending the opposition again
"women being forced to the ground restrained and arrested simply for holding a peaceful vigil"
how about
"women forced to the ground restrained and arrested simply for holding an illegal vigil and refusing to leave when instructed to do so by police"
how about
"women forced to the ground restrained and arrested simply for holding an illegal vigil and refusing to leave when instructed to do so by police"
"thereby endangering lives in the midst of deadly pandemic"
Ultimately the Home Secretary had been in regular discussion with Cressida Dick on a number of occasions regarding the event. She has to go.
dick the chief of the met, she has "operational independence" amd should ahve been able to make the right chocie herself
Patel says: "I had been in touch with the Metropolitan Police Commissioner on Friday and throughout the weekend and we have had extensive discussions in terms of planning and preparation for the vigil at the weekend."
Her days are numbered.
Her days are numbered.
I had been in touch with the Metropolitan Police Commissioner on Friday and throughout the weekend and we have had extensive discussions in terms of planning and preparation for the vigil at the weekend
Punter struggles with that concept. The home sec foresaw the potential issues and asked them for their plans.
Punter struggles with that concept. The home sec foresaw the potential issues and asked them for their plans.
i dont think she can't tell the chief of the met what to do
Mar 15, 2021 -- 8:36PM, Giuseppe wrote:
a muslim mayor, a lesbian chief of the met and a female hindu home secretaryfor once this isn't our fault surely?
Is commissioner dick a lesbian
If it was a business, PP is the chairperson, Sadiq is the CEO and 'Cress' is the operations director.
So, it's either the Ops director or CEO that falls on their sword.
Cops be clamping down soon with these mugs shouting acab, imo.
Any other live feeds about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLyhqTISG4
Any other live feeds about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLyhqTISG4
i don't think patel can tell dick what to do
I think you will find Dick sheite's on us all!
I think you will find Dick sheite's on us all!
Patel has bullied people to almost commit suicide at various departments and government roles, she has broke the ministerial code, the government has just paid out to save a hugely embarrassing employment tribunal loss. Now this. How much longer can she last?
absolutely they should!
The amount of misogynists on here! All had mothers, what did they teach their sons?
The amount of misogynists on here! All had mothers, what did they teach their sons?
if only the mother of sarah's murderer had told him murder was wrong
violence towards men is far greater but like all the other woke topics you will be cancelled or even lose your job for saying so
enjoy you new world
enjoy you new world
I have never understood why one would be aggressive to women. Why? Could we filter them out with tests??? and then it becomes a political football. As it already has in the last couple of days. And there will only be a one sided discussion as the political activists grab hold of it.
Male on male violence is far far far far higher
Millwall and West Ham fans regularly have meet up fights? friendly punch ups
Millwall and West Ham fans regularly have meet up fights? friendly punch ups
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