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All adults in the UK will be offered their first dose of a coronavirus vaccine by the end of July, the prime minister has pledged.
More than 17 million people have been given a jab since the UK's Covid vaccine rollout began in December 2020.
But Boris Johnson said he now wants the programme to "go further and faster".
He said the July target would allow vulnerable people to be protected "sooner" and would help to further ease lockdown rules across the country.
NHS England chief executive Sir Simon Stevens said there were "early signs" the vaccine rollout was contributing to a fall in hospital admissions.
The PM is due to hold a final meeting with senior ministers about how to ease England's lockdown later, before he sets out the full "road map" on Monday.
A speedy rollout of the vaccine to all vulnerable people is seen as critical to reducing the pandemic's death toll and relieving pressure on the NHS.
The government's previous target was to offer all adults the first dose by September.
The new plan means that by 15 April, all adults aged 50 and over, as well as younger people with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk, should have been offered a jab.
However, the order of priority for under-50s has yet to be outlined by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).
Prof Adam Finn, a member of the JCVI, said he expected that a public announcement would be made on vaccine priorities at some point in the next week.
He told BBC Breakfast: "The strategy from JCVI that's being provided as advice to the government is just being finalised at the moment, and then government will make their decision as to how to do this during the coming days, so I think there'll be some kind of public announcement around that in the next week or so."
The speedier rollout of the vaccine is likely to raise expectations - and pressure - for a swifter unlocking in England, but the government is still talking the language of caution.
Senior ministers will finalise the plan today before it's presented to the wider Cabinet for approval tomorrow.
It's unlikely that any restrictions will change before 8 March, when the government hopes to get all children back into schools.
The prime minister has long said that is his top priority.
But it is likely that a small tweak will be made from that date to allow people to meet one other person outdoors for social purposes rather than just for exercise.
A Downing Street source said this would be the beginning of allowing people to meet each other for socialising once again as the government recognised the impact of not seeing loved ones.It's understood various options - which could include reintroducing the rule of six - are being considered for the weeks beyond.
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Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:13 PM GMT
religious beliefs
Medication
Under 16 ..but this could change..
Employment law will have to circumvented
Human rights too.
Basically it's borderline Nazi Germany again..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:16 PM GMT
Why only borderline?
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:18 PM GMT
No camps yet..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:20 PM GMT
yet Happy
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:21 PM GMT
You still have a chance to go to Tanzania to seek your freedom. Use it.
Report wolf3011 February 21, 2021 4:21 PM GMT
Nazi germany wasnt long ago in the history of the human race yet millions followed their warped doctrine. I firmly believe if you wheeled out enough doctors informing people of the strain infirmity was putting on the NHS killing people and the best cure hopping for 30 seconds on one leg each morning with new laws coming in meaning video evidence would need to be submitted of the mandatory exercise many would do it. Imagine just over a year ago if people were told you would not be able to see relatives as it was illegal, would have to wear masks inside public buildings and face arrest for driving to a local beauty spot for a walk- people would classify you as insane but here we are. The masses are largely unthinking sheep basically controlled mainly by the media which saddo alluded to on another thread and each government is following the next for most laws with sanity long since thrown out of the window.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
Ireland fought for its freedom
We will again..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:24 PM GMT
Who will you be fighting against?
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:26 PM GMT
Your not that dump.edy
work it out ..
be brave .. Or hid..
I'm quietly confident about eire ..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:27 PM GMT
No, tell me!
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:27 PM GMT
Be brave! Don't hide behind mysterious phrasing.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
Watch what happens if they try introduce what Israel is planning here .
I eagerly await..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
That still ain't no answer, mate. C'mon, don't be a chicken.
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 4:32 PM GMT
wheres mex?
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:33 PM GMT
Did you not like the Nazi Germany edy
Own it..
ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:37 PM GMT
...Still dodging the answer...
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:37 PM GMT
Be brave once in your life for fook's sake.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 4:43 PM GMT
10,000+ doctors calling to end lockdown
treat the sick
Do your job LaughLaugh
Hitler laughing @ u.k. Israel, Greece.. Me too movement ..
Report edy February 21, 2021 4:45 PM GMT
Looks like someone is terribly scared to even just name those he supposedly wants to fight ardently.
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 4:51 PM GMT
Wolf

So you were posting total garbage about you converting to Islam & their is a religious reason to not having a vaccine
You still haven’t posted a link to the text which says you are exempt.
You may need to explain to the vaccine passport authorities why you are exempt, this will be difficult if you telling lies and not actually exempt.

I believe UAE are leading the way in vaccines & in UK people are receiving vaccines inside mosques.


Keep posting your Godwin’s law nonsense rather than providing any evidence to support your claims.
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 4:57 PM GMT
Make the proletariat pay £ 10 for their vaccine Boris
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 5:00 PM GMT
Please , it really is deplorable that the vaccine is free and we have moaning about the cost to the NHS !
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 21, 2021 5:06 PM GMT
It's not free, we are paying for it.
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
Oh LFC

Can you imagine the outrage from the shiny hat scrounges on this forum if they had to pay for their own medical insurance rather than rely on taxpayers to pay the bill.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 5:11 PM GMT
The Imitation Game
Alan Turing ..
On tonight ..
Freedom at any cost ..
Great film.
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 5:12 PM GMT
Well it seems they are never happy mexico , they complain about the cost to the nhs , and then complain about having to pay for the jab
Who do they want to pay ?
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
Scotland seems to be the worst for this sort of behaviour to be honest
Report wolf3011 February 21, 2021 5:14 PM GMT

Feb 21, 2021 -- 10:51AM, Mexico wrote:


WolfSo you were posting total garbage about you converting to Islam & their is a religious reason to not having a vaccine You still haven’t posted a link to the text which says you are exempt.You may need to explain to the vaccine passport authorities why you are exempt, this will be difficult if you telling lies and not actually exempt.I believe UAE are leading the way in vaccines & in UK people are receiving vaccines inside mosques.Keep posting your Godwin’s law nonsense rather than providing any evidence to support your claims.


Mexico, there is an old adage " Treat as you find" and I find you to be a fool of the highest order I'm afraid. I don't need to post " any link", I simply need to tell "passport authorities" taking the vaccine is against my religious beliefs which has been a phrase peddled out for years by those using it for different reasons. You can't turn your woke radar on and off when you choose, it's now getting returned with interest which isn't just ironic but quite funny- poetic justice you could say.. your own tool of diversity works both ways so embrace it. It doesn't matter if I am converted to the religion of peace or not, if I say I am then that's the end of the story in a society which is so insane a 15 stone 6ft4 man could identify as a female if he brushes his beard in a dress and someone is racist for not kneeling down on a football pitch. I realised some time ago attempting to have sane conversations with people like you is a futile exercise so play you at your own absurd games. Please don't mock my religion with your racist islamophobia old boy

You never did answer why you have the username of "mexico " btw

Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 5:14 PM GMT
On edy dear..it's already begun
Cyprus riots over lockdown & corruption
Australia  riots over vaccine

Protests have erupted across several European countries, including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Georgia, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands, Spain
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 21, 2021 5:18 PM GMT
Some people still think the government has its own money
that isn't the public purse.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 5:19 PM GMT
Just hid you'll be fine ..
ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
Some countries are like that , surprised France isn’t there , they like to protest
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 5:52 PM GMT
Wolf

What is your religion?
You claim you are a Muslim & so strict that you won’t have a vaccine, even though you don’t know why it is against your religious beliefs.
Now you claim it doesn’t matter if you follow Islam or not. You don’t seem very convinced about your religion, and still can’t provide any reasons why you should be exempt from getting a vaccine.

Seems strange that you spend so much time on a betting website.

Good luck with your plan of refusing a vaccine then getting your exemption certificate from a scheme which hasn’t even been set up yet.


If you are too scared to have a vaccine then don’t have one. Simples.
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 6:04 PM GMT
In England we will gradually try to get covid under control , as best we can , hopefully can be achieved . Yes there are unknowns and nothing is certain , but in England it will be done without any threat to individual freedoms or our way of life
That’s the governments aim, and everyones
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 6:09 PM GMT
it isnt our way of life and it isnt freedom to have to show papers to go about your everyday business
Report lfc1971 February 21, 2021 6:14 PM GMT
We do have to do that in certain situations 19 , but this is temporary and don’t worry about England we never exceed what is reasonableness reasonable when it comes to things such as this
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 6:21 PM GMT
19

If you are refusing to be vaccinated then you won’t need to worry about having to prove you have been vaccinated. Just avoid the businesses who don’t want your trade.

This “passport “ only really needs a photo and a green/red light. Not exactly ID papers.
We don’t even know what businesses will want evidence that people have had vaccine. The scheme doesn’t exist at the moment.
Report Dotchinite February 21, 2021 6:27 PM GMT
It wont exist either. No business can afford to alienate a decent percentage of the population. People are worrying about nothing.
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 6:37 PM GMT
mex, wrong again,never said i wouldnt take one.all i wanted was more time to see results and make up my mind.is that too much to ask in your fascist world?

where i live they will take your money if you go in anywhere with a suicide vest on.as long as you spend money they will have you.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 6:37 PM GMT
Schoolkids allowed to return to "safe classrooms" working people laughed at.
Work that out..
European union should be ashamed there letting Greece trail green pass.
U.k. They'd sell there soul to any rogue nation.
Funny Germany's human rights board slams Israel
The irony is worth the lockdown ..
Report wolf3011 February 21, 2021 6:38 PM GMT

Feb 21, 2021 -- 11:52AM, Mexico wrote:


WolfWhat is your religion?You claim you are a Muslim & so strict that you won’t have a vaccine, even though you don’t know why it is against your religious beliefs.Now you claim it doesn’t matter if you follow Islam or not. You don’t seem very convinced about your religion, and still can’t provide any reasons why you should be exempt from getting a vaccine.Seems strange that you spend so much time on a betting website. Good luck with your plan of refusing a vaccine then getting your exemption certificate from a scheme which hasn’t even been set up yet.If you are too scared to have a vaccine then don’t have one. Simples.


Im not scared of covid unlike you - my religion is acceptance of my own mortality instead of hiding from something which poses little threat to anyone under 60, what's yours?

Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 6:40 PM GMT
Ibm,Ford ..u.s.a
U.k weren't happy
Now there complicate ..
6.7 billion.Laugh
Report Make my hay February 21, 2021 6:43 PM GMT
Wonder if the 77th Brigade will be taking the vaccine, what do you reckon Mex?
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 6:45 PM GMT
19

I don’t care if you have a vaccine or not.
I didn’t claim you have outright refused.

I was making the correct observation that those refusing a vaccine don’t need to worry about providing proof that they have had a vaccine in a scheme which doesn’t actually exist.


I notice still no link to where you got your 99.97% Covid misinformation from. Was it from a right wing racist conspiracy site?
Could you provide a link to the article?

People are getting worked up about a nonexistent Covid passport scheme. Time to calm down and wait for details and how, where will be used. As you have already pointed out it is unlikely to be used in many places as the owners don’t want to turn away potential customers.
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 6:50 PM GMT
i am no more worked up about the vaccine than i am about the virus with a 99.97% recovery rate.unlike you who is sh1tting himself hiding away from it.or are you a bot?
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 6:52 PM GMT
The irony
Germany human rights slams israel

Mex. Wait for details lol
We have known since last year ..
Are you blind??
It's been posted numerous times..ExcitedLaugh
Forgive them .. Lord ..
Can I go to the camps for anti freedom pls..
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 7:15 PM GMT
19

You keep posting this Covid misinformation against the Betfair T&C about 99.97%.

Could you provide a link to where this figure came from?

Have you been getting your Coronavirus information from right wing racist conspiracy sites?
Could you provide a link to the source of your story.
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 7:18 PM GMT
Shiny

What details do we know?

Could you provide a list of pubs & restaurants which will require people to provide proof they have been vaccinated. Could you provide details of when this scheme comes into force.

Or should we calm down & actually wait until we have some details about this scheme which doesn’t actually exist yet.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 7:23 PM GMT
Put the glasses on a read .
It's here a year now
ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 7:58 PM GMT
dear me mex,you are so boring.you trot out the same old right wing crap and misinformation.i have told you plenty times,prove them stats wrong by putting the true ones up.until you do i will take it mine are right.

i know now you are a bot.
Report BennyBinion1 February 21, 2021 8:21 PM GMT
SAGE total weirdo scientist on Marr show this morning, stating ALL children should be vaccinated AS SOON AS Possible.

Working at a London University where Gates has invested 40 million into!!!
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 8:28 PM GMT
19

I have explained many times that there are about 120,000 Covid deaths, the population of UK is about 65m , so about 0.2% of population have died.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Where did you get your Covid misinformation from? Was it a right wing racist conspiracy site?

Could you provide a link to where you got this 99.97% misinformation from?

I know now you are an unemployed bot.
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 8:43 PM GMT
no, not 120,000 have died of covid.
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 8:48 PM GMT
Thanks for the link 19

Can we assume you are too ashamed to provide a link to where you got your 99.97% information from?
Is it from a right wing racist conspiracy site?

I had the decency to provide a link to the data .

Care to provide a link to where you got your Covid misinformation from?
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 9:10 PM GMT
answer the question or provide the real figures.

i would only be ashamed if i was frightened of a virus with a recovery rate of 99.97%
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 9:21 PM GMT
25,000 approx.flu annually
150,000 approx.cancer
30,000 stroke
40,000 heart related.

Covid 120 mex don't make me laugh
You no that's wrong ...
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 9:25 PM GMT
Alan turning ..
Humans find violence deeply satisfying
Remove that act they become hollow.
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 9:40 PM GMT
19

Once again here is a link to the data I used

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Can you now provide a link to where you got this 99.97% misinformation from?
Are you ashamed because it is from a right wing racist conspiracy site?

I have answered you question many times & provided a link to the data used,

So can you stop being so rude and start to engage with the forum.
Could you provide a link to the article where this 99.97% misinformation came from.
Report nineteen points February 21, 2021 9:46 PM GMT
thats world.i said britain.stop wasting my time.
Report Dotchinite February 21, 2021 9:50 PM GMT
The Uk mortality rate will be much higher than for the World overall due to our aging population and unhealthy lifestyles.
Im certainly prepared to believe that in places like India the death rate is no greater than that for flu and there is evidence to support that.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 9:56 PM GMT
525,000 NHS admissions were obesity related in 2016/2017. The UK has the largest rates of obesity in Europe. Obesity is responsible for 30,000++ deaths a year. Only 26% of adults ate the recommended 5-a-day in 2016. Stationary lifestyles are often to blame
Report Mexico February 21, 2021 9:56 PM GMT
Omg 19

Are you unable to navigate around that website to get the UK numbers? Do you feel equipped to deal with working in the 21st century.

No wonder you are fooled by right wing racist conspiracy websites

Could you provide a link to the site where you got that 99.97% misinformation from.
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 10:01 PM GMT
there are 115,000++ new diagnoses per year, most people with COPD are not diagnosed until they are in their fifties or older and many more people may remain undiagnosed. The UK has the 12th highest recorded deaths from COPD
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
They are all not covid ..
As you well no..
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 10:09 PM GMT
30,000++annually..
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 10:12 PM GMT
50,000 ++deaths were  due to dementia and Alzheimer's disease in 2018.
Wakey wakey ..
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 10:14 PM GMT
I could keep going
Or Ireland's figures
But why bother ..
Futile
Report shiny new shoes please February 21, 2021 11:19 PM GMT
2018 u.k. 1.9 million people aged 85 years and over (2.8% of the total population); by 2035 this is projected to double 

The imitation game ..
Trailing hormone therapy on 60,000+ Hitler laughed ..again.
Tragic
Report edy February 22, 2021 12:27 AM GMT
Finally someone appeared on this forum that rambles on more incoherently than I always do.Love
Report casemoney February 22, 2021 1:21 AM GMT
"The Uk mortality rate will be much higher than for the World overall due to our aging population and unhealthy lifestyles.
Im certainly prepared to believe that in places like India the death rate is no greater than that for flu and there is evidence to support that."

Most Countries with low Life Expectancy have very few Covid deaths , people more likely to die of
starvation . That doesn't seem to matter, lets spend Trillions on Vaccines ETC While people are
still starving and have NO  access to clean water ,you cannot make it up TBH  ,and Post co-vid
Starvation and NO water will still be on the back Burner .
Report shiny new shoes please February 22, 2021 1:24 AM GMT
Love edy..Love me .. I'm flattered..lol..
Report shiny new shoes please February 22, 2021 12:07 PM GMT
13 or more  so-called zoonoses are responsible for 3 million+++ human deaths every year.

Animals to be given masks and nappies
Report Giuseppe February 22, 2021 1:08 PM GMT
could be semi-annual
Report JetLoneStar February 22, 2021 2:24 PM GMT
I notice still no link to where you got your 99.97% Covid misinformation from. Was it from a right wing racist conspiracy site?


Really fond of that term aren't you Mex? Covid 'misinformation' now directly linked to right wing racist conspiracy groups.

The loony left really are so transparent, I do find it fascinating how political covid has become - the emotional left believing everything they hear, as opposed to the right asking critical questions. Ofc the main difference being the left trying to censor anything that invades their safe bubble echo chambers Laugh
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 3:20 PM GMT
i think he heard one of the big lads say it
Report Mexico February 22, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
Jet

I can only assume 19 is terribly ashamed of where he found his 99.97% misinformation from.
There is often a link between conspiracy theories and right wing racist sites.

So isn’t it a reasonable question? All 19 or yourself have to do is provide a link to where this percentage comes from. Then we will know if from another right wing racist conspiracy site or not.

Simples.


Oh I see 19 has replied to your post but once again refused to provide a link to his Covid misinformation.

What a surprise. Guess he is ashamed?
Report shiny new shoes please February 22, 2021 5:40 PM GMT
Should all animals be vaxed
zoonoses.. Kills..millions.
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 5:46 PM GMT
mex,
show me the real figures if mine are wrong.if you cant its time to zip it.
Report Mexico February 22, 2021 7:23 PM GMT
19

A link

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Another link....

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/



Without seeing where you got your misinformation from it is difficult to understand what on Earth you are on about. If they are real figures then place a link on the forum so they can be read.

Stop being so rude 19 & provide a link to where this 99.97% came from.

Are you ashamed that they are from a right wing racist conspiracy site? If not just post the link. Simples l
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 7:29 PM GMT
you are lying again mex,this doesnt concern you as you arent effected
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 7:49 PM GMT
i will when you prove they are wrong.keep trying.

have you lost your job? have any of your family? are you still on full pay? are you real?
Report Mexico February 22, 2021 7:57 PM GMT
19

Stop being so rude,

Everybody has been effected by coronavirus, I really don’t know why you don’t think that is the case. Are you paying income tax & NI to financial help this country? I expect to pay a few thousand pounds extra ove next few years.

I have provided a link to government data about number of vaccines, cases, hospital admissions, deaths. They are very very different from the figure you posted.

So where do you get your Covid misinformation from? Was it from a right wing racist conspiracy theory site?

Just provide a link then we can see if that stat has any merit or is garbage. Are you ashamed of that figure? Is that why you refuse to provide a link?
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 8:05 PM GMT
you have copied and pasted your last post.

give in you are making a show of yourself.
Report Mexico February 22, 2021 8:28 PM GMT
19

Did you learn how to copy and paste?
You were posting some lies about your notebook wouldn’t allow you to.

Any chance of providing a link to your Covid misinformation stat?

Are you bothering to pay income tax and NI to financially hep the country in this pandemic.
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 8:34 PM GMT
LaughLaughhow tedious you are.prove me wrong
Report edy February 22, 2021 9:11 PM GMT
He can't prove you wrong because you'll always come back with "yeah, but it's on another ONS page that you haven't found yet, ye ol' dummie ya!"

I taught you how to copy and paste links, nineteen points. You are just hiding behind the same ol' lie so you can't have to back up anything in your continued misinformation campaign. It is very uncool, brah! Sad
Report edy February 22, 2021 9:11 PM GMT
*so you don't have to back up anything
Report Giuseppe February 22, 2021 9:17 PM GMT
dinara safina
Report nineteen points February 22, 2021 9:28 PM GMT
let him speak for himself
Report duffy February 23, 2021 3:21 PM GMT
Someone explain to me what will stop another rise in infections when everyone starts to mix again in bars, restaurants etc when the majority of those very people wouldn't have had the vaccine yet.

Yes, 18 odd million have had the vaccine, but that group aren't the people who'll be down the pub on a saturday night falling over themselves trying to get served are they?
Report Giuseppe February 23, 2021 3:23 PM GMT
be a long time before we see crowded indoor pubs with no msks or social distancing, that will be one of the last things to happen
Report duffy February 23, 2021 3:56 PM GMT
As soon as the pubs and cafes restaurants are allowed to open with outdoor seating, all of them that previous never had outside areas, guess what, they'll somehow create the space just to get open.

Then in May when they can open indoors we will very quickly see shots of packed bars and restaurants, thousands on the streets of our cities with no social distancing whatsover.

It happens every time and it is an absolute certainty it will happen again.

And to my point, the majority of these people will not have had the vaccine.
Report Mexico February 23, 2021 3:58 PM GMT
Duffy

There are likely to still be rules inside pubs, groups of 6 seated with table service etc.

I prefer the table service model but would make meeting up in packed pub before football very difficult.
I wonder how many London pubs and restaurants have beer garden/pavement space for opening 12th April opening.
Report nineteen points February 23, 2021 4:01 PM GMT
duffy,answer to that is stay away and you will be fine.
Report duffy February 23, 2021 4:05 PM GMT
19,
doesn't answer my question, how will we not see a rise in cases again which we will all get the backlash from
Report duffy February 23, 2021 4:15 PM GMT
Mex,

I don't doubt there will be initial efforts to comply with guidelines but it will quickly break down, I have no doubt at all that within a very short time we will see the shots, of packed bars and streets full of youngsters who haven't had the vaccine, spreading it all about.
Report Giuseppe February 23, 2021 4:21 PM GMT
duffy if we had all been doing that last spring covid would have been over in a month
Report Mexico February 23, 2021 4:34 PM GMT
Duffy

That has been an issue from day 1.

Most places will be fine and owners/ managers really trying to keep within the rules. There will be places which will be full of bare faced 20 somethings trying to start another lockdown. The police will do f all.

Is a shame that the taxpayers been put through so much pain by the selfish few .
Infection rate is much lower in West Country compared to large cities, yet they need to wait months to open up.
Report duffy February 23, 2021 4:37 PM GMT
People continually miss the point, all the old and vulnerable getting vaccinated will decrease deaths, but that isn't what causes the NHS to come under pressure, which in turn causes more lock downs, it's all those that will be clogging up the pubs and bar in 2 months time that will shortly after start to clog up hospital beds for weeks on end refusing to die that brings the NHS down.

We should have held off until all the pub goers et al have been vaccinated, then they go clog the bars and streets up until their hearts content.

As it stands, we have another lock down incoming IMO
Report nineteen points February 23, 2021 4:43 PM GMT
duffy, who's to say thats not they want? however at some point in time however much some dont want it,we have to let go of the apron strings and find our feet again.as everyday passes now more harm than good is being done.
Report wolf3011 February 23, 2021 4:44 PM GMT
Given that we have the worst death rates in the world from the precious NHS maybe its time it was scrapped if the only way to protect it is locking people away continually.
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