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Report casemoney May 8, 2021 4:35 PM BST
How would you bet if there was a vote PP , LONG ODDS ON YES ?
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 4:37 PM BST
A vote on what?
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 4:43 PM BST
libdem votes more soft than a mr softee icecream in a microwave
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 4:44 PM BST
SNP hold Edinburgh Pentlands
Report casemoney May 8, 2021 4:48 PM BST
The Indie vote FFS wot you think Laugh Would you say YES was short odds on ?
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 4:48 PM BST
greens beat labour in a glasgow seat -- ScaredExcited
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 4:50 PM BST

May 8, 2021 -- 10:48AM, casemoney wrote:


The Indie vote FFS wot you think  Would you say YES was short odds on ?


No

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 8, 2021 4:53 PM BST
Bbc in full tory spin mode, dont
count any non snp members...

The court, should it be required, are fully
aware of bbc spin and tory lies, having
past experience of them.
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 4:54 PM BST
SNP hold Glasgow Kelvin
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 4:54 PM BST
SNP hold Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 4:57 PM BST
if libdems stay at 4 , they cant ask a question each week at FMQs

Excited
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 4:59 PM BST
Every seat in Glasgow, Dundee and Aberdeen returned SNP MP’s. Significant gains in Edinburgh.
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 5:02 PM BST

May 8, 2021 -- 10:57AM, xmoneyx wrote:


if libdems stay at 4 , they cant ask a question each week at FMQs


If they give their votes to the tories, they have only themselves to blame. Willie Rennies days could be numbered.

Report akabula May 8, 2021 6:56 PM BST
https://twitter.com/i/status/1388859799475994626

The snp celebrating in George Square tonight. At least no overall majority.
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 7:09 PM BST
LIBDEMS raging only 4 seats Excited
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 7:12 PM BST
Lib Dems lose major party status.  The culmination of ten glorious years of #WinningWithWillie
Report akabula May 8, 2021 7:14 PM BST
What now for Salmond and Galloway?

How many list seats are the Lib-Dems expected to get?
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 7:18 PM BST
Lib dems have lost 75% of their deposits and dropped below the Greens to become fifth party. Willie Rennie is jubilant because he's thick as mince.
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 7:19 PM BST
libdem 0 list
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 7:59 PM BST
Number of Labour seats in each Holyrood election -

1999: 56
2003: 50
2007: 46
2011: 37
2016: 24
2021: 22 (projected)

Anas Sarwar: "We're on a journey, I recognise that."
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 8:11 PM BST
tory Annie Wells gets back into Holyrood with 2,698 votes. CryDevilWhoopsWink
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 8:26 PM BST
SNP 64

one short of a majority
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 8:26 PM BST
NEW: George Galloway humbled after failing to get elected to Holyrood.

SNP source says: "His hat had more chance of being elected."
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 8:33 PM BST
FINAL SCOTTISH PARLIAMENT SEATS:

SNP ~ 64 (+1)
Conservative ~ 31 (nc)
Labour ~ 22 (-2)
Green ~ 8 (+2)
Lib Dem ~ 4 (-1)
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 8:55 PM BST
salmond beat galloway

@AlbaParty
won 44,913 votes
(1.7%)

George Galloway's
@Alliance4Unity
23,299 (0.9%).
Report sofiakenny May 8, 2021 9:14 PM BST
count Binface would have crushed those two eejits.
Report politicspunter May 8, 2021 9:14 PM BST
A brilliant election with Galloway, the predator and many others contributing to some good laughs, wild opinion polls, biased bloggers and above all, superb betting markets. Enjoyed every minute Grin
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 9:38 PM BST
thx pp - some great posts
Report keyboard_line May 8, 2021 9:47 PM BST
cheers pp
Report xmoneyx May 8, 2021 11:33 PM BST
george galloway farewell message to scotland

https://twitter.com/JimMonaghan10/status/1390441269416140800?s=20
Report politicspunter May 9, 2021 9:22 AM BST
Laugh
Report politicspunter May 9, 2021 12:45 PM BST
Has Willie Rennie resigned yet? He actively encouraged LibDem supporters to use their vote to support unionist parties in constituencies, who then mostly voted for that same unionist party in the regional list, thus ensuring that no LibDem regional list MSPs were returned to Holyrood. Now, as they only have four MSPs, one below the minimum, they are not recognised as a parliamentary group and have lost the right to be represented on committees or allowed questions to the First Minister at questions. His position is untenable.
Report keyboard_line May 9, 2021 12:57 PM BST
My brain is clearly not wanting to let go of this election. Woke up today dreaming of nicola sturgeon! She was feeling vulnerable and looking to me for reassurance, wtaf, haha, it was quite a pleaasant dream
Report xmoneyx May 9, 2021 12:58 PM BST
msm always use libdem MP house of commons jardine

west of edinburgh corstorphine is the only libdem conclave edinburgh

rest is SNP except south
Report keyboard_line May 9, 2021 12:58 PM BST
as for rennie, will he stay or will he go, who knows. will it make any difference either way, probably not
Report xmoneyx May 9, 2021 1:00 PM BST
willie

zoo keeper gorgie park farm Excited
Report keyboard_line May 9, 2021 1:03 PM BST
im sure he'd enjoy that Grin
Report rock piper May 9, 2021 1:19 PM BST
Is there any particular reason that Orkney and Shetland remain LD strongholds?
Report politicspunter May 9, 2021 1:32 PM BST

May 9, 2021 -- 7:19AM, rock piper wrote:


Is there any particular reason that Orkney and Shetland remain LD strongholds?


They have had some excellent MPs and MSPs over the years and in those island communities the personality and approachability, combined with strong local knowledge is a strong reason to continually support them over the years. There are signs though that the SNP are making inroads. Shetland result yesterday...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2021/scotland/constituencies/S16000142
.

Report sofiakenny May 9, 2021 2:21 PM BST
If they indyref2 today the result would be a coin toss...however as times goes by and the true effects of brexit kick in and the current govt envelopes itself further in a sea of lies cronyism and corruption then I think you will find the desire for independence in Scotland will snowball hugely..time will tell.
Report rock piper May 9, 2021 2:42 PM BST
The Western Isles were LibDems once if IRC so I suppose it is only a matter of time before Shetland joins the inexorable movement that will deliver freedom for Scotland.
Report xmoneyx May 9, 2021 2:48 PM BST
British Electoral Politics
@electpoliticsuk
·
3m
NEW:

Members of the Cabinet think an early election could be called in spring 2023.
Report politicspunter May 9, 2021 4:33 PM BST
politicspunter • May 6, 2021 8:51 AM BST
I thought the electoral commission had tried to stop confusing names being on the ballot but have you heard of this lot?

https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/parties/party:293/independent-green-voice

Independent Green Voice. What does that suggest to a normal voter? They support independence and they are the Green party perhaps? Wrong! They are a unionist party who are above the Scottish Green Party on the ballot paper in five of the Scotland regions.


Remember these chancers? They cost the Scottish Green Party two seats. One in the Glasgow region...

Independent Green voice  2210 votes
Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party 37027 votes
Scottish Green Party 36114 votes

..and one in the South Scotland region...

Independent Green Voice 1690 votes (How apt!)

Labour 19,075 votes

Scottish Green Party 18,964 votes
Report politicspunter May 9, 2021 5:34 PM BST
Total List Vote:

SNP ~ 1094374 (40.3%, -1.4)
Conservative ~ 637131 (23.5%, +0.6)
Labour ~ 485819 (17.9%, -1.2)
Green ~ 220324 (8.1%, +1.5)
LD ~ 137152 (5.1%, -0.2)
Alba ~ 44913 (1.7%, +1.7)
AFU ~ 23299 (0.9%, +0.9)
Oth ~ 69273 (2.6%, -1.9)

You have to ask what exactly diddy parties like Galloway hoped to achieve other than to split the unionist vote and give us some laughs along the way. The predator finished up exactly where polls suggested he would.
Report rock piper May 9, 2021 6:17 PM BST
Slightly over 50% for pro-independence parties on the list.
Report politicspunter May 10, 2021 10:02 AM BST
Scottish election 2021: The numbers behind the result

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-57047907
.
Report politicspunter May 10, 2021 10:08 AM BST
https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/scottish-election-2021-how-the-snp-was-denied-a-majority-by-tactical-voting-professor-john-curtice-3230002
.

Scottish election 2021: How the SNP was denied a majority by tactical voting – Professor John Curtice
Report xmoneyx May 10, 2021 10:24 AM BST
even then snp increased their vote , an just one seat short
Report xmoneyx May 11, 2021 1:21 AM BST
edinburgh south

libdems lost deposit in a seat they once held
Report keyboard_line May 11, 2021 2:14 AM BST
please do or do not give generously
Report xmoneyx May 11, 2021 3:39 PM BST
billboard advertising is about £36 a day
Report mmmalushka May 11, 2021 7:54 PM BST
looks like the dirty tricks brigade have cost  the Greens two s

In the very high quality Open Democracy, yesterday, by Peter Geoghegan:

When I unfurled my two-foot-long, peach-coloured list ballot paper on Thursday, my eye was drawn to a logo of a leaf with ‘Green’ in capital letters. This was the ‘Independent Green Voice’. Thanks to investigative site the Ferret – which, full disclosure, I chair – I knew that Independent Green Voice was a tiny party whose five candidates included two former British National Party activists and a man accused of Holocaust denial (he denies the allegation). But did all Scottish voters know this? There are plenty of signs that they didn’t. While far-Right candidates such as Britain First leader Jayda Fransen won just 46 votes in Glasgow, the anti-immigrant, anti-EU Independent Green Voice won thousands of votes. How come? How many of these voters thought they were voting for the Scottish Greens? These voters mattered. In Glasgow, for example, where Independent Green Voice took 2,210 votes, the Green Party fell 914 votes short of a second seat on the regional list. In South of Scotland, the Greens were just 115 votes short of taking a seat. Independent Green Voice won 1,690.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/did-dark-money-and-dirty-tactics-swing-scottish-election/

This is an extremely serious matter. How on earth did the Electoral Commission allow this?

Why are the Greens not taking action? Are they?
Report politicspunter May 11, 2021 7:56 PM BST
From up thread...

politicspunter • May 9, 2021 4:33 PM BST
politicspunter • May 6, 2021 8:51 AM BST
I thought the electoral commission had tried to stop confusing names being on the ballot but have you heard of this lot?

https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/parties/party:293/independent-green-voice

Independent Green Voice. What does that suggest to a normal voter? They support independence and they are the Green party perhaps? Wrong! They are a unionist party who are above the Scottish Green Party on the ballot paper in five of the Scotland regions.

Remember these chancers? They cost the Scottish Green Party two seats. One in the Glasgow region...

Independent Green voice  2210 votes
Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party 37027 votes
Scottish Green Party 36114 votes

..and one in the South Scotland region...

Independent Green Voice 1690 votes (How apt!)

Labour 19,075 votes

Scottish Green Party 18,964 votes
Report xmoneyx May 12, 2021 9:21 PM BST
wings over scotland

packed in today Excited

left a message on site

not haapy
Report politicspunter May 12, 2021 10:22 PM BST
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19298427.wings-scotlands-stuart-campbell-announces-quitting-blogging/
.

He is not a happy chappie is he? Laugh
Report politicspunter May 12, 2021 10:24 PM BST
I didn't read any of his stuff during the election campaign but going by the tone of his bitter departure, he must have been a supporter of the predator?
Report xmoneyx May 12, 2021 11:01 PM BST
salmond met him at his house last summer

wouldnt be surprised if alba was stu,s project
Report politicspunter May 13, 2021 11:11 AM BST
Alex Salmond’s political future in doubt after dismal Scottish election

https://www.ft.com/content/a3c72759-1711-4030-b4a9-c27af083e82e?sharetype=blocked
.
Report politicspunter May 13, 2021 6:02 PM BST
Scottish Greens MSP Alison Johnstone to be new presiding officer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-57087382
Report thegiggilo May 13, 2021 6:34 PM BST
https://twitter.com/BellRibeiroAddy/status/1392887571588521984


CoolLoveTo live in a decent country..the tory filth can't stop this..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 13, 2021 7:27 PM BST
A good turn out

Patel playing politics in sturgeons
back yard.
Report xmoneyx May 21, 2021 10:28 AM BST
Salmond’s Alba, Galloway’s All4Unity candidates ran their election campaigns from the same Mail drop addresses as Scottish limited partnerships.ExcitedCry
Report politicspunter May 21, 2021 10:51 AM BST
No surprise there, Galloways gang split the unionist vote allowing two SNP MSPs to be elected.
Report xmoneyx May 29, 2021 12:49 AM BST
gordon brown secret meeting with prince william holyrood palace WhoopsWink
Report xmoneyx June 1, 2021 1:14 PM BST
holy batfcuk

Alba Party List Vote
@GraemeHa++ton

I'd take Thatcher over Sturgeon right now. She may have been a devil but an honest one. Under the current SNP leadership you have no idea where the knife is coming from.
Report politicspunter June 1, 2021 1:21 PM BST
Wow! Who are these people? No wonder they didn't win a single seat in the Holyrood elections.
Report xmoneyx June 1, 2021 1:26 PM BST
really twisted

not this

former SNP MP writes a blog

hes one of the founders of ALBA

he posted so much shate before scottish elections
Report xmoneyx June 2, 2021 1:55 PM BST
Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross is self-isolating in a hotel after coming into contact with a person who has now tested positive for Covid Excited
Report feedthepony June 2, 2021 2:01 PM BST

Jun 1, 2021 -- 7:21AM, politicspunter wrote:


Wow! Who are these people? No wonder they didn't win a single seat in the Holyrood elections.


but you're an English tory - surely you like Thatcher? Confused

Report xmoneyx June 2, 2021 4:51 PM BST
Scottish Tory minister David Duguid has tested positive for Covid-19.

The MP for Banff and Buchan was in Peterhead with Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross on Monday

Excited
Report xmoneyx June 4, 2021 10:59 AM BST
Westminster voting intention:

CON: 46% (+3)
LAB: 30% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (-2)
REFUK: 2% (-1)

via @YouGov, 02 - 03 Jun
Chgs. w/ 28 May
Report xmoneyx June 4, 2021 11:09 AM BST
Alba


Kenny MacAskill has advocated Home Rule for Scotland as a compromise position between nationalists and unionists


they fought scottish election who wasn't independent enough  ExcitedWhoops
Report politicspunter June 4, 2021 11:11 AM BST
He should resign and allow the electorate to decide in a by election who they wish to represent them. Folks like him that swap parties in mid term have no justification for remaining in their position.
Report xmoneyx June 7, 2021 2:00 PM BST
A survey commissioned by Gordon Brown's anti-independence organisation Our Scottish Future asked respondents to rate their support or opposition to independence on a scale of 0-10.

Support (6-10): 55%
Oppose (0-4): 38%
Neutral (5): 8%

Removing neutrals, that's Yes 59%, No 41%
Report xmoneyx June 15, 2021 4:31 PM BST
SNP Win tribunal.

The UK Government have been ordered to release secret polling on attitudes towards the Union & Scottish independence after an SNP MP won a Freedom of Information (FOI) appeal.
Report feedthepony June 15, 2021 4:32 PM BST
Bet it's pro union and the SNP look foolish
Report xmoneyx July 6, 2021 5:56 AM BST
whats the diff between george galloway an a gypsy ?

a gypsy has been to less constituencies
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:26 PM BST
Police Scotland says it has received seven complaints in relation to donations made to the SNP, and "after assessment and consultation with
@COPFS

we will now carry out an investigation".

Force is appealing for anyone with information which may assist them to come forward.



this is very serious - could topple snp leadership
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 12:27 PM BST
Interesting. Do you have any links to that please?
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:30 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-57345473
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 12:32 PM BST
Thank you.
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:34 PM BST
Some background to this row here - Nicola Sturgeon has insisted that "every penny" from indyref2 crowdfunders will be used for that campaign, and that there is "no legal requirement" to hold it in a separate account in SNP's (independently audited) budget

"no legal requirement" to hold it in a separate account

thats worrying statement because the crowdfund for indyref2 was suppose to be ring fenced 600k
Report akabula July 13, 2021 12:35 PM BST
Not sure why politicspunter needed a link as this story has been going for months now and he commented on it on another thread.
Report akabula July 13, 2021 12:37 PM BST
With the ring-fenced amount £600k and the audited books showing a balance of only £92k I don't think I believe wee nippys explanation.
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:44 PM BST
need to double check £600k figure
Report akabula July 13, 2021 12:48 PM BST
need to double check £600k figure

That was the figure quoted in the original claim. What are you saying it is?
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:50 PM BST
yeah former snp treasurer admited it is 600k
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 12:52 PM BST
also many who contributed are from the YES movement
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 1:24 PM BST
SNP response:

“We will cooperate fully with any investigation.
"As we have made clear, all sums raised for independence campaigning will be spent on independence campaigning.”
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 1:31 PM BST
Does anyone know for certain exactly what the investigation is regarding?
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 1:33 PM BST
Is the allegation fraud for example ?
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 1:37 PM BST
Police Scotland said they were assessing a fraud allegation relating to £600,000 of funds “to determine if an investigation is required”.
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 1:39 PM BST
Ah, thanks.
Report xmoneyx July 13, 2021 1:44 PM BST
this is huge because most of the funding is from YES movement NOT SNP

was crowdfunded for SNP to deliver indyref2
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 1:54 PM BST
Surely if a blatant fraud had been committed by person/persons known/unknown, the police would have dealt with this long before now?
Report politicspunter July 13, 2021 1:57 PM BST
If this crowdfunded donation went directly to the SNP and not some third party organisation, I am not sure of the strength of this complaint. If I donate 100K to the Conservative Party, asking for it to be used for a certain purpose, would it be fraud if it was used by the party but not every single accountable penny was used for the purpose I specified?
Report xmoneyx July 18, 2021 9:46 AM BST
fraud probe has been launched by Police Scotland’s financial crimes unit after seven ­complaints that more than £600,000 raised by activists was diverted by the SNP for other purposes.

The Sunday Mail has learned officers have now begun proactively contacting former party officials and it is expected SNP chief executive Peter Murrell – who is married to Sturgeon – will be interviewed.
Report akabula July 18, 2021 10:01 PM BST
Strange that since this story broke months ago (I started a thread on it) Murrell has never been seen.
Report akabula July 18, 2021 10:02 PM BST
I doubt btw that the defence of I can't remember will do much good here.
Report xmoneyx July 19, 2021 12:40 PM BST
Happy Birthday to FM of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon
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