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frog1000
14 Feb 21 12:50
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We are now entering the end game of this.

First it was 'three weeks to flatten the curve' and then it was 'it is only a mask for ten minutes in a supermarket' and now it is a full electronic surveillance state.

For months they have been denying people will have to take the vaccine for domestic use,

Raab finally admitted this morning on LBC that it is being looked at.

Remember no evidence any vaccine reduces transition or stops you getting Covid.

This is purely the tool being used to introduce an electronic social credit system into the UK.

Same thing likely to happen to fly on holiday.

So the old and vulnerable will be allowed on holidays this summer whilst the young and healthy that have not being asked for a vaccine are held in the UK.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14045626/brits-covid-vaccine-passport-pub-or-restaurant/

BRITS may have to show a vaccine passport to go to a pub or restaurant Dominic Raab suggested today.

Proposals to introduce documents to let immunised Brits lead a normal life are “under consideration” he said.

Whitehall has been looking at plans for vaccine passports to families to go on foreign holidays again.

But this is the first time a Cabinet minister has broken cover to say that businesses in the UK could use them to let in or bar punters.

He told LBC: “It is something that hasn’t been ruled out and is something under consideration.

“But of course you have got to make it workable.

“The thing, when I have looked at this – whether it is on the international, domestic or local level – you have to be confident the document being presented is something you can rely on.

“That it is an accurate reflection of the status of the individual.

“I am not sure there is a fool proof answer in the way it is sometimes presented. But we will look at all the options.”
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Report wolf3011 March 1, 2021 8:10 PM GMT
No one really know how long the immunity is with the UK vaccine so even if it was the same wave its possible to catch covid more than once. I know a health worker that has had it 3 times which must be rare but it's not implausible that vaccines done around the new year will provide little or no immunity by autumn ever with the strains we know about
Report frog1000 March 1, 2021 8:10 PM GMT

Mar 1, 2021 -- 2:07PM, Giuseppe wrote:


the issue is they thought manaus had herd immunitythis shouldnt have happened a second timeeither they over estimated numbers infected in first waveor variant in first wave didnt protect against P1


Surely if it was so bad it would be all over Brazil by now?

The rate there is under 120 per 100k.

This thing about how you manage hospitals and care homes not about the general population.

Report Giuseppe March 1, 2021 8:11 PM GMT
NY city has 84k deaths

not sure if this is the city or the metro area
Report Giuseppe March 1, 2021 8:13 PM GMT
"I know a health worker that has had it 3 times which must be rare"

it's more likely there was an error in the testing in my opinion

you can test positive months after being infected

if she was actually sick three times i would be surprised
Report wolf3011 March 1, 2021 8:17 PM GMT
No she wasnt sick ( at least not the 2nd/3rd time), she states she was positive 3 times and is of fairly reputable character working in the NHS but who knows
Report Giuseppe March 1, 2021 8:21 PM GMT
as an NHS worker she's probably tested very regularly, the more they test you teh more likely that some of these wil back positive
Report Giuseppe March 1, 2021 8:22 PM GMT
take two people at random

test one every day for a year

test the other only once every fortnight

who will come back with more positive tests?
Report SontaranStratagem March 1, 2021 9:09 PM GMT
"covid-pneumonia"

Jesus christ how much more obvious can it be spelled out?
Report wolf3011 March 1, 2021 9:41 PM GMT

Mar 1, 2021 -- 2:22PM, Giuseppe wrote:


take two people at randomtest one every day for a yeartest the other only once every fortnightwho will come back with more positive tests?


precisely so its likely more people have had it twice than we realise diminishing the likelihood of long term immunity even further

Report Giuseppe March 1, 2021 9:50 PM GMT
remnants of the virus stay in your system for months and can trigger a positive test later

hypothetiecal situation

i get covid,

after a month keep me in a bubble and test me every day for a year

do you think all 365 of these tests will come back negative?
Report wolf3011 March 1, 2021 10:05 PM GMT
Ive no idea, we know there are false positives- the valid data would be how many people have been hospitalised due to covid in a short time more than once but even then its likely there will be an underlying condition leading to the hospitalisation so it would be an element of guesswork to what was the main factor in the ill health( covid or health condition) was. Death certificates have " covid " on it when there is simply guessing going on or outright lies
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 12:41 PM GMT
out of interest, if you have posted on this thread, how qualified are you to hold a valid opinion?

you are...

A. a virologist
B. an epidemiologist
C. a medical doctor (with a different specialism to virology/epidemiology)
D. a doctor with a non medical doctorate
E. someone with a post Grad qualification (in a biological science)
F. someone with a post Grad qualification in a non biological but a scientific discipline
G. a graduate in a scientific discipline
H. a graduate in a non-scientific discipline
I. you're not a graduate but you have 'common sense'
J. you have neither academic qualifications nor any common sense

what are you?  C'mon now, don't be shy.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:07 PM GMT
the people you have listed have all been wrong so far
Report Dotchinite March 2, 2021 1:08 PM GMT
Even by this forums low standard thats a ridiculous post.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:09 PM GMT
I'll start listening to A, B, C and D when they can explain what is happening in Belarus and why numbers are only average in Sweden
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:10 PM GMT
Sweden has ignored most of their advice and it has made fukk all difference

also, how many of A B C and D were expecting us to still be in lockdown after 12 months?
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 1:14 PM GMT
sorry if you're not covered by one of those categories dotch  Sad
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:17 PM GMT
"we're going to lock you down for 18 months until everybody has had their mandatory vaccine"

I don't remember hearing this last spring

now either A B C and D weren't expecting this, or they were lying to us, which is it?
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 1:20 PM GMT
sorry that you feel you have been lied to Giuseppe Sad
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:22 PM GMT
"pubs in Dublin will be closed for 18 months"

I don't remember hearing this
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
actually dotch, I withdraw that apology. I think everyone has to be in at least one of those categories.

Giuseppe is clearly angry about what he thinks A, B, C and Ds have or haven't said about pubs in Dublin, so although he hasn't said so, we can assume he isn't somebody with a doctorate.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
can we judge people by their record of gegting things right please, and not by the letters before or after their name?
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 1:34 PM GMT
gegting everything right all the time isn't as easy as you make it look
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 1:35 PM GMT
have they got anything right at all?
Report shiny new shoes please March 2, 2021 1:36 PM GMT
2 trillion u.s.a
No edition ban
No minimum wage
Joe wtf..LaughLaugh
Report shiny new shoes please March 2, 2021 1:36 PM GMT
Eviction
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 2:48 PM GMT

Mar 2, 2021 -- 6:41AM, bigpoppapump wrote:


out of interest, if you have posted on this thread, how qualified are you to hold a valid opinion?you are...A. a virologistB. an epidemiologistC. a medical doctor (with a different specialism to virology/epidemiology)D. a doctor with a non medical doctorateE. someone with a post Grad qualification (in a biological science)F. someone with a post Grad qualification in a non biological but a scientific disciplineG. a graduate in a scientific disciplineH. a graduate in a non-scientific disciplineI. you're not a graduate but you have 'common sense'J. you have neither academic qualifications nor any common sensewhat are you?

Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 2:48 PM GMT
And this is why we're in the mess we are in

What happened to "my body my choice"??
Report Johnny The Guesser March 2, 2021 3:04 PM GMT
Don't have the vaccine. Why just keep repeating the same guff ?
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:10 PM GMT
I wont
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:28 PM GMT
The absolute BS on the news

There's a lone "brazilian variant" running round but they're zoning in on him and they've narrowed it 300 odd households LaughLaugh

This lot are painted as "incompetent" one minute but Cluedos the fooking next its crackers
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:31 PM GMT
Bozo is being called incompetent and useless by the media for not shutting the borders (what good would that do now ffs, the nut has breached the border and is running wild BROTHER!!!) yet him and the weird looking cant Handymancock are detective masterminds in hunting the nut down... MischiefLaugh
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 3:31 PM GMT
sonts if they don't get on top of the Brazil variant you might not be let out of your house until 2022
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:32 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/AwgEornwvYE

He's going to save yas LaughLaugh

Giuseppe, I wont be staying in mate, its all a big joke to me
Report shiny new shoes please March 2, 2021 3:34 PM GMT
Brazil nuts are jam-packed full of selenium, a mineral that's strongly correlated with supporting normal thyroid function.
ExcitedLoveLaugh
The hunt is on..ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:36 PM GMT
The hunt for the Brazilian will be a spectacle to behold

One for the books... Crazy
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:37 PM GMT
Hunting down droplets Wink
Report TimmyRiggins March 2, 2021 3:49 PM GMT
Certainly some drips in here.
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:53 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/11bCY7Nfvn0

But.. But.. We left the EU?

And here they are... the "health passports" LaughLaugh

When they say they are "thinking" about bringing about something, make you think you're debating it... "they" already HAVE brought it in.
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 3:58 PM GMT
"Its only a mask"

That went well for them, the utterly sack of useless drooling cants
Report shiny new shoes please March 2, 2021 4:02 PM GMT
The World Economic Forum  faced a barrage of criticism before deleting a social media video which praised coronavirus lockdowns for “quietly improving cities around the world”.
Lockdowns have destroyed cities, lives & economies. Yet climate change zealots see them as tools of control
Strong words Crazy
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 4:06 PM GMT
there was some woman on sky news today trying to tell us climate change had directly killed 1,500 people in UK because of heat waves
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 4:17 PM GMT
'trying to' ?

or she was telling you that, and you (shock) know better?

perhaps you are also an expert in climatology without the necessary academic qualifications?
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 4:30 PM GMT

Mar 2, 2021 -- 10:06AM, Giuseppe wrote:


there was some woman on sky news today trying to tell us climate change had directly killed 1,500 people in UK because of heat waves


It wasn't the heat that killed them it was the fact they had underlying health conditions that were intensified because of the heat, and a fair few of them didn't have the brains to find a way of keeping cool in the shade and keeping hydrated

But lets blame the weather LaughCrazy

Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 4:34 PM GMT
she was really saying that our CO2 emissions were what killed them

no one would be talking about this if they thought climate change was a antural phenomenon unrelated to human CO2 emissions

so

1 - to what extent do human emissions influence climate change?

2 - to what extent were these heatwaves caused by climate change?

3 - how many people died due to the heatwave?

4 - who were these people and how long did they have to live? generally heatwaves don't kill healthy people


1 and 2 are not clearly established

3 the easiest to calculate

4 not mentioned by her at all
Report wolf3011 March 2, 2021 4:35 PM GMT

Mar 2, 2021 -- 9:36AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


The hunt for the Brazilian will be a spectacle to behold One for the books...


The hunt has been narrowed down to two people,  professor plum ( charlie) with the werthers originals in the kitchen or Miss scarlett Edy CD, scribbling down another childish picture with the anti psychotic meds in the drawing room.

Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 5:59 PM GMT
I wouldn't be surprised at this point if they actually blamed it on a peanut
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 6:04 PM GMT
it's fascinating to hear 'one of them' in action (where one of them is a bone fide expert, unqualified, in everything, that the true experts are not actually experts).

We are now witnessing a non-qualified expert in virology veer into climate change denial (in which he or she is also non-qualified). 

you need to be quite confident (or extremely ignorant) to claim you know better than specialists who are both brighter than you, and who spent years studying their chosen field.
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 6:16 PM GMT
I suppose you cannot realise you are ignorant if you are indeed ignorant?

begs the question of these self proclaimed experts:  are you expert in everything? or just virology and climate change?

why didn't you go the conventional academic route in these disciplines? what a loss to mankind that you kept your potential brilliance above the mainstream scientific fray, accessible only to the betfair forum.   Sad
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 6:17 PM GMT
I haven't done anything to anyone, never harmed a soul in my life

If people think they are going to bully me into believing their utterly ridiculous cr*p and thus force me into possibly sticking poison in my body, just so Sally Knickers across the street can go to Ibiza for a fortnight... they are sadly mistaken.
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 6:18 PM GMT
Go to Ibiza for 2 weeks if you want, but take it up with the utter loons telling you this cr*p not me
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 6:19 PM GMT
People worrying about catching COVID via people they are passing in the street have serious problems ever getting over this pandemic in terms of living life again.

Pretty much sums it up
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:28 PM GMT
mate, the brightest minds in our society are not conducting research on climate change at obscure universities

many of these academics are perfectly mediocre

read some of the papers they write, get past the at-first impenetrable language and, in many cases, you will start to doubt both their  competence and their impartiality
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:31 PM GMT
it's the logical conclusions they draw

their assessment of probability

this isn't stuff you can teach
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:32 PM GMT
ask yourself how long they would last in the private sector, or away from academia
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 6:43 PM GMT
well, I bow to your potential expertise in the private sector, but I think your (implied) assumption that all private sector individuals are somehow forging a bright path through some difficult terrain may be somewhat misguided. I speak only from personal experience, but I know plenty of perfectly successful private sector individuals who are, to use layman's terms, as thick as pig ****.  I also know academics who are brilliant.  And who aren't.

Generalities are dangerous. 

The idea that the bright minds who specialise for many years in a chosen field, can somehow be 'out-thought' in their own field, by the collective might of a few betfair forumites, is unlikely to play out in reality. 

As it's a betting forum; you're 5000/1 to be a self taught expert in both virology and climatology.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:49 PM GMT
"The idea that the bright minds who specialise for many years in a chosen field, can somehow be 'out-thought' in their own field, by the collective might of a few betfair forumites, is unlikely to play out in reality."

you're overthinking this

on any given topic they are either right or they're wrong

the fact is that virologists haven't a fukking clue what is happening with covid

their advice has achieved little and they are conceited and full of self-importance

as I posted earlier when some of these "experts" can explain to me what is happening in Sweden or Belarus i will start to take them more seriously

I don't need to spend years studying something to see that there is little real world correlation between adoption of masks, lockdowns etc and deaths per capita
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:52 PM GMT
one of the arguments often proposed by climate change activists, when you ask them how they can be sure about the impact of man made CO2, is literally "we have accounted for everything else, it must be anthropogenic CO2"

their conceit is beyond belief
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 6:54 PM GMT
do you think Churchill and Roosevelt let the generals (specialists in their field, years studying etc) tell them what to do in WW2?
Report wolf3011 March 2, 2021 7:06 PM GMT
The fact all these supposed "experts " all disagree with each other on virtually everything closes down any argument they know what they're talking about dead in the water.
Report bigpoppapump March 2, 2021 7:52 PM GMT
Oh my, talk about a good example of straw man arguments.

Because I correctly point out that people posting here about virology and climatology are (at best) self taught, we now have to witness an attempt to defend the idea that 'anyone can be an expert in anything' based on the false premises that Churchill and Roosevelt (lol) were geniuses (presumably responsible for victory in war) despite the idiot military advice they received from the miscredited military 'experts'.

I'll lay anyone any price they like, no poster on this thread has a PhD in virology or epidemiology.

The more certain you are that it's not necessary to study formally in a given field, the less likely you are to be an expert in ANY field.
You genuinely do not understand expertise.  That's okay, you're allowed not to be an expert. Funny that you think you know better though.

Laugh
Report wolf3011 March 2, 2021 7:56 PM GMT
"I'll lay anyone any price they like, no poster on this thread has a PhD in virology or epidemiology."

I'll lay any price you dont either yet you keep appearing on threads offering your expertise and opinions
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:05 PM GMT
"You genuinely do not understand expertise."

i judge expertise by results, not qualifications
Report Charlie March 2, 2021 8:10 PM GMT
judge expertise by results, not qualifications

You need a fair degree of expertise to judge results and not just jump to ill-informed conclusions. Some furry friends do just that and try and hump your leg.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:13 PM GMT
i need a lot of expertise to interpret deaths per capita figures? how many years studying do i need?
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:14 PM GMT
most of us have one years worth at this stage
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:15 PM GMT
you sound like those catholic priests in the middle ages

"don't worry about any of that, let us interpret the bible for you"
Report Charlie March 2, 2021 8:23 PM GMT
And you sound like one of the many people who say 'I don't need qualifications because I know everything'.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:29 PM GMT
trust the experts, but also make sure they are performing
Report Charlie March 2, 2021 8:32 PM GMT
Trust them? I think you mean trust them if they agree with what you want. You appear to be an expert on many things according to the number of posts you have recently.
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:33 PM GMT
i want them to get us out of this mess

are they doing that?
Report Charlie March 2, 2021 8:37 PM GMT
i want them to get us out of this mess

Who do you mean by them?
Report Giuseppe March 2, 2021 8:45 PM GMT
SAGE, NPHET

is it conceivable they are wrong?

if so, who gets to decide whether they are wrong?

SAGE and NPHET themselves?
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 11:08 PM GMT
Stop moaning and get down the doctors mate, as said it's more hassle than it's worth to rearrange it for a few weeks later.



Get the jab, enjoy life and await for the pubs to reopen


12 months ago you'd have been called a fruit cake if you said "health passports" were on the way and they would be needed for everything

Now its just accepted but we're still fruit cakes...

You have to question peoples intelligence, not just that but its blatant cognitive dissonance whilst at the same time they've acknowledged its the "new normal"... how the feck did we produce so many spineless and stupid people ffs
Report SontaranStratagem March 2, 2021 11:09 PM GMT
Sometimes I can't think what to say when listening to them

20 years ago Bill Cooper predicted all this, he was labelled a whacko, and he's still labelled that despite everything he said coming to pass

Its actually something to behold
Report TimmyRiggins March 3, 2021 12:33 AM GMT
Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expanded in Behold a Pale Horse. By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.

UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material that Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents was actually plagiarized verbatim from their research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks. Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.

Cooper linked the Illuminati with his beliefs that extraterrestrials were secretly involved with the United States government, but later retracted these claims. He accused Dwight D. Eisenhower of negotiating a treaty with extraterrestrials in 1954, then establishing an inner circle of Illuminati to manage relations with them and keep their presence a secret from the general public. Cooper believed that aliens "manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religions, magic, witchcraft, and the occult", and that even the Illuminati were unknowingly being manipulated by them.

No idea why anyone would think he was a whacko. Seems like an interesting chap Cool
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 12:42 AM GMT
no mention of lizards? amateur stuff
Report TimmyRiggins March 3, 2021 1:51 AM GMT
Dave must have wanted his own USP, so went with those Grin
Report bigpoppapump March 3, 2021 11:41 AM GMT
my car has a problem, please can someone here help?

I'm not interested if you are a mechanic because the Queen was a mechanic in the war and Churchill ignored his generals (or something), so there's every reason to assume a random betfair forumite will know the score.

anyone?
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 1:26 PM GMT
mechanic is a good analogy

when a mechanic tells you that you need x, y and z you should never doubt them
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 1:27 PM GMT
well mr, that sure is more than i was expecting to get done, but i guess you're the expert so here's my wallet
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
a lot of people on here would have knowledge of cars and engines by the way
Report Mexico March 3, 2021 2:42 PM GMT
Big

You really should be asking why your car has a problem and why you want to pay money for a mechanic.

The worldwide elite have been controlling transport for centuries through taxes, laws to when you must stop and go. Can you believe the elite can put an freedom loving hero just for driving at the speed they want after choosing to consume legally obtained beer.
The government track you by registration plates and even force people to have a driving license. THEY even put computers in YOUR car.

Now as you have discovered the lizards have stopped your car working so you are forced to use a mechanic .

Follow the money, stand up for free maintenance, the Nazis used mechanics to repair cars, don’t be a sheep.

Having a vaccine is part of the plan to force you to use a mechanic. In a free society there wouldn’t be traffic lights. It is all control.

Is a great 5 hour “documentary “ in loontube which explains the link between cars, lizards, moon landings ,Israel, Bill Gates, 9/11, and Covid.


Meanwhile UK pushing ahead with the vaccination program and number of cases and deaths are falling.
Good news all round.
Report Giuseppe March 3, 2021 2:44 PM GMT
there are no lizards
Report shiny new shoes please March 3, 2021 6:05 PM GMT
HSE seems can't give vax away  ..
Maybe by 2025 ExcitedLaugh
Report shiny new shoes please March 3, 2021 6:15 PM GMT
Rte start conspiracy files ..
U.k. Main source !!!
The machine is in free flow
Report bigpoppapump March 3, 2021 6:47 PM GMT
6,000 daily cases today. Well done everyone, nearly there, we can do this

Happy
Report sageform March 3, 2021 7:31 PM GMT
I would not go into a pub if they gave me £10 to spend.
Report lfc1971 March 3, 2021 7:53 PM GMT
There are some professions in which you know more than the experts
Report shiny new shoes please March 3, 2021 10:41 PM GMT
Businesses leverage up so much are not viable .. Busted ExcitedLaughLaugh


Allied pathogen ecology want harder lockdowns
The fourth wave or Reich is coming September
This will take years .. Yes years Excited[:laugh:
LaughLaugh
Report shiny new shoes please March 3, 2021 10:50 PM GMT
12,000+  thru Dublin airport last week

Gov. Defends travel .. Hypocrites
The push for travel cert continues ..
Report shiny new shoes please March 3, 2021 10:56 PM GMT
Stop demonizing travel says gov...
Safe a life to travel ..ExcitedLaughLaugh
Europe will force thru in months ahead
Fly&die slogan
Report shiny new shoes please March 4, 2021 12:17 AM GMT
Save a Greek job
Fly & tan lines free
Sure it's only ur gran..
We've all in  this 2gether ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report sageform March 4, 2021 7:52 AM GMT
Whatever people are allowed to do, those who catch it from new arrivals or party goers have not FOLLOWED THE RULES! Assume everyone else has it and keep well away.
Report shiny new shoes please March 4, 2021 12:52 PM GMT
Corporations in the COVID-19 era  are acquiring new troves of consumer data through partnerships with government, and deploying new technologies to surveil workplaces and customers.
Fly to Spain for equine herpes Cry
Report Dotchinite March 4, 2021 1:08 PM GMT
Over 40% of people in their 80s have broken the rules after they were vaccinated. How selfish.  Lets hope we dont need any future lockdown where they need the young to comply again.
Report SontaranStratagem March 4, 2021 2:12 PM GMT
The "jab" was suppose to get us "back to normal"

"Its just a mask"

FFS

People are spineless
Report SontaranStratagem March 4, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
Best part about is in the US

800,000 a week applying for unemployment benefits yet the media over there say its dropping and everyone is in work

Baffling eh
Report bigpoppapump March 4, 2021 3:39 PM GMT
it would be baffling if you hadn't just made it up

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/economy/unemployment-benefits-coronavirus/index.html
Report shiny new shoes please March 4, 2021 11:29 PM GMT
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Feed me your data ..
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