3,150 from 112,807 have had 'Health Impact Events' after 1st Dose

frog1000, are you Insider Trader?

That is quite a lot,roughly 1 in 30,a bit different to being told it is "safe"

hello pa,
this is the reason i have said i would rather wait a while to see how things pan out.then after a while make a decision,unless of course i get coerced into it to live/enjoy a decent life.however if you say these things you are labelled,anti vaxxer,conspiracy theorist etc.i would of just said it was common sense but there you go.

Hello 19, yes,no one said that seemingly high number,knew a few would have a bad reaction but still.
I suppose the clue was the keeping an eye on you for a half hour after it.
Not much of a life at the moment,keeping away from everyone and not being able to do much what you took for granted before would sway me towards the vaccine queue.

surely if things get opened up slowly they cant discriminate against them who cant have it.i have 2 in my family who wont be able to be vaccinated.

I shouldn't think so, i wonder at what point/percentage of people to take it to make it effective though? quite high i imagine.

once the over 70s get done it should ease

Cheers frog1000.
Wait til the undiagnosed unhealthies and the multi meds types get at what number then?
Suppose most won't give a fck such an ageist society we live in imo.

*get at it*

Another thing this is the number they are reporting,could be far worse imo.

'leaving them unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional'..ie pretty much anyone in a nursing home !...nonsense

514 pregnant women had had it by 18th December. Doubt they will be in nursing homes.

great what about the other 112,000 ?

Crikey they're dosing the preggos as well!!! God bless America

1,775,925 people have had a terminal health impact event after contracting COVID-19

Almost everyone who allegedly died with 'covid 19' was already ill,very little to do with 'covid 19'.

Those figures of 3150 / 112,000 are from America, which is predominantly using the Moderna vaccine.

As far as I know, the Moderna vaccine has NOT been approved for use in the UK yet.

You probably believe that.

Dec 28, 2020 -- 4:04PM, politicspunter wrote:

frog1000, are you Insider Trader?

He should at least have the decency to vehemently deny it instead of being rude and always ignoring the question, shouldn't he?

Given schools are the ripest breeding grounds for the virus in recent months, does it not make sense to promote all teachers and teenagers to the front of the queue for the vaccine? Given you have hundreds of people in one place, it's also great logistically as you can simply send half a dozen nurses and have a school done in a couple of hours. Got to be better than the inevitable closing of schools for a month.

I get the argument for vaccinating the vulnerable first but given the virus is currently rampaging, would it not be more beneficial to approach it from the other angle and stop the transmissions between young and healthy people, while the vulnerable hunker down for a little while longer?

Great idea....let's make our teenage kids (I have 2) the guinea pigs for the most rushed through vaccine in history

Vaccination strategies if we get a really large number of doses of the AstraZeneca / Oxford vaccine are worth discussing, as getting lots of high transmission people vaccinated in a short space of time through school or workplace approaches would affect the pandemic significantly. I don’t think that’s how it will pan out though.

On the OP, you really need to know what a health impact event includes. Given that fevers are very common after vaccination, a high proportion of them could be a day off work with a temperature and perhaps a Covid test to make sure it’s the vaccine doing it, not that the person was incubating Covid.

**unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional

so..yeah...basically everything because your arm hurts a bit or something.

There is already another thread on it btw

https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/31681399/anaphylaxis-following-m-rna-covid-19-vaccine-receipt#flvWelcomeHeader

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Dec 28, 2020 -- 9:21PM, Fatslogger wrote:

On the OP, you really need to know what a health impact event includes. Given that fevers are very common after vaccination, a high proportion of them could be a day off work with a temperature and perhaps a Covid test to make sure it’s the vaccine doing it, not that the person was incubating Covid.

Less of the non-melodramatic posting please, Fatslogger.

what responsible parent would let their children be vaccinated against something that doesnt affect them.especially prepubesant kids.

"what responsible parent would let their children be vaccinated against something that doesnt affect them.especially prepubesant kids."

your parent(s)?

How are schools more of a breeding ground than any supermarket?

Again today, in my Tesco superstore, 4 workers walking round with no masks on. 2 supervisors as well.

In contact with 1000s and 1000s of people. Touching products.

Some one on here said, supermarkets not allowed to do have these unmasked staff working in main store, but obviously not true.

Asked Tescos months ago, why the staff had no mask on. Because they are vulnerable said the store.....

and how many supermarket staff have caught this deadly virus?

How many elderly people have they passed in on to?

"and how many supermarket staff have caught this deadly virus?"

Is the answer 2 (your parents)

none if the elderly wear their masks surely

Dec 28, 2020 -- 9:28PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:

Dec 28, 2020 --  9:21PM, Fatslogger wrote:On the OP, you really need to know what a health impact event includes. Given that fevers are very common after vaccination, a high proportion of them could be a day off work with a temperature and perhaps a Covid test to make sure it’s the vaccine doing it, not that the person was incubating Covid.Less of the non-melodramatic posting please, Fatslogger.

Sorry, I do realise I’m unfashionable. I try to slag other posters off and get into the odd feud, at least. Sadly, Crips has gone somewhere.

Dec 28, 2020 -- 10:02PM, Fatslogger wrote:

Dec 28, 2020 --  9:28PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:Dec 28, 2020 --

Dec 28, 2020 -- 10:02PM, Fatslogger wrote:

Dec 28, 2020 --  9:28PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:Dec 28, 2020 --

Not sure what's up with quoting... I soon realised what the >500 posts in the other thread were, when I asked if I had missed anything

Dec 28, 2020 -- 6:03PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

Given schools are the ripest breeding grounds for the virus in recent months, does it not make sense to promote all teachers and teenagers to the front of the queue for the vaccine? Given you have hundreds of people in one place, it's also great logistically as you can simply send half a dozen nurses and have a school done in a couple of hours. Got to be better than the inevitable closing of schools for a month.I get the argument for vaccinating the vulnerable first but given the virus is currently rampaging, would it not be more beneficial to approach it from the other angle and stop the transmissions between young and healthy people, while the vulnerable hunker down for a little while longer?

27 kids aged 0-19 have died with a positive Covid 19 test within a 28 day period in English Hospitals EVER.

21 of those kids had a pre-existing condition.

Who in their right mind would inject millions of kids with a vaccine that has unknown effects on fertility and appears from the OP to have other side effects given the extremely low chance of any of them dying?

Dec 28, 2020 -- 10:17PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:

Not sure what's up with quoting... I soon realised what the >500 posts in the other thread were, when I asked if I had missed anything

There are two (at least) quoting bugs on the forum.

One is triggered if you try to quote a post that contains a double space. Like  so. If you try to quote my post now, it will display up to "Like", cut off before the "so".

What happened to you though was the triple quote bug. I.e You posted Fatslogger (first quote, the one where you said he should be more melodramatic - 8:28), fatslogger then quoted you quoting him (2nd quote, 9:02). When you then tried to quote him quoting you quoting him, it triggered the triple quote bug.

Dec 28, 2020 -- 9:35PM, nineteen points wrote:

what responsible parent would let their children be vaccinated against something that doesnt affect them.especially prepubesant kids.

An insane one, is it even licensed for kids the vaccine for the terrifying covid?

If you've spent much time around Tettenhall Road, you're probably already immune, wolf


@ edy

I see, cheers.

Garbage software, at best.

The great thing is: I think the triple quote bug is quite new. I think it was introduced after a downtime during which they also removed a workaround for the double space quoting bug . Previously you could precede your posts with > to escape the double quote bug, but no more.

Not quite sure why they went through the trouble of "fixing" the workaround, while keeping the original double space bug and adding a new one for us to play with.

I can just about construct a legible sentence, so danger of me working anything more complex than that out.