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politicspunter
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Multiple markets up now from various firms on 2024 President plus Democratic and Republican candidates.
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Report dave1357 April 5, 2024 1:50 PM BST
There are two green scenarios. Green on one (or more selections) and neutral on others. This is only going to be paid when one of the greens wins, but stake will be freed. The other scenario - green on everything, I'm not sure, I still think in horse racing profit is only released at settlement, maybe because of a non-runner possibility? Maybe it is by specific markets.
Report Jack Bauer "24" April 5, 2024 3:05 PM BST
Profit on the exchange is only released when the market is settled either in full as with most markets, or partially settled as with the Premier League for example.
Report askjack April 5, 2024 9:20 PM BST

Apr 5, 2024 -- 3:05PM, Jack Bauer "24" wrote:


Profit on the exchange is only released when the market is settled either in full as with most markets, or partially settled as with the Premier League for example.


Jack's right. The bet will be settled in full according to the rules: This market will be settled once both the projected winner is announced by the Associated Press and the losing candidate concedes. If the losing candidate does not concede, or if there is any uncertainty around the result (for instance, caused by recounts and/or potential legal challenges), then the market will be settled on the winner decided by Congress, on the date on which the Electoral College votes are counted in a joint session of Congress.

If you are a 'rump backer and have taken odds below 2.5, you will likely lose every penny unless you are very lucky.

However, if you have consistently placed lay bets on The 'rump...

Happy days!

To recover the stake money simply back The 'rump.

Tick Hunters 101.

Report askjack April 5, 2024 9:27 PM BST
Donald Trump
2.08
£1.00
£1.08
Ref: 342274869134
Matched: 04:04 21-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.08
£1.00
£1.08
Ref: 342274908839
Matched: 04:05 21-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.08
£2.00
£2.16
Ref: 342102367776
Matched: 22:17 18-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.08
£2.00
£2.16
Ref: 342353003698
Matched: 00:14 22-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.08
£3.00
£3.24
Ref: 342535939268
Matched: 17:47 23-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.1
£0.23
£0.25
Ref: 341984992839
Matched: 16:22 17-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.1
£2.27
£2.50
Ref: 341984992838
Matched: 16:22 17-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.12
£3.00
£3.36
Ref: 337840356249
Matched: 08:30 11-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.12
£3.23
£3.62
Ref: 337921271998
Matched: 18:32 11-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.14
£3.00
£3.42
Ref: 342831894277
Matched: 21:00 26-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.16
£5.00
£5.80
Ref: 337820500818
Matched: 21:14 10-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.18
£5.00
£5.90
Ref: 337726546653
Matched: 12:20 10-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.18
£5.00
£5.90
Ref: 337771496838
Matched: 16:41 10-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.2
£2.87
£3.44
Ref: 343002058059
Matched: 22:08 28-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.2
£3.00
£3.60
Ref: 337546555682
Matched: 18:23 08-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.22
£3.00
£3.66
Ref: 339844688506
Matched: 20:22 28-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£0.44
£0.55
Ref: 336204100601
Matched: 14:08 27-Jan-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£1.47
£1.82
Ref: 343074925704
Matched: 17:12 29-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£1.53
£1.90
Ref: 343074925704
Matched: 17:12 29-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£2.56
£3.17
Ref: 336204100601
Matched: 14:08 27-Jan-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£3.00
£3.72
Ref: 343054992371
Matched: 15:33 29-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.24
£3.80
£4.71
Ref: 343086535019
Matched: 18:24 29-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.26
£2.00
£2.52
Ref: 343295346737
Matched: 02:08 31-Mar-24
Donald Trump
2.26
£10.00
£12.60
Ref: 343620129918
Matched: 19:14 02-Apr-24
Donald Trump
2.28
£2.73
£3.49
Ref: 337343723574
Matched: 17:33 06-Feb-24
Donald Trump
2.34
£3.00
£4.02
Ref: 343838314234
Matched: 21:00 04-Apr-24
Donald Trump
2.36
£5.00
£6.80
Ref: 343926830715
Matched: 19:01 05-Apr-24
Donald Trump
2.84
£5.00
£9.20
Ref: 325184572575
Matched: 22:50 18-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.88
£5.00
£9.40
Ref: 324369655633
Matched: 14:25 11-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.88
£5.00
£9.40
Ref: 325851127519
Matched: 19:16 23-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.9
£5.00
£9.50
Ref: 323291193842
Matched: 20:57 02-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.9
£5.77
£10.96
Ref: 323269077093
Matched: 18:02 02-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.92
£5.00
£9.60
Ref: 324143963230
Matched: 00:43 09-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.94
£5.00
£9.70
Ref: 325413183434
Matched: 20:54 20-Oct-23
Donald Trump
2.98
£5.00
£9.90
Ref: 322601420700
Matched: 02:09 28-Sep-23
Report dave1357 April 5, 2024 9:55 PM BST
Another issue preventing the settlement would be that a new candidate can be added at any time, making even greens on every other candidate, theoretical.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 6, 2024 9:41 AM BST
P Diddy has been getting a lot of press lately.
Report blank April 6, 2024 4:46 PM BST
Trump matched at 2.6 outright about 20 minutes ago, I didn't get any, I think that's the cash-out at work when someone has a big green and there's not much backing money up.
Report blank April 7, 2024 2:57 PM BST
New piece that touches on where the electoral college is relative to the popular vote.

.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/electoral-college-question-l...
Report blank April 7, 2024 2:58 PM BST
.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/electoral-college-question-l...
Report blank April 7, 2024 2:58 PM BST
.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/electoral-college-question-l...
Report blank April 7, 2024 2:58 PM BST
.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/electoral-college-question-l...
Report blank April 7, 2024 3:01 PM BST
But a two-election trend is no guarantee of future results. And there’s another school of thought about 2024 that the GOP’s Electoral College edge may not be as pronounced, as Trump has made gains with Black and Latino voters, including in states like California and New York that won’t come close to deciding the presidential election. Even slightly better margins for Trump in those big, blue states could bring the national vote and the tipping-point state vote into closer alignment.

The question, however, is how sizable that decrease might be — if there is any. It’s an important piece of information to help gauge what the national polls really mean right now, but it’s also shrouded in mystery. 

“With Trump’s improvements among Hispanic and Black voters, the pro-GOP bias may decline by 1 to 2 points — but it won’t be erased,” said David Wasserman, senior editor and elections analyst at the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter.

“In other words, I think Trump could lose the popular vote by 2 points in November and still have an excellent chance of carrying Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada — which is why I view Trump as a pretty obvious favorite at the moment,” Wasserman added.
Report SamuelMertensBertens April 7, 2024 8:19 PM BST

Apr 6, 2024 -- 4:46PM, blank wrote:


Trump matched at 2.6 outright about 20 minutes ago, I didn't get any, I think that's the cash-out at work when someone has a big green and there's not much backing money up.


I've had a back at 2.4 on him for days and that didn't get matched.

Report blank April 7, 2024 9:58 PM BST
I'm sure it was swiped. I can remember searching for any breaking news and putting up offers in the 2.5's while the order book was being refilled, which didn't take long.
Report blank April 8, 2024 2:26 PM BST
Trump says abortion should be left to the states, could be a smart move to neutralise the issue.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 9, 2024 8:02 AM BST
Democrats argue that it's ok to kill unborn babies because they are not really human. It's the same argument Democrats used when they fought to keep slavery.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 9, 2024 6:15 PM BST
According to Rasmussen Biden is hemorrhaging black and Hispanic voters.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1777741979029311703
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Report Escapee April 10, 2024 1:43 AM BST

For the 2020 United States presidential election, Rasmussen Reports' final White House Watch survey of likely U.S. voters showed Democrat Joe Biden with a 1% lead over Republican Donald Trump, stating that "President Trump and Democrat Joe Biden are in a near tie."[7] Ultimately, Biden won the election by 4.5 percentage points. In 2018, Rasmussen Reports predicted that Republicans would win the generic ballot by 1 percentage point while the actual election results had Democrats winning by nearly 9 percentage points. This error of nearly 10 percentage points was the largest polling error out of major firms who polled the national generic ballot.[8] Rasmussen pushed back against critics after their miss, saying "the midterm result was relatively poor for Democrats compared to other midterms"


If Trump was gaining the black/latino vote then he wouldn't need to use AI generated pictures of "Blacks for Trump" in his campaigns.

Report Ronaldmcdonald April 10, 2024 10:46 AM BST
Yes I am sure Trump has nothing better to do than sit there all day tweaking AI pictures.
Report edy April 10, 2024 11:02 AM BST
No long tweaking is necessarily needed. You just enter a prompt and let the AI do its magic during a few mere seconds. Not every picture is always cool, some will contain obvious errors, but then you simply don't select that one.

Escapee didn't say he generated the pictures himself anyway. Reading carefully and comprehending text is very important, mate.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 10, 2024 11:12 AM BST
Not looking good for Biden with so many black and Hispanic voters deserting. Being the incumbent should be a huge advantage, but not with his record of bumbling from one disaster to another, and the economy.
Report Culvin April 10, 2024 11:44 AM BST
I'll be quids in if either Trump or Biden or both , pop their clogs .
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 10, 2024 11:45 AM BST
RFK Jr is very bad for Biden. The votes for Jill Stein in 2016 were more than the margin Trump won by in the swing states. When there's another choice people don't have to hold their nose and vote for Biden.
Report timbuctooth April 10, 2024 4:01 PM BST
CHORTLE at the chumps trusting AI!!! It's programmed by evil leftie globalists, so no surprise that Gemini, when asked for a picture of the Founding Fathers, (Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and co.), showed them all as being black! And German Nazi officers as black men and Asian women!!!

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/21/24079371/google-ai-gemini-generative-inac...
Report edy April 10, 2024 4:16 PM BST
Wait! Is it meant to be an endorsement and honour to be shown as Nazi officers?
Report edy April 10, 2024 4:22 PM BST
What I discovered in my own dabbling with AI image generation, although primarily Dall-E and not Gemini, was that Scots all have fabulous beards and carry their bagpipes with them to most locations. Also, if you describe a man as moderately fit, they still look a surefire winning candidate for both Mister Universe and Mister Olympia.
Report edy April 10, 2024 4:24 PM BST
Oh, and baby bunnies sometimes have four ears to engage helicopter mode.
Report edy April 10, 2024 4:25 PM BST
I think on that one the AI simply cannot decide if baby bunnies with floppy ears or baby bunnies with upright ears are more adorable, so it simply gives them both.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 10, 2024 5:10 PM BST
Many AI image generators don't understand how hands work so they have disconnected hands or the wrong number of fingers.
Report askjack April 10, 2024 6:57 PM BST
The 'rump is no longer the favourite on Betfair in the win market! Biden can retire and hand over to Harris that's my bet.
Report tobermory April 11, 2024 12:50 AM BST
If Harris took over Trump would be straight to 1.6, so she won't be, unless Biden drops dead.
Report tobermory April 11, 2024 12:54 AM BST
Trump has made gains with Black and Latino voters, including in states like California and New York that won’t come close to deciding the presidential election

I could see why Trump would gain more from minorities in NY and California, as Woke loons have done more damage there.

But highly unlikely he makes big minority gains there and none at all in the battleground states.

And we are talking about states he lost by 1% or less, so he doesn't need much of a swing.
Report yak hunt April 11, 2024 7:36 AM BST
Obviously, the GOP voters who will not vote for him under any circumstances, post January 6th, are likely to be the deciding factor.
Report yak hunt April 11, 2024 7:54 AM BST
2024 North Carolina GE:

Trump 48% (+2)
Biden 46%
.
Trump 41% (+3)
Biden 38%
Kennedy 12%
West 3%
Stein 3%

.
@QuinnipiacPoll
, 1,401 RV, 4/4-8
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3895
Report yak hunt April 11, 2024 8:04 AM BST
Trump was 10-14 points ahead in some North Carolina polls only a couple of months ago.
Report Escapee April 11, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Could RFK cause a contingent election?

where no candidate gets a majority of electoral college votes, (not happened since 1837) and the president is chosen by congress.
Report yak hunt April 11, 2024 5:14 PM BST
No.
Report blank April 11, 2024 5:21 PM BST
The expectation is that RFK's polling share will be squeezed, he has already dropped from 14% to 9% over the last 6 months. Under 5% is trading at 1.27-1.48 on smarkets.

In other independent news, Cornel West names BLM activist Melina Abdullah as his running mate.
Report Escapee April 12, 2024 2:24 AM BST
here's a weather forecast for the next few days

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK4TENhWYAAftXD?format=jpg&name=900x900
.

Laugh
Report blank April 12, 2024 2:29 PM BST
hehe. Not much money up so maybe backers are waiting for the storm to pass
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 12, 2024 6:47 PM BST
Trump back in the lead again - it's neck and neck and they're not messing about this time!!!!
Report yak hunt April 12, 2024 8:40 PM BST
Redfield & Wilton Strategies
@RedfieldWilton
·
3h
Trump and Biden are tied nationally.

First time since July that Trump has not led.

Presidential Election VI (6-7 April):

Donald Trump: 41% (-3)
Joe Biden: 41% (+1)
Robert Kennedy Jr.: 9% (+2)
Other: 2% (–)
Report dave1357 April 15, 2024 7:52 PM BST
never has there been such a grifter in the entire history of grifting

Donald Trump’s social media app suffered a $700m (£562m) hit on Monday after its parent company issued new shares in a bid to raise cash.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-truth-social-suffers-700m-184142130.html
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Report casemoney April 15, 2024 8:18 PM BST
What a state this world is in , any left of Center Including Demented Lunatics Fit the Bill Laugh

I wonder what History will make of JOE if he gets another Term Laugh

Neither of them should be running for POTUS  IMO
Report casemoney April 15, 2024 8:21 PM BST
De santis should be the REP , and TBH you could dig some one up to Replace JOE Laugh
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 15, 2024 9:21 PM BST
I am leftie and I like saying grift!!!
Report LoyalHoncho April 15, 2024 11:18 PM BST
case, come on.  Suggesting digging someone up" seems unseemly, bearing in mind the old fart could quite easily be dug in himself at any day in the run up to voting day.

Serious question:  What would happen if either or both passed away between now and the election?
Report lfc1971 April 15, 2024 11:48 PM BST
The most danger is Biden in power and not dying
Report dave1357 April 16, 2024 8:13 AM BST
trump media auditors


In January 2022, Trump Media instead turned to a smaller accounting firm to conduct the audit, BF Borgers, which has less than stellar record with regulators. The Public Company Accounting Oversight Board said it identified multiple deficiencies in every audit it had reviewed from BF Borgers in the past two years, per Bloomberg.

BF Borgers was also removed from the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants' peer review program in November "because the firm was found to be so seriously deficient in its performance that education and remedial, corrective actions are not adequate."


https://www.businessinsider.com/accounting-firm-ditched-truth-social-after-less-than-a-year-2024-4
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Report Ronaldmcdonald April 16, 2024 4:37 PM BST
It's an ingenious way to collect campaign contributions with no upper limits for big donors. Orange man loophole.
Report yak hunt April 16, 2024 5:21 PM BST
2 hours ago — Trump Media shares were down 8.5% at $24.335 in early trading.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 16, 2024 5:37 PM BST
Not a good investment for the paper handed.
Report Escapee April 16, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Is Truth Social for maga cultists only?

Does it have any famous people posting on it that aren't maga?
Report edy April 16, 2024 7:10 PM BST
The Biden Harris campaign is on there and while they are into making america great again, they are probably associated with what's commonly referred to as MAGAs.
Report edy April 16, 2024 7:10 PM BST
not associated
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 16, 2024 7:34 PM BST
What's a MAGA cultist? Is that someone who wants to pay less tax?
Report Escapee April 16, 2024 7:46 PM BST
does anyone famous post on it ronald?

who's got the biggest following apart from trump and his priests?

(Is priest the right term or is it grand wizard like the KKK and harry potter?)
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 16, 2024 10:59 PM BST
The best people to ask about that would be Democrats because they founded the KKK. Joe Biden himself once read the eulogy at the funeral of a high ranking member of the KKK. The late Senator Robert C Byrd was no less than an exalted cyclops!!!
Report yak hunt April 17, 2024 7:29 AM BST
The stock fell even more, ending the day at $22.84.
Report blank April 17, 2024 10:18 AM BST
Betfair is the only market to still have Trump favourite now.

.https://electionbettingodds.com/
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 17, 2024 1:03 PM BST
I see David Cameron has visited Trump and Mike Johnson to give them the UK perspective. He's going to need them both on board if he wants the Ukraine funding to continue after the election.
Report Charlie April 17, 2024 4:32 PM BST

Apr 17, 2024 -- 1:03PM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:


I see David Cameron has visited Trump and Mike Johnson to give them the UK perspective. He's going to need them both on board if he wants the Ukraine funding to continue after the election.


Cameron will have fck all to do with it soon.

Report yak hunt April 17, 2024 4:43 PM BST
Neither will the other two.
Report askjack April 17, 2024 5:19 PM BST

Apr 17, 2024 -- 10:18AM, blank wrote:


Betfair is the only market to still have Trump favourite now..https://electionbettingodds.com/


The 'rump's odds have always been suffering from a £2m price constipation. Things will change.

Report Journeyman April 17, 2024 9:02 PM BST
Gabbard did an extensive interview on the Lex Friedman podcast which is well worth a watch.
I think if he picked Gabbard for VP and essentially ran a basement campaign till November (albeit a basement with occasional days out to a courtroom Grin ) and let Tulsi soften the ticket and broaden its appeal then he'd be pretty much a shoe-in for the whitehouse. That's a lot of ifs but she is definitely the right pick at this point.
Report Journeyman April 17, 2024 9:08 PM BST
The Fridman interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_El9riy9Zjw

Just short of 2 hours and really taps into what drives her.
Report yak hunt April 18, 2024 12:53 AM BST
2024 National GE:

Biden 49% (+3)
Trump 46%
.
Biden 41% (+1)
Trump 40%
Kennedy 11%
West 2%
Stein 2%

.
@EchelonInsights
, 1,020 LV, 4/12-14
https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/apr2024-verified-voter-omnibus/
Report blank April 18, 2024 9:22 AM BST
Big swing from a few months ago. He is in the ascendancy at the right time to kill any talk of replacements, 99.5% locked in now imo.
Report Jack Bauer "24" April 18, 2024 5:53 PM BST
RFK is on the ballot in Michigan.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 8:12 PM BST

Apr 17, 2024 -- 4:43PM, yak hunt wrote:


Neither will the other two.


They might. Communism has never worked anywhere it's been tried. It always ends up with mass poverty and starvation.

Report Journeyman April 18, 2024 8:15 PM BST
He is in the ascendancy at the right time to kill any talk of replacements, 99.5% locked in now imo.

Joe Rogan is absolutely adamant he's being swapped out for Newsom next month.
Report Escapee April 18, 2024 8:25 PM BST
Ronald, Communism is sh1te, no one on here wants it.

But Here you are schilling for putin on a 2 bit gambling forum for $5 a day, you'd get $5 and a bowl of cabbage soup under a communist regime LaughLaugh
Report Journeyman April 18, 2024 8:35 PM BST
The press all over the mass of Kennedys endorsing Biden.

RFK Jr with this eloquent tweet.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr
@RobertKennedyJr
I hear some of my family will be endorsing President Biden today. I am pleased they are politically active — it’s a family tradition. We are divided in our opinions but united in our love for each other.
I hold this as a possibility for America too. Can we disagree without hating our opponents? Can we restore civility and respect to public discourse? I think we can.
My campaign, which many of my family members are working on and supportive of, is about healing America — healing our economy, our chronic disease crisis, our middle class, our environment, and our standing in the world as a peaceful nation.
But this will only happen if we heal our national conversation, and move from rage and fear into love and respect.

18 Apr 2024
Report Escapee April 18, 2024 8:56 PM BST

He is in the ascendancy at the right time to kill any talk of replacements, 99.5% locked in now imo.

Joe Rogan is absolutely adamant he's being swapped out for Newsom next month.


Would be really bad for putin & trump if they swapped Joe out for pretty much anyone under 70.

I'd guess that murdoch will be playing down Biden's decrepit state until they think it's to late to replace him and then they'll just show a couple of videos of him wetting himself in the last week or two and they'll be home and hosed.

Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 9:01 PM BST
Biden just told another massive whopper. He said his uncle was shot down while flying in a plane over New Guinea and he was eaten by cannibals. If anyone deserves his relatives eaten by cannibals it's RFK Jr!!!
Report Escapee April 18, 2024 9:11 PM BST
here's Biden talking about his uncle & cannibals

https://twitter.com/i/status/1780685157231386787
.

from AP news


According to the Pentagon’s Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency, Biden’s uncle, known by the family as “Bosie,” died on May 14, 1944, while a passenger on an Army Air Forces plane that, “for unknown reasons,” was forced to ditch in the Pacific Ocean off the northern coast of New Guinea. “Both engines failed at low altitude, and the aircraft’s nose hit the water hard,” the agency states in its listing of Finnegan. “Three men failed to emerge from the sinking wreck and were lost in the crash.”

The agency said Finnegan was a passenger on the plane when it was lost. “He has not been associated with any remains recovered from the area after the war and is still unaccounted-for,” according to the agency.


Seems like Biden's retelling of the story isn't noticeably different from the official military records.


Ronald, your story differs from the Truth more than Bidens story differs from the official military records.
No cabbage soup for you today.

Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 9:17 PM BST
I didn't represent the story as true. The clue was in the fact I said Biden told another massive whopper. It's not your fault, I blame the education system. I actually see you as the victim in all of this.
Report yak hunt April 18, 2024 9:30 PM BST
Escapee, Why are you wasting your time and ours by conversing with Ronald? You are ruining the thread.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 9:32 PM BST
If people like communism so much there are plenty of places which are already communist to go and live in. And communism has never worked out better for the people in any communist country.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 9:56 PM BST
Does anyone remember when google employees were crying when Trump won? And all the lefties who needed counselling? That's what Escapee is going to be like after the election. TDS is genuninely a mental illness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs
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Report blank April 18, 2024 10:11 PM BST
Joe Rogan is absolutely adamant he's being swapped out for Newsom next month.

He said Biden would have to kick the bucket to be replaced and then he got prompted about Newsom and seemingly indulged the fantasy.

I think the only chance except akin to kicking the bucket is if Trump wasn't the GOP nominee.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 18, 2024 10:29 PM BST
It's the only way Joe and Hunter can stay out of jail. First presidential race where the winner gets to stay out of jail.
Report yak hunt April 19, 2024 12:27 PM BST
New General Election Poll - Wisconsin

Biden 43% (+2)
Trump 41%

Trump was leading +3 in the last poll

Fox #15 - 4,606 RV - 4/16
Report edy April 19, 2024 1:22 PM BST

Apr 18, 2024 -- 9:17PM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:


I didn't represent the story as true. The clue was in the fact I said Biden told another massive whopper. It's not your fault, I blame the education system. I actually see you as the victim in all of this.


...So unless you specifically state that what you say is true, the automatic assumption should be that you are being creative with the truth?

Report edy April 19, 2024 1:28 PM BST
Or did you, as someone who possibly failed the education system, fail to understand that Escapee expressed that you rather unfaithfully paraphrased what Biden had allegedly said?
Report edy April 19, 2024 1:29 PM BST
what Biden had actually said
Report edy April 19, 2024 1:47 PM BST
Or did you understand perfectly well, but choose to argue a strawman to deflect from your creativity about what Biden had said?
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 19, 2024 1:54 PM BST
Biden said his uncle was a pilot when he was a passenger, and he said the plane was shot down when there was no evidence of being shot down, and he implied his uncle was eaten by cannibals. Its one tall tale after another with Biden, you can't trust a word he says. In a previous election run he had to drop out because he told so many lies. He once plagiarised Neil Kinnock's speech about being the first one in his family in a thousand generations to go to college.
Report edy April 19, 2024 2:00 PM BST
So why did you answer with "I didn't represent the story as true. The clue was in the fact I said Biden told another massive whopper."  when Escapee's criticism towards you wasn't even about Biden's story being true? It rather being about you, in Escapee's opinion, having had chosen to be more creative in your retelling of Biden's account thatn Biden was in his own retelling.
Report edy April 19, 2024 2:01 PM BST
Lakc of comprehension from your side? Compulsive lying disorder? Strawman fun?
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 19, 2024 2:57 PM BST
I am glad you asked about that because we need to be clear, Biden certainly suffers from compulsive lying disorder, he has told some absolute stinkers.
https://twitter.com/TheGeneral_0/status/1780559378787029333
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Report Charlie April 19, 2024 7:54 PM BST
It's a bit dated but will do:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
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Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

Add on another three years of lies and that is what you would call compulsive lying disorder.
Report blank April 19, 2024 8:30 PM BST
Another long term market on Smarkets. 'Donald Trump to serve as president for 9+ years by end of 2030' They want people to tie up their money for years so they can bank the interest.
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 19, 2024 10:01 PM BST
30,000 misleading claims as counted by a deranged leftie with TDS. If Trump said men can't get pregnant it would be counted as a lie.
Report Escapee April 19, 2024 10:36 PM BST
Interesting posts   19 Apr 24 22:12   &   19 Apr 24 22:31


In the

"The world's best thread to discuss all things Republicans, Democrats and two old men (2024 edition)"

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Report Ronaldmcdonald April 20, 2024 9:17 AM BST
Isn't it strange how the but-but-Trump-is-worse brigade react to criticisms of Biden and his outrageous lies and his addled brain? Their first instinct is never to defend Biden but to attack Trump. Perhaps the TDS brigade think it doesn't matter that the man in charge of the biggest nuclear button is completely brain addled.
Report edy April 20, 2024 9:53 AM BST

Apr 20, 2024 -- 9:17AM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:


Isn't it strange how the but-but-Trump-is-worse brigade react to criticisms of Biden and his outrageous lies and his addled brain? Their first instinct is never to defend Biden but to attack Trump. Perhaps the TDS brigade think it doesn't matter that the man in charge of the biggest nuclear button is completely brain addled.


True, although it doesn't even have to be an attack on Trump. The sufferers of all the biggest derangements also go on the attack instead of defence even if Trump hadn't been the target. Like so...

edy • April 19, 2024 2:01 PM BST
Lakc of comprehension from your side? Compulsive lying disorder? Strawman fun?


Ronaldmcdonald • April 19, 2024 2:57 PM BST
I am glad you asked about that because we need to be clear, Biden certainly suffers from compulsive lying disorder, he has told some absolute stinkers.
https://twitter.com/TheGeneral_0/status/1780559378787029333
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Report Ronaldmcdonald April 20, 2024 10:05 AM BST
Biden said his uncle was eaten by cannibals!!!!
Report Ronaldmcdonald April 20, 2024 10:10 AM BST
https://twitter.com/ConservBrief/status/1780680055816912903
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Report blank April 21, 2024 5:20 PM BST
.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-candidacy-hurts-trump-biden-nbc-news-poll-finds-rcna148536

NATIONAL POLL: NBC NEWS

Trump 46%
Biden 44%
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Biden 39%
Trump 37%
RFK Jr 13%
Stein 3%
West 2%


Interesting RFK hurts Trump here.
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