Jun 30, 2022 -- 6:54PM, politicspunter wrote:
Hopefully those secret service guys will come forward now.
But they can't just barge in to the hearings. The Committee has to call them, which they have 'mysteriously' failed to do.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 6:58PM, tobermory wrote:
Jun 30, 2022 -- 6:54PM, politicspunter wrote:Hopefully those secret service guys will come forward now.But they can't just barge in to the hearings. The Committee has to call them, which they have 'mysteriously' failed to do.
Hopefully they will now.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:05PM, tobermory wrote:
Hopefully they will now.Well I wouldn't get your hopes up lol. The Cassidy Hutchinson hearsay version of the car incident is the only version The Committee will want anyone to hear.And now Congress has gone on holiday for 2 weeks.
It's no problem, I am sure they will wish to testify later.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:13PM, tobermory wrote:
I am sure they will wish to testify later.They wish to testify now. The Secret Service has made it clear that all agents will testify if called upon. It's up to the committee.But they preferred to call a witness who was not there. How peculiar.
I don't see what the issue is. They are able to testify, if they wish to.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:16PM, tobermory wrote:
The only people who can testify are those called by the committee.
The committee have already asked, as recently as yesterday, for anyone who has information to come forward and approach them.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:16PM, politicspunter wrote:
No one would have known about the incident in the car without the testimony already given by Cassidy Hutchison.
Her hearsay is all the evidence that there was such an incident. And the committee doesn't look like asking the people who are actually there.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:04PM, A_T wrote:
I don't think it will be one of the biggest issues in 2024 unless trump wins the nomination which I don't think he willdon't count on that - De Santis still dodges the question - if he's GOP candidate he'll be asked that again and again.
makes sense at this time I think, keeping his cards close to his chest. if he can let trump nuke his own chances without having to get involved and pissing of the hardcore maga vote then all the better for him before the nomination is confirmed. he can clarify his stance on it then and I don't think it will be a big problem for him.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:19PM, politicspunter wrote:
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:16PM, tobermory wrote:The only people who can testify are those called by the committee.The committee have already asked, as recently as yesterday, for anyone who has information to come forward and approach them.
Yes, they want people to come forward to make up stuff about Trump: "If you suddenly remember something...". They don't want to talk to people who actually know what happened.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:19PM, tobermory wrote:
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:16PM, politicspunter wrote:No one would have known about the incident in the car without the testimony already given by Cassidy Hutchison.Her hearsay is all the evidence that there was such an incident. And the committee doesn't look like asking the people who are actually there.
It's not hearsay. There was at least one witness present when the secret service agent told her what had happened.
Jun 30, 2022 -- 7:58PM, A_T wrote:
trump brought all this on himself - he could easily clear the matter up by apologising and saying he was wrong
Trump still follows Roy Cohn's advice “Attack, don’t settle, get off the issue, never apologize”
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Jul 1, 2022 -- 6:24PM, A_T wrote:
What was De Santis' stance on "stolen election" ?so far he's dodged the question
Jul 1, 2022 -- 6:11PM, politicspunter wrote:
The only recent thing that I know for certain is that he has not requested any sort of endorsement from Trump. That suggests to me he is running, Trump or not.
How could De Santis publicly request an endorsement from Trump?
Jul 1, 2022 -- 9:59PM, tobermory wrote:
How is that corroborating Trump fighting for control of the steering wheel?And how does his wanting to go to the Capitol show that he wanted people to break into it?Do they think Trump was planning to climb through a window there
Do you still think that she was making it all up?
Jul 1, 2022 -- 10:04PM, tobermory wrote:
Jul 1, 2022 -- 6:11PM, politicspunter wrote:The only recent thing that I know for certain is that he has not requested any sort of endorsement from Trump. That suggests to me he is running, Trump or not.How could De Santis publicly request an endorsement from Trump?
Multiple GOP Primary candidates have requested endorsements from Trump, many of whom visited him at his residence in Florida.
Jul 1, 2022 -- 10:06PM, tobermory wrote:
Clearly wildly exaggerating.
Why would she? Her testimony is now being corroborated from multiple sources.
Jul 1, 2022 -- 1:40AM, Escapee wrote:
Interesting book TobermoryWe've got differing opinions on a few candidates, So take my views with a pinch of salt.I think you could squeeze another £15-20 of value by laying Hilary & Trump Jnr out to your current max red of 627, Both have about 1 million to 1 chance IMHO.
I can't recall why I backed Trump Jnr. With Hilary, i'm not sure she can be ruled out. If Kamala was the Democrat frontrunner and was 12pts down in the polls in late 2023, then I anyone who thinks they could do better would be tempted to have a go.
Jul 1, 2022 -- 10:10PM, tobermory wrote:
Her testimony was that Trump was fighting for the steering wheel and had to be dragged away.
Already corroborated that Trump did indeed lunge forward when told he would not be taken to the Capitol.
Jul 1, 2022 -- 10:12PM, tobermory wrote:
Jul 1, 2022 -- 1:40AM, Escapee wrote:Interesting book TobermoryWe've got differing opinions on a few candidates, So take my views with a pinch of salt.I think you could squeeze another £15-20 of value by laying Hilary & Trump Jnr out to your current max red of 627, Both have about 1 million to 1 chance IMHO.I can't recall why I backed Trump Jnr. With Hilary, i'm not sure she can be ruled out. If Kamala was the Democrat frontrunner and was 12pts down in the polls in late 2023, then I anyone who thinks they could do better would be tempted to have a go.
Trump Jnr always gets prompted by the GOP pollster McLaughlin and usually comes in the first three. I don't count Hillary. She is 74 now and there were doubts regarding her health in 2016.
Jul 1, 2022 -- 10:16PM, tobermory wrote:
But how can anyone know if he asked for an endorsement? The only candidates that would make a show of wanting Trump to back them would be no names that desperately need the MAGA votes. De Santis has those in the bag. He doesn't need Trump to tell them which way to vote in Florida.
A fair summary.
Jul 2, 2022 -- 11:42AM, Escapee wrote:
Hilary; When has any party given an election loser a 2nd go ? De Santis;
Jul 2, 2022 -- 12:00PM, politicspunter wrote:
Escapee • July 2, 2022 11:42 AM BSTHilary; When has any party given an election loser a 2nd go ?Trump?
He's going to be the first president to win three times
wtf are you talking about