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The death rate or hospital admissions rates have not changed in England due to shops opening, infections have actually risen since the face mask policy was implemented. Infamously the science on face mask effectiveness is incredibly weak. I believe Scotland allowed meeting other households in June, a few weeks later than England. Her policy was let England try it out first and then roll it out with a small variation if it goes well. Easy if you're not picking up the tab, and gain political capital out of deepening economic outcomes.
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Cider, don't bet on politics. You are far too biased to win consistently.
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haha I've made my money on specials usually but moved to politics for the last few elections, pretty lucrative too. It helped knowing Corbyn was going to get spanked, even during the so called youthquake
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247462-scotland-could-eliminate-the-coronavirus-if-it-werent-for-england/
Scotland could eliminate the coronavirus – if it weren't for England ... Then the paths taken by Scotland and England began to diverge. Two days after the national lockdown began, Scotland’s first minister Nicola Sturgeon created a scientific advisory group for Scotland to supplement the advice from the UK-wide Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies. “That’s probably when you started seeing more divergence,” says Sridhar. “We’ve stuck to our principles of old-fashioned, traditional, evidence-based contact tracing” Scotland has been slower to relax lockdown than England and has done so in a step-by-step way, so that each change’s effects can be measured. This differs from England’s rapid relaxation, says Sridhar. Scotland has also been more successful at building up testing and contact tracing, without banking on the UK government’s much-delayed app. “We’ve stuck to our principles of old-fashioned, traditional, evidence-based contact tracing,” says Mark. Two other factors have contributed to Scotland’s relative success, says Sridhar. The first is clear messaging. On 10 May, the UK government changed its “stay at home” slogan to “stay alert”, but Scotland stuck to the original line. It has since switched to “stay safe”. What’s more, “there is a very high level of trust in the Scottish government and in Nicola Sturgeon’s leadership”, says Sridhar. According to YouGov, as of 1 May, 74 per cent of Scottish people approved of their government’s handling of the pandemic and 71 per cent were confident in Nicola Sturgeon’s decisions. In contrast, a June poll found that 50 per cent of British people disapproved of Johnson and only 43 per cent approved of him. ... |
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Talk of bias and someone quotes the new scientist
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And they quote polls, you couldn't make it up
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I look forward to seeing your article in New Scientist telling them they are wrong.
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Have you seen me quote from right wing biased sources (there aren't many tbf)? I only quote from largely independent sources like the ONS.
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Cider • August 1, 2020 4:26 PM BST
If Scotland has made policy decisions that have led to a materially better outcome in regard to the pandemic, state explicitly what they are. It's really not that difficult, request number 7. My first request: what is wrong with what NS said? |
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Devi Sridhar is a raging lefty. That's like quoting Farage explaining why Brexit is a good idea.
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Cider, calm down. We are not all as biased as yourself.
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My second request: what is wrong with what NS said?
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That was directed at Cider.
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In 2020, Sridhar advised the Scottish government on how to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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lol
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My third request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said?
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Frankly, she is impressive, eloquent, calm , confident. An inspiring leader.
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My fourth request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said?
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I'm not going to reply any further, are you feeling a little hurt for your chum politicspunter and copying me from upthread lol
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My fifth request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said?
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It's the sincerest form of flattery, apparently.
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My sixth request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said?
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Charlie, he has run away with his tail between his legs. He has been humiliated enough for today by the looks of it.
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As if, I thought you had gone off to your Sturgeon shrine for a prayer or two.
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My seventh request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said?
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Every day you appear on here Cider, you are showing how biased you are. You are wasting your time betting on politics as you are going to lose all your money.
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You've already said that. Don't go all sleepy joe on us.
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You are showing your bias again.
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I don't believe I've ever claimed not to have political bias in my personal views. That doesn't mean I can't analyse data independently though, or criticise my own 'side' when it's warranted, or indeed defend people from opposing sides. That's a bit different to the Boris Derangement Syndrome and Nicola worshiping exhibited by many on here, yourself included.
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So let's get this right.
Cider • August 1, 2020 4:26 PM BST If Scotland has made policy decisions that have led to a materially better outcome in regard to the pandemic, state explicitly what they are. It's really not that difficult, request number 7. I post an article from New Scientist saying just that. Cider • August 1, 2020 4:53 PM BST Talk of bias and someone quotes the new scientist New Scientist is the world's most popular science and technology magazine and has been going since 1956. There is no evidence of any bias but Cider knows best: Cider • August 1, 2020 4:58 PM BST Have you seen me quote from right wing biased sources (there aren't many tbf)? He then goes onto attack one of the people quoted in New Scientist Cider • August 1, 2020 5:02 PM BST Devi Sridhar is a raging lefty. That's like quoting Farage explaining why Brexit is a good idea. Devi Sridhar is a Professor and Chair of Global Public Health at the University of Edinburgh So on the one hand we have NS being a right wing biased source and Devi being a raging lefty. Why a so called right wing magazine would publish anything from a so called raging lefty is deserving of comment from Cider. My eighth request to Cider: what is wrong with what NS said? |
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Give it up, you are so biased you are wasting your time on a politics betting forum.
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haha there you go again. I don't need your permission to post on a forum, or you to decide whether it's worth my time. If you're trying to influence me into not posting, you're going to be disappointed.
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Post all you want, I am simply telling you not to bet on politics, save your money.
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Pretty sure you referred to me posting on the forum. I'll continue to do that, and making money out of politics when there are suitable markets.
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Cider, surely you're not going to wimp out and not answer my questions.
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