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Former MP Charlie Elphicke 'chanted I'm a naughty Tory after sexually assaulting woman'
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/charlie-elphicke-chanted-naughty-tory-a4490051.html

A former Conservative MP chanted “I’m a naughty Tory” after sexually assaulting a woman and chasing her around the kitchen to try to slap her bottom, a court heard.

Charlie Elphicke, 50, allegedly talked “suggestively” about silk and leather and suggested he “liked bondage and whips” before attacking the woman in his family home.

It is said he pounced as they shared a bottle of wine, trying to kiss her and plunging his hand down her blouse before she recoiled in “horror”.

Elphicke, the MP for Dover between 2010 to 2019, is then accused of chasing her, Benny Hill-style, around the kitchen as she tried to escape his clutches.

The woman said the politician was “clearly enjoying himself” as he pursued her, and she eventually barricaded herself in a room to get away from him. However Elphicke later put the incident down to a “misunderstanding”.

Elphicke is now on trial at Southwark crown court, accused of sexually assaulting the woman in 2007 and two alleged sex attacks on a different woman in 2016.

Prosecutor Eloise Marshall QC told jurors this morning the woman was sat with Elphicke on his sofa as they enjoyed some wine, while his wife was away and their two children slept upstairs.

“Very quickly Charlie Elphicke pushed her backwards by the shoulder, back against the sofa, placed his knee in between her legs, one of his arms rigid to her side as he was directly above her”, she said.

“He came down to give her a kiss. At the same time he came down, he put his hand into her V-neck tunic dress, reached in and grabbed her right breast and squeezed it.”

Ms Marshall said the woman “immediately said no and pushed him off”.

“She was shocked, the whole incident was completely unexpected”, she said. “She ran off and as she did so Charlie Elphicke followed her.

“As he followed her, he chanted in a sing-song voice ‘I’m a naughty Tory, I’m a naughty Tory’ over and over again as if a school ground chant.

“He was very animated, excitable, and clearly enjoying himself, chanting towards her and slapping her bottom.”

The woman called her sister that night to tell her what had happened, saying she had been groped and “chased round the kitchen”.

Ms Marshall said the sister thought it “sounded ridiculous, like a sketch from a Benny Hill show”.

The alleged attack was reported to the police after Elphicke’s name was included on a published list of alleged Parliamentary sexual abusers in 2017.

A second woman, who worked in Westminster, had also accused the MP of two sexual assaults in a complaint to the Conservative Whips office in 2016.

“Although there is a period of nine years between the allegations, you will hear there are striking similarities of what they describe happening to both of them, what he did to them at the time and how he reacted when they rejected him”, added Ms Marshall.

The court heard the second alleged victim says Elphicke groped her in a Parliamentary office while they were drinking champagne and "giggled" afterwards.

Elphicke denies sexually assaulting either woman, but told police something had happened in 2007 incident when the woman was feeding chocolate stars into his mouth and became “tactile”.

He claimed they kissed and she “responded positively”, but when she said it was not what she wanted he “immediately” stopped.

Elphicke denied asking about silk and leather or describing himself as a “naughty Tory”, insisting the incident was a “regret” and said the woman had asked for £5,000 compensation which he had paid in instalments to avoid his wife finding out.

​He insists that the second woman's allegations are untrue and he was not attracted to her.

Elphicke, of Dover, Kent, denies three counts of sexual assault.

The trial, which is due to last four weeks in front of Mrs Justice Whipple, continues. Shocked

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By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Jul 20 10:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1xvyTdBZI

His name was Chaaarlee, and he drove the fastest milkcart in the west..
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jul 20 10:34
reality stranger than fiction

why did he stand down as an mp?

was it because he was a remoaner?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jul 20 10:36
or because he wanted taxes to be paid?


Elphicke investigated tax avoidance by American multinational companies and showed (October 2012) that some multinational companies, making billions of pounds of profit in the UK, were paying an effective UK tax rate of only 3 per cent.[55] He followed this by calling on George Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer to force the companies which included Google, Coca-Cola and Apple Inc[56] to have to state the effective rate of tax they paid on their UK revenues, and suggested that Government contracts could be withheld from multinationals who do not pay their fair share of UK Tax

wiki
By:
Cider
When: 07 Jul 20 10:55
Great timing Angoose!


Former Labour MP Eric Joyce pleads guilty to making indecent photograph of child

.https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/eric-joyce-guilty-indecent-photograph-child-former-mp-a4490921.html
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jul 20 11:09
Arrests[edit]

Drink driving[edit]

On 18 November 2010, he was arrested for failing to provide a breath test following a motoring incident in Falkirk. He pleaded guilty in court the following day and was fined £400 and banned from driving for a year. Joyce resigned from his position as Shadow Northern Ireland Minister and apologised for his behaviour.[28]

Assaults in the Houses of Parliament[edit]
Joyce was arrested at 22:50 on 22 February 2012 in the Palace of Westminster by the Metropolitan Police on suspicion of committing assault. He was reported to have attacked as many as six politicians,[29] including a Labour whip,[30] after having gone "berserk" following a dispute with a group of Tory MPs sitting nearby.[31][32] He headbutted and punched the Conservative MP, Stuart Andrew,[33] after striking Labour Assistant Whip Phil Wilson, while Wilson was attempting to restrain him. He also headbutted Thurrock Conservative councillor Ben Maney, and punched Basildon Conservative Councillor, Luke Mackenzie, both of whom were attempting to break up the incident.[34] Two more Conservative MPs, Alec Shelbrooke and Jackie Doyle-Price, were also caught up in the fracas while attempting to intervene and calm Joyce down.[35] A door window was smashed as Joyce attempted to resist arrest before being removed by police and taken to Belgravia police station.[36] The disturbance occurred at the Strangers' Bar (reserved for MPs and their guests).[37]

Suspended the following day from the Labour party after his arrest, on 23 February he was charged with three counts of common assault and released on police bail.[38] A fourth charge was added on 9 March.[39] He was fined £3,000 and ordered to pay £1,400 in compensation to his victims, but not given a custodial sentence.[39] In a statement before the House of Commons on 12 March 2012, he apologised personally to his victims, stated that he had resigned from the Labour Party, and that he intended to complete his current term as an MP but not seek re-election.[40]

In August 2012, Joyce was back in Court after using scissors on 4 July 2012 to remove the electronic tag that had been fitted to his leg as part of the community order; he was fined £600.[41]

A year later, on 14 March 2013, Joyce was again arrested after a disturbance during a karaoke event in the sports and social bar of the House of Commons.[42][43] He was seen outside the bar wrestling on the floor with two police officers and reportedly had one of the officers in a headlock.[44] As it was his second alcohol-related incident on House of Commons premises, the following day Joyce was given an indefinite ban by the Office of the Speaker from purchasing or being served alcoholic beverages from all Palace of Westminster premises, including its eight bars.

Joyce was released under police bail from Belgravia Police Station in London the following day, when it was revealed that he was facing a charge of occasioning actual bodily harm,[45] but he was not ultimately prosecuted.[46]

Disturbance at Edinburgh Airport[edit]
On 19 May 2013, Joyce was arrested at Edinburgh Airport after police were called to an altercation between him and airline staff regarding a mislaid mobile phone. He was reported to have struggled with police officers before being restrained on the ground and handcuffed.[47] On 21 March 2014, he pleaded guilty to a charge of breach of the peace at Edinburgh Sheriff Court and was fined £1,500 with £150 compensation.[48]

Brawl in London shop[edit]
On 17 October 2014, Joyce was arrested after clashing with a teenager at a store in Camden, in London. He was charged with two counts of common assault and one count of criminal damage. He appeared at Highbury Corner Magistrates' Court in London on 30 December 2014, where he pleaded not guilty and was given conditional bail to appear for trial.[49] On 1 May 2015, he was found guilty on two counts of common assault in an appearance at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London.[50] On 27 May 2015 he was sentenced to a 10-week jail term suspended for two years, and ordered to pay a £1,080 fine and to attend a rehabilitation course which aims to reduce violent behaviour.[51]

Charged with child sex offence[edit]
On 6 November 2018, Joyce was arrested and charged with making an indecent photograph of a child. He was given unconditional bail and his pre-trial hearing will take place on 7 July 2020 at Ipswich Crown Court.[52]




beggars belief...
By:
Kriskin
When: 07 Jul 20 11:26
goose - ur anti tory stuff is becoming a joke.  I'm NOT tied to any political party but please be try to be fair in the stories u create.  Your just like certain newspapers and their agendas all ONE way
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Jul 20 12:04
Erm, the post above is about a former Labour MP.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Jul 20 12:08
Yes, it seems there are bad apples in all parties.
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Jul 20 12:12
Sure are.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jul 20 12:14
The tory one has not been found guilty,.. Trial in progress
By:
Angoose
When: 07 Jul 20 15:12

Jul 7, 2020 -- 5:26AM, Kriskin wrote:


goose - ur anti tory stuff is becoming a joke.

By:
Angoose
When: 07 Jul 20 15:13
the curse of a double spaced post Cry
By:
Angoose
When: 07 Jul 20 15:15
Kriskin, like yourself, I have no ties to any political party.

Like yourself, I am free to post whatever I choose on an open forum, whilst remaining mindful of the forum guidelines.
Like yourself, I am free to post my perception as to the motivation of other forum users.

Like yourself, my perception is exactly that, a perception, with all of its limitations.
By:
saddo
When: 07 Jul 20 15:42
Angoose 07 Jul 20 15:15 
Kriskin, like yourself, I have no ties to any political party.




Aye, right. A shame Eric Joyce has ruined this thread  Laugh
By:
Angoose
When: 07 Jul 20 16:02
Please feel free to demonstrate any ties I have to a political party.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 07 Jul 20 17:23
Eric Joyce: Ex-Labour MP admits child sex offence.

You filthy lefty vermin.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 07 Jul 20 17:24
The guardian articles you post with gay abandon are a bit of a giveaway Angus.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 10 Jul 20 10:36
Oh noes the filthy snp have Hardeep Singh Koli doing a soapy.
By:
akabula
When: 10 Jul 20 23:13
FFS hard to believe a self confessed snp activist would want to highlight this.
Sleazy Mackay, Threes not a crowd MacNeil and You Need Hands Salmond. Any more? Yes plenty is the answer.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 30 Jul 20 15:36
Found guilty

A very naughty tory

Wife says she is leaving him

Sentence passed down in September..
By:
politicspunter
When: 30 Jul 20 16:04
He's not the Messiah..
By:
mafeking
When: 30 Jul 20 16:15
just the latest in long list of MPs (or recently chucked out MPs) who have had their collars felt in recent years. the rate of criminal conviction in the house of commons must be far higher than in the general population and they call themselves honourable members Confused
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 30 Jul 20 16:30
At least his missus got his job! Staying with him during the trial was a small price to pay for her nose in the trough. Well played Mrs!
By:
stroodle
When: 30 Jul 20 18:03
“I’m a naughty Tory” LaughLaughLaugh muppet
By:
politicspunter
When: 01 Aug 20 21:18
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-ex-minister-arrested-over-rape-qdm897rv2

Hmmm..
By:
politicspunter
When: 01 Aug 20 21:20
In the latest case, a fellow Conservative MP first raised the woman’s allegation with Mark Spencer, the chief whip, and Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leader of the House of Commons, after speaking to the alleged victim a month ago.

The woman also spoke to Spencer directly. However, no action was taken. A spokesman for Spencer said: “The chief whip takes all allegations of harassment and abuse extremely seriously and has strongly encouraged anybody who has approached him to contact the appropriate authorities, including parliament’s independent complaints and grievance scheme.”

It is understood that Spencer does not believe a sexual assault was reported to him in his conversation with the complainant, but acknowledges that she reported abusive behaviour and threats.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Aug 20 08:27
Could well be some serious implications from this. We don’t know what happened but some senior figures were asked to step up.
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Aug 20 09:32
You better believe it. If Spencer and JRM were aware of these allegations, as looks clear, and took no apparent action, they won't be the flavour of the month or anyone else that was aware of the situation. Has the whip been withdrawn from this MP as yet until there is some clarity?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Aug 20 09:37
Spencer May have told her to report it to the Police
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 02 Aug 20 12:21
Keeping name quiet.

Maybe it's because identifying accused will identify accuser.

Tory mp in 50-59 age group, ex minister

Can't be many of them.
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Aug 20 12:26
Is it Boris?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 02 Aug 20 12:34
Ex minister, think there's 4 suspects

Not Boris.


Seemingly not been charged so not named.
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Aug 20 12:42
Will send you pm.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 02 Aug 20 12:52
He was one of my 4,cheers
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Aug 20 12:53
I have ruled out David Mundell!
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Aug 20 13:07
You have to suspect that the alleged victim in this case was awaiting the result of the Charlie Elphicke trial to see if a conviction could be achieved.
By:
jumper3
When: 02 Aug 20 13:15
I cannot but help think if it was a Labour politician then this thread would have had a lot more replies!! Sounds like politicspunter is in the now. I'm sure the vast majority of us who are not part of the in crowd who are aware, media types mostly, will just have to wait until, or if, he is charged.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 02 Aug 20 13:19
It's possible that it gave her confidence to go to police.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Aug 20 14:10
Cant be difficult to work out. Age, time he left Government, Hackney? Strange if he is a still an MP! A lot of people in the frame here but for association and what they knew and did. I think the alleged perp will be revealed soon and I do not believe he should be but I just hope justice is served.
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