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Beware if you are thinking of switching vote from the Brexit Party to the Tories

eric_morris

01 Nov 19 16:04

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Farage hit the nail on the head today when he said Boris deal will lead to a campaign to rejoin the EU during the period we have no vote or say and are under the control of the European Court of Justice. We will be mesed about bigtime and the BBC, ITV, CH4 and usual Remainer media will be rubbing our noses in it to make sure that campaign is successful.

We need to leave on No Deal then get a deal that doesnt mean being still under the control of the EU.

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eric_morris When: 01 Nov 19 16:08

Force the Tories into a pact to get your vote.

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Wallflower When: 01 Nov 19 17:04

Brexit Party fighting for survival imo. This stunt by Farage is a clear bluff. Both the Brexit Party and the Conservatives know that leavers will be conscious of splitting vote. Most potential Brexit party voters will reluctantly switch to Conservatives to avoid this.

Its a result of stupid electoral system.

Now if we had proportional representation )PR) like most modern countries - you could vote for the Brexit candidate as your number one preference, safe in the knowledge that if he/she didn't make it then the vote would only then transfer to a Conservative still in the running.

This (as far as is practically possible) fully reflects voting preferences and results in having number of seats reflecting percentage of vote.

(As a SNP supporter I don't want to see PR in Scotland as with 40% of votes we'll get 80^ of seats

. But I have to accept it is completely unfair.

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edy When: 01 Nov 19 17:27

To understand why the UK must urgently leave the EU without a deal, please search for and watch "Brexit: The Movie".

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PorcupineorPineapple When: 01 Nov 19 17:29

Farage's statement was excellent.

Now, either brexiteers have to choose which version of brexit to vote for, or either Nige or Johnson caves in on their stance and looks weak.

Lovely stuff.

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edy When: 01 Nov 19 18:49

#ManagedNoDealIsTheOnlyRealDeal
#NoDealNoProblem
#CleanBreakBrexit
#SayNoToTheRecycledMayDealThatKeepsTheUKinTheClawsOfTheEU

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edy When: 01 Nov 19 18:49

#YesToTheUnion
#NoToTheEUAnnexingNorthernIreland

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----you-have-to-laugh--- When: 01 Nov 19 18:53

#faragenose

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n88uk When: 01 Nov 19 19:04

Clearly anyone that truly believes in Brexit would vote Brexit Party. Those that just do what The Telegraph and Daily Mail tell them to do will vote Tories.

By:

moisok When: 01 Nov 19 19:07

why?

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----you-have-to-laugh--- When: 01 Nov 19 19:08

The thick ones will still be brainwashed

The 17.4 million all knew what they were voting for so there cant be two different parties arguing what brexit means
after 3 and a half years, ffs

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thegiggilo When: 01 Nov 19 19:18

n88uk 01 Nov 19 19:04
Clearly anyone that truly believes in Brexit would vote Brexit Party. Those that just do what The Telegraph and Daily Mail tell them to do will vote Tories

Last time i saw one of them it was going round my u bend covered in excrement befire i had a sh1t..

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SontaranStratagem When: 01 Nov 19 19:53

Nov 1, 2019 -- 1:08PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

The thick ones will still be brainwashedThe 17.4 million all knew what they were voting for so there cant be two different parties arguing what brexit meansafter 3 and a half years, ffs

Well that's the current state for you

"leave" and "remain" were the two options, there was no "soft brexit" or "hard brexit" or "this type of brexit" options

I've said it many times but within 5 minutes of the result the BBC were running with 'will it be a hard or soft brexit'. I said at the time that was the moment people needed to kick off and burn the place down, but was told to shut up

3 and a half years later and they've created a big long drawn out movie, whereby there's 6 different parties offering their own type of "brexit".

And whilst people are arguing, they are stripping away at your rights

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SontaranStratagem When: 01 Nov 19 19:58

"remainers" are the one's screeching "but they didn't know how to deliver it"

Well there was not big "deliver", it was leave and that was that

There's no such thing as "negotiation"

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thegiggilo When: 01 Nov 19 20:08

Nigel Farage says Brexit Party plans to win over Labour voters with 'cheaper food and cheaper bras''!!

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----you-have-to-laugh--- When: 01 Nov 19 23:23

Farage likes a cheap bra ?

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eric_morris When: 02 Nov 19 00:23

Vote Brexit Party to leave the EU then get a great deal while staying out of the EU.

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eric_morris When: 02 Nov 19 00:24

Cheaper bras are very appealing once you are of a certain age.

By:

edy When: 02 Nov 19 08:19

Are man boobs a big problem in England?

By:

thegiggilo When: 02 Nov 19 09:10

https://twitter.com/rebelwarrior11/status/1171572338359447552

Target voter...

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eric_morris When: 02 Nov 19 10:12

Man boobs are a feature of middle aged men across the world. Strap up and get on with it would be my advice.

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eric_morris When: 02 Nov 19 10:20

Just for remainers, no i dont wear a bra.

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lfc1971 When: 02 Nov 19 10:48

remainers also wear matching knickers

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edy When: 02 Nov 19 11:01

Nov 2, 2019 -- 4:20AM, eric_morris wrote:

Just for remainers, no i dont wear a bra.

Why not?

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Foinavon When: 02 Nov 19 12:41

I agree with Eric that anyone who wants Brexit and not BRINO should vote for the Brexit Party. If that lets in a Labour coalition so be it. Under those circumstances we will have to relearn the lessons of the 1970s which will no doubt come as an unpleasant shock to the youngsters who naively believe in the socialist unicorns and magic money tree. We oldies are better placed to withstand proper austerity as we have experienced it before.
Edy, I sincerely hope that your dreams of a 4th Reich unencumbered by the dragging anchor of UK opposition the The Project will be realised in the very near future. Good luck.

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politicspunter When: 02 Nov 19 12:51

Support Jeremy- Vote Brexit Party!

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Mighty Whites 2008 When: 02 Nov 19 13:36

looking like boris can get a majority without the brexit party.

Only the hardest of hard brexiters are going to vote for the brexit party in seats that matter the vast majority will return to the tory fold. 80% of brexit voters approve of boris as a leader.

I doubt brexit partyy will even come close to matching ukip 2015

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politicspunter When: 02 Nov 19 13:43

Nov 2, 2019 -- 7:36AM, Mighty Whites 2008 wrote:

looking like boris can get a majority without the brexit party.Only the hardest of hard brexiters are going to vote for the brexit party in seats that matter the vast majority will return to the tory fold. 80% of brexit voters approve of boris as a leader. I doubt brexit partyy will even come close to matching ukip 2015

It really depends how many constituencies the Brexit Party stand candidates. Make no mistake, if they stand them in every one, they will seriously damage the tory vote.

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edy When: 02 Nov 19 15:28

I read that Farage could be Boris' kingmaker by collecting vital Labour votes of people that desperately want to support the Elite's pet project that is Brexit, but just would never ever vote Tories.

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thegiggilo When: 02 Nov 19 16:04

Looking at the workington poll its exactly whats happened,the reverse is happening to what they forecast labour losing votes to both,so much for that theory so in effect farage is winning the tories the election ater all..it seemed obvious at the time but these genius polls seemed to contradict saying the oppoite.And the crazy thing is farage is trying to stop the tories but actually helping them..

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edy When: 02 Nov 19 16:39

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nigel-farage-boris-johnson-brexit-party-campaign-eu-latest-a9181726.html

that's where I read it

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thegiggilo When: 02 Nov 19 17:17

Tories win 450 seats on that workington result,that would be down to the brexit party after all as normally labour voters..

By:

lfc1971 When: 02 Nov 19 17:21

I told you this before , but it’s early days
Eliminate the dirty remainers from Parliament and England

By:

lfc1971 When: 02 Nov 19 17:23

No one , no decent person , should vote labour or libdems
no, no I am not telling lies

By:

edy When: 02 Nov 19 18:02

I always think it's amazing when remainers think they are entitled to having a voice.

By:

unitedbiscuits When: 02 Nov 19 18:12

The UK is heading for the 21stC equivalent status of Greece under the "Colonels" or Franco's Spain

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Mighty Whites 2008 When: 02 Nov 19 18:32

Not sure they will seriously damage the tories PP.

Bexit and the tories are at nearly 50% in the polls but remember there are 5 million labour leave voters.

When the day of reckoning comes I can't see many tory brexiters voting brexit if their constituency is tight.

I would be surprised if Brexit party get 10% in the election and wouldn't be surprised if they took more votes of labour.

Saw a poll for workington by survation

cons 45% +3
labour 34% - 17
Brexit 13% +13
LD 5% -2
Greens 2% +2

This kinds of supports how I am seeing things. Its a labour seat. Brexit are picking up 13% but the cons are winning the seat.

Suspect Labour are going to get annihilated.

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politicspunter When: 02 Nov 19 19:08

Nov 2, 2019 -- 12:32PM, Mighty Whites 2008 wrote:

Not sure they will seriously damage the tories PP.Bexit and the tories are at nearly 50% in the polls but remember there are 5 million labour leave voters.When the day of reckoning comes I can't see many tory brexiters voting brexit if their constituency is tight.I would be surprised if Brexit party get 10% in the election and wouldn't be surprised if they took more votes of labour.Saw a poll for workington by survationcons 45% +3labour 34% - 17Brexit 13% +13LD 5% -2Greens 2% +2This kinds of supports how I am seeing things. Its a labour seat. Brexit are picking up 13% but the cons are winning the seat.Suspect Labour are going to get annihilated.

Somehow I don't think that one poll in one constituency that the tories are currently favourite to win anyway is a fair representation. There is a long long way to go.

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Mighty Whites 2008 When: 02 Nov 19 19:19

But the poll is suggesting that the brexit vote is impacting on labour more than the tories. Remember in the last election teresa got 42.6% of the vote only 200,00 less votes than Blair in his 97 landslide so a significant proportion of the population voted tory last time.

Labour racked up a huge number of votes last time I just cant see that holding up if brexit stand in the north and midlands they will take a big chunk of labour votes and that will be enough for the tories to win tight seats.

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politicspunter When: 02 Nov 19 19:29

Nov 2, 2019 -- 1:19PM, Mighty Whites 2008 wrote:

But the poll is suggesting that the brexit vote is impacting on labour more than the tories. Remember in the last election teresa got 42.6% of the vote only 200,00 less votes than Blair in his 97 landslide so a significant proportion of the population voted tory last time.Labour racked up a huge number of votes last time I just cant see that holding up if brexit stand in the north and midlands they will take a big chunk of labour votes and that will be enough for the tories to win tight seats.

It's not suggesting that to me.