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Why Leavers Are So Scared Of A Second Referendum
Why Leavers Are So Scared Of A Second Referendum
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Going back to the original question on this post I think leavers would be unhappy about another referendum.
Pretty obvious the stitch up question would be to split the leave vote and nobody is going to stand for that as it would embarrass this country and expose the EU for what they are. Obviously there couldn’t be another simple leave or remain question as it’s obvious that the remain MP’s wouldn’t allow us to leave again. There won’t be another referendum for those reasons The end. |
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Funnily enough, I am coming round to the opposite view. We are at a complete impasse.
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I am thinking the same,thought another referendum was a stupid idea but seems the logical choice an election based around brexit is just utter nonsense..
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Suddenly, the Labour dithering begins to look less like dithering and more like a genuine way forward.
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I'm with PP. Never wanted a second ref as I fully understand the "you didn't accept the first result so want a new one...how many more" type arguments.
That changed a while ago though. Pretty clear that there just isn't a majority in Parliament. Something needs to change and I'm not sure even a GE is the right answer seeing as people will be voting for far more than the party's brexit position and there's a ridiculously good chance of another tight majority that gets us nowhere. I'm of the view that a new referendum at least gives some clarity to the public's current opinion and then gives some legitimacy to the government choosing a particular course of action. At the minute, we have a government adopting a policy based on self interest, not the public's and an opposition that desperately wants to support remain but is afraid of being called undemocratic in doing so. We've gotten ourselves in a right pickle, and a second ref seems to be the best way out of it. |
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One thing there must not be is a 2nd Referendum because it is anti-democracy. Instead all the MPs must work towards fulfilling the result of the Referendum whether they agreed to it or not; they must not think they know better or more intelligent than the electorate. Also, they must not have their own agendas, but instead facilitate Brexit - the people had already spoken.
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Education is a wonderful thing, and the whole nation will learn to embrace the beauty of democracy being strengthened through the application of more democracy.
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you can have your referendum, in 40 years. But thats 40 years after democracy has been enacted,
and would have been 2056 and not 2059 (at the earliest) if the losing side didn't keep stalling it.  |
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Yes, you’re right Angoose.
Leavers are convinced that they would lose a re-match. They gave no faith in their own ideas. |
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Leavers have no faith in their own ideas and feel very insecure in their arguments; as well they might.
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How is a second referendum anti democratic?
3 successive Conservative Governments have failed to deliver Brexit! Fromage would never accept the fight was over if the country voted Remain. They have had over 3 years to sort this mess out and failed! The “ will of the people “ needs clarification. Either through a General Election or another Referendum. The impasse needs to be broken |
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Well indeed remainers had great faith in their own viewpoint in the referendum.... and lost
Brexiteers were not so arrogant , but won That’s probably how it is |
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Of course Farage would have campaigned to change people’s minds I suppose if he had lost
But he would have accepted he had lost. Unlike the undemocratic bad losers |
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Of course Farage would have campaigned to change people’s minds I suppose if he had lost
But he would have accepted he had lost. Unlike the undemocratic bad losers No he wouldn't; he said something to the effect that it the Leavers lost by a close vote they would try again |
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I don’t really need to explain. why parliament has failed , so far , in its duty
To respect the referendum result and leave the EU Hopefully their delaying tactics are coming to an end soon |
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Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.”
Guess what remain lost by such a margin so he should accept his own words for a re-run ... or does he lie like Johnson |
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If course he would try again Geordie , but that would only be after he had accepted the result
We are still waiting for remainers to do that |
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Everyone agreed to accept the result , or of course we all assumed people in Britain were like that
Now we know different |
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Farage said himself that he would keep campaigning if Leave lost by 52-48
So he is a liar if he now refuses a 2nd referendum for the other side if the vote was close Typical leaver ... hypocrites the lot of em |
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Farage would only have continued to campaign to leave the EU if
leave had lost and we were still in the eu Remainers can continue to campaign. once they accept they lost ref and we are out of the eu That seems fair , sobyrr snd think logically George and stop throwing silly insults that don’t make any sense |
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Farage's statement is pretty much explicitly him stating that he wouldn't accept it and would continue to fight to Leave. I mean, how dumb do you have to be not to see it. If you really think his words meant "I'm going to accept it and come back in 40 years or so" then you need to hand in what remains of your brain to reception on the way out.
Jesus, the stupidity of this place sometimes. |
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There’s pineapple there no point spelling things out to him
He’s too stupid to understand even when that is done for him |
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Farage would only have continued to campaign to leave the EU if
leave had lost and we were still in the eu Leave won and Farage is still campaigning to leave the EU. Either you're lying, you're stupid, or Farage is lying. Or all 3 to be fair. |
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See what I mean ?
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Add a smiley and hope no-one notices you're talking nonsense. All the hallmarks of an idiot leaver.
Jesus, what happened to this country. We used to be clever, inquisitive, challenging those in power who seek to control us with their lies. Now, we have politicians utterly, provably lying to our faces and some people see it as honourable to close their eyes and swallow it down in one gulp. Shameful. Utterly shameful. I want to be proud to be British but I look around at some fellow Brits and can only feel embarrassment. Not good. |
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It’s all there pineapple in words
Read them , read them again , read them slowly And try to understand Anythings possible |
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Go on, surprise yourself .....
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Spoiler alert same old voices below repeating the same old words. Nobody moves nobody changes. ( oooops sorry apart from the occasional leaver lying and saying he voted remain the first time)
Prediction; what ever the result this nation will be going on like this for at least a generation. Just because Cameron used the worst sides of human nature fear hatred discrimination and revenge to win a general election. |
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These were the words of Farage - “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way.”
That is explicit language ... it does not say he would accept the result |
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As long as we leave , then of course no one knows the future
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Jesus, lfc really is the very worst of this country.
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George he doesn’t have to say , the result would have been implemented
Now when the result is implemented I won’t give two hoots what the remainers said We know now they were lying anyway |
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You see implement the referendum result
I don’t care what Farage said , I don’t care what Corbyn or May or boris said Or any other ****** |
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lfc getting shirty ...
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simple logic geord ie ,
I’m beginning to think remainers are not capable of rational , logical thought Well we see the evidence of that just here and now |
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Indeed lfc, this is the point.
You don't care about democracy. Or sovereignty, or being better off as you promised yourself or any of the other things you think justified your decision. You truly don't care. Because if you cared, you'd care just as much when each of those things was trampled on in the time since. You just want to win. That's all. You're desperate for it. And you don't care about anything else as long as you get that win. And that's why we will always mock you mercilessly. Because you are a cowardly idiot. And you may try to find new ways to contort yourself into thinking you're right but we'll always be there to remind you of what you really are. Have a good evening. |
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you come across as really thick lfc but at least we keey trying to educate you
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I suppose it’s something that can’t be taught
people in some countries are almost completely irrational that’s not a good thing |
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I'm astounded people are still debating about the legitimacy of the 2016 Referendum. Why? A vote was taken, and the 'Leavers' won. So, just enact the result. Anyone not agreeing with the result can always ask for another Referendum in the future but not until the 2016 one has been enacted eg 10/15/20 years' time.
And, please do not say the majority of the people have changed their mind since 2016 either. I'd not even entertain such a stupid assertion/statement let alone asking for definitive proof. However, 'Remainers' can canvass or ask for another Referendum after a specific time frame has elapsed. |
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Well we will be entitled to make it as difficult as possible for them of course
And we might not even allow them ....after their bad behaviour they don’t deserve it |