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differentdrum
17 Feb 19 22:44
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The Leadership's idea of unity is to appease those who want Brexit and stick two fingers to the remainers. More hollow words from McDonnell today. Just fueling the fire.

Chris Leslie was spot on when he when he said they were being played 'like fools'.

Now we get this ridiculous distraction that is being championed by all the lefties. They are the very people who will ensure a Tory government, not those wanting to quit the party.
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Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 10:34 AM GMT
What a collection of nobodies. The self-regard of these people is quite extraordinary.
Report PorcupineorPineapple February 18, 2019 10:37 AM GMT
Brexit has driven a wedge through politics. This is but the start.
Report thegiggilo February 18, 2019 10:37 AM GMT
Chuka Umunna makes me laugh,he had every opportunity to run for Party leader but was completely gutless,what weak willed self serving individuals...
Report TheBetterBettor February 18, 2019 10:37 AM GMT
better off joining the lib dems
Report anxious February 18, 2019 10:38 AM GMT
What a shower this lot are , goodbye and good riddance
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 10:42 AM GMT
Umunna did not care for the 'added scrutiny' the Leadership would have engendered. Hardly surprising really, given his lifestyle.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 10:55 AM GMT
They are joining the Fiona Onasanya party.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 10:56 AM GMT
The one that isn't fit to represent their constituents but still want paid.
Report salmon spray February 18, 2019 11:04 AM GMT
I'm not exactly a Corbynista but to be fair to Corbyn,MacDonnell and co they hung on in when the Labour Party was taken over by the neo-Thatcherite Blair. Now this lot can't be bothered to fight for change from within. Which incidentally is what I thought they wanted to do in the EU.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 11:11 AM GMT
I think Umunna would prefer it if other people fought for change, while he quaffs champagne.
Report anxious February 18, 2019 11:12 AM GMT
Exactly salmon a complete shower of self interested cowards
Report differentdrum February 18, 2019 11:31 AM GMT
Glad to see the seven have made a decision. Good luck to them it had become inevitable. No surprise if more were to follow.

Clueless lefties just abusing them, not realising they will be left with a pile of rubbish leading the party over a cliff.
Report salmon spray February 18, 2019 11:34 AM GMT
They're not a very impressive bunch compared even to Woy,Shirl,Dave and The Other One back in the day.
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 11:50 AM GMT
don't think ive ever heard so much shoite in 60 mins,
smith we,ll wait for the public to tell us what we should stand for
leslie JC IN Last 3 years shown he,s not fit to be PM, but I got elected on his manifesto and campaigned for him to be pm 18 MONTHS AGO.
MIKE GAPES remain party libdems part of the problem, labour since the 60,s,so how did he stay in when Blairites were running the party,
absolute loons the 7 of them,

none of them will resign to fight a by/election,cowards
Report PorcupineorPineapple February 18, 2019 11:51 AM GMT
Agree with DD. Labour is supposed to represent a broad church but it's increasingly narrowed its focus. They seem to spend more time fighting amongst themselves than opposing the awful government policies.


If it wasn't for May, Davis, Grayling, Fox, Hunt, Javid, Williamson etc etc then this would be the age of the worst Labour party of a hell of a long time. Corbyn's got away scot free because the other team are so bad.


Whole thing needs a re-boot.
Report anxious February 18, 2019 12:05 PM GMT
PP why then did Jeremy get the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 in 2017 , nearly 12 milion voted for them ?
Report yajyaj February 18, 2019 12:09 PM GMT
Umunna, "you join a party to change the world", NO YOU DONT, we elect you lot to sort our own country out ffs. Labour boys you're well shut of this ragtag gang, congratulations, hopefully a few of our lot will join them
Report yajyaj February 18, 2019 12:16 PM GMT
Ohh and their main qualification seems to be "I grew up in a council house", whilst the others look on with a sad face # big feckin deal
Report impossible123 February 18, 2019 12:18 PM GMT
Now, I'd like to see these former Labour MPs give up their seats and seek re-election as MPs again, and not draw their present MP salaries as that would be cheating their constituents.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 12:19 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 12:18PM, impossible123 wrote:


Now, I'd like to see these former Labour MPs give up their seats and seek re-election as MPs again, and not draw their present MP salaries as that would be cheating their constituents.


Hear Hear.

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 12:36 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 11:04AM, salmon spray wrote:


I'm not exactly a Corbynista but to be fair to Corbyn,MacDonnell and co they hung on in when the Labour Party was taken over by the neo-Thatcherite Blair. Now this lot can't be bothered to fight for change from within. Which incidentally is what I thought they wanted to do in the EU.


Excellent point

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 12:38 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 11:31AM, differentdrum wrote:


Glad to see the seven have made a decision. Good luck to them it had become inevitable. No surprise if more were to follow.Clueless lefties just abusing them, not realising they will be left with a pile of rubbish leading the party over a cliff.


Whatever WE are left with it won't be right wingers parading as something they are not.

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 12:41 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 12:18PM, impossible123 wrote:


Now, I'd like to see these former Labour MPs give up their seats and seek re-election as MPs again, and not draw their present MP salaries as that would be cheating their constituents.


Well  here's a first, I am in full agreement with you.

Report yajyaj February 18, 2019 12:47 PM GMT
And me Happy
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 12:48 PM GMT
You leftists remind me of the Interahamwe and the various warring factions of Islam - your greatest enemy are the moderates amongst you.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 12:52 PM GMT
Who are "you leftists" ? Seems everyone is in agreement that these ex labour mps are stealing a salary without giving their constituents an opportunity of a by election.
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 12:56 PM GMT
if they had by/election,presumably momentum would ride into town pushing their 2017 manifesto and honouring Brexit vote, these mp,s would have to trash the manifesto they thought was very good and trash the Brexit vote, but say they don't like corbyn
Report yajyaj February 18, 2019 1:09 PM GMT
McClusky agrees, they should put their support to the people
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
The only ones that don't agree are the not so magnificent seven.
Report PorcupineorPineapple February 18, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
Anx- because the Tories were complacent and Labour ran a good campaign.

Everything they've done before and since has been awful frankly. More concerned with having a go st Blair than May.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 1:18 PM GMT
Don't recall Frank Field standing for a by-election.
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 1:20 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 1:11PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Anx- because the Tories were complacent and Labour ran a good campaign. Everything they've done before and since has been awful frankly. More concerned with having a go st Blair than May.


I normally find myself in agreement with your posts but am wondering here what you mean by 'awful' ?

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 1:28 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 1:09PM, yajyaj wrote:


McClusky agrees, they should put their support to the people


It will be interesting what stance the media take on this as it probably doesn't serve the tories to have a by-election in these constituencies and likely get more Corbyn supporting Labour MP's in Parliament.
From what I've seen and read most people think it is wrong for them to remain as MP's without asking for a mandate to do so.

I noted Berger cowardly and wholly side-stepped the question when asked - yeah they represent a WHOLE NEW POLITICS for sure !

Report yajyaj February 18, 2019 1:35 PM GMT
Yes, not looking Tory advantages at all, just want the chance to rid the country of these "world saving" Labour imposters
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 1:43 PM GMT
It is actually scandalous that they will not seek a new mandate, but Umunna probably believes the people of Streatham voted for him because he's him and not because he was wearing a red rosette.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 1:45 PM GMT
Streatham 84% remain, jed.
Corbyn facilitating Govt Brexit was bound to have consequences sooner or later.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 1:48 PM GMT
That may or may not be so, but Umunna stood on exactly that manifesto in 2017.
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 1:51 PM GMT
If brexit splits the country then does one party lose more votes due to it than the other ?

pp- your the man for the stats; what would this change ?

Seems to me both are saying we are leaving but in slightly different ways. Doesn't that pretty much keep the status quo in terms of floating voters concerned by purely brexit ?
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 1:52 PM GMT
And he voted to trigger Article 50, perhaps he did not know what he was voting for?
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 2:06 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 1:51PM, enpassant wrote:


If brexit splits the country then does one party lose more votes due to it than the other ?pp- your the man for the stats; what would this change ?Seems to me both are saying we are leaving but in slightly different ways. Doesn't that pretty much keep the status quo in terms of floating voters concerned by purely brexit ?


I don't think it will have any impact at all if the next general election is in 2022 as scheduled.

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 2:08 PM GMT
" It is unclear precisely how much of this a new centrist party, committed to the existing orthodoxy, hopes to gain. They might insist in calling themselves mainstream, but the fact not one member of the new group will hold a by-election has a simple explanation: they would all lose very, very badly."
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 2:14 PM GMT
pp- What about by-elections in split 7 constituency happening soon any thoughts on what impact brexit would have on them ? UB seems to suggest there would be.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 2:23 PM GMT
If there were by elections in all of the constituencies apart from Angela Smith's Penistone and Stocksbroidge one would be stonewall Labour wins. Penistone is too close to call.
Report PorcupineorPineapple February 18, 2019 2:26 PM GMT
I normally find myself in agreement with your posts but am wondering here what you mean by 'awful' ?


enpassant, in general I just think Corbyn's leadership has been very weak. He's surrounded himself with very like-minded people, generally follows everything Milne proposes and instead of accepting that Labour covers a lot of bases and viewpoints has increased divisions in the party that has led to today and what's to come.

I think their handling of the anti-semitism row couldn't have gone much worse to be honest. Next to no discipline against perps and they've had ample opportunity to put it to bed. Now, with Berger on the outside it's bound to be even more of an issue.

Then you have brexit. The party members want one thing but Corbyn (Milne) wants another. So you get the current attempts at hoodwinking. Yeah, we'll go for a second ref but only if we've exhausted these other inexhaustible things first. It's just callous and treats Labour members and voters as idiots. Whether he simply wants out and then a GE so he can build his Socialist Paradise or he's simply happy to let the country go right to the cliff edge as long as he pushes to get an election. Result is that there are hundreds of thousands (at least) people that feel very unrepresented right now. Lib Dems are a joke, the Tories are swinging very hard to the right and Labour are happy to see us crash as long as they get to pick up the pieces.

Not sure what to make of these yet but if they're little more than an irritant shining some light on what's going on then maybe that's a good thing.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 2:26 PM GMT
Brexit is now the dividing line in politics.

But why would these MPs choose to resign their seats? I'm confused.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 2:31 PM GMT
You are clearly confused - they haven't resigned their seats, they have merely disavowed the Labour Party.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 2:41 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 2:26PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Brexit is now the dividing line in politics.But why would these MPs choose to resign their seats? I'm confused.


Brexit is no such thing.

Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 2:42 PM GMT
Yes, that's what I thought, jed. So why would there be a by-election?
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 2:55 PM GMT
Because they were elected as Labour MPs, and they are no longer Labour MPs.

Umunna has been consistent in his assertion that the facts have changed since the Referendum and that it should now be re-run with a better-informed electorate. The same does not apply to the people of Streatham it would appear.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 2:59 PM GMT
I don't think it works like that, jed.

At present, when an MP switches parties during a Parliament, a by-election is only called if the MP himself chooses to resign his seat.

You're welcome.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:00 PM GMT
I'm aware of that, but you'd think a man trying to create a new brand of Politics would recognise the dichotomy and act accordingly.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:01 PM GMT
The fact that the rules allow him to behave so improperly is neither here nor there.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 3:03 PM GMT
Hopefully all seven to stay put to be act as exemplars in Parliament and influence colleagues.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 3:04 PM GMT
Sorry - I'd try again in English, but you get my drift.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:05 PM GMT
One wonders exactly what kind of exemplar you expect, given their dishonourable behaviour today.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 3:10 PM GMT
It's all part of something that is happening anyway, which is politics reshaping on either side of the Brexit divide. We already have the ERG bloc, the "firm within a firm" inside the Tory Party, acting autonomously.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:12 PM GMT
As contraire, the ERG represent perfectly the vast majority of Tory voters as their treacherous Remain colleagues will find out very shortly.
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:12 PM GMT
I'd try again in French but you get my drift.
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 3:13 PM GMT
thinks smith might be resigning by tea time she,s having an absolute nightmare ridiculous statement after ridiculous statement ,car crash after car crash interview,all over social media after describing non whites of been a funny tinge colour Cry
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 3:14 PM GMT
And Remainers represent the vast majority of Labour voters. The thing the sets these seven apart from the ERG is integrity, they won't hide behind the corpse of their leader.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 3:15 PM GMT
racist!
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:16 PM GMT
And Remainers represent the vast majority of Labour voters.

That is utter rubbish
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 3:18 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 3:16PM, jed.davison wrote:


And Remainers represent the vast majority of Labour voters.That is utter rubbish


agreed. There are folks that voted remain in all parties in all parts of the UK.

Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:18 PM GMT
If that were the case, you'd have to explain how Labour got 12 million votes in 2017, campaigning on a Respect the Referendum result platform.
Report unitedbiscuits February 18, 2019 3:27 PM GMT
65% Labour voters did vote remain but that was a long time ago>> more recently, 1st Jan 2019
Labour members are significantly more opposed to Brexit than Jeremy Corbyn is, with 72% of them thinking their leader should fully support a second referendum, according to a study of attitudes in the party. ..
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:31 PM GMT
I think a lot of those people are Labour voters, but have about as much in common with Corbyn as I do.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 3:33 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 3:27PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


65% Labour voters did vote remain but that was a long time ago>> more recently, 1st Jan 2019Labour members are significantly more opposed to Brexit than Jeremy Corbyn is, with 72% of them thinking their leader should fully support a second referendum, according to a study of attitudes in the party. ..


So does that mean they are all going to vote tory? Or are they going to continue voting Labour?

Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:34 PM GMT
They will surely vote for the Chukka party?
Report jed.davison February 18, 2019 3:34 PM GMT
Or the Liberals, where most of them actually belong.
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 3:35 PM GMT
Or even the Chuckedit party.
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 3:39 PM GMT
gape one of the loons called the libdems part of the problem, Laugh,
gape came last in bridge building classes at school LaughLaughLaugh
Report thegiggilo February 18, 2019 3:59 PM GMT
This could be the shortest party in history,what a sh1t show that Angela smith is,wants less regulation on fracking as well in national parks seems a right loon,i suppose a few torys said they were going to join up with chuka and he fell for it what a mug..Shocked
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 4:20 PM GMT
angela smith apologises for her racist comment ,maybe berger and the other 6 will split from her, Laugh,
someone who cant stay in an anti semic party makes a racist comment live on tv an hour later , CryCry
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 4:21 PM GMT
Angelas ashes might be scattered soon.
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 4:23 PM GMT
been an on going car crash for 6 hrs making chris grayling look competent, absolute buffoon ,needs sectioning never mind electing
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 4:29 PM GMT
lord levey on sky wants the labour party back by that he means blairs labour party ,he might the country doesn't,thery may or may not want Corbyn but they don't want the likes of chukka and co,if chukka,s a left of centre tory like his new best bud souboury,if he stood in lonmdon as a left centre tory he wouldn't get elected,he,s a cooooont in a suit
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:07 PM GMT
Pp He doesn't have a great deal of choice given how the PLP see him so it's a little harsh to say HE has surrounded himself.
The divisions have come about because Labour has taken their place soundly on the left. Each party are small coaloitions but these 7 and the rest that have not yet jumped ship failed to stay the course whereas Corbyn stayed and fought for decades through the Blair years.
Margret Beckett (no less) has given Corbyn fulsome praise for how he has grown into his role as leader.
The stats on the anti-semitism row clearly indicate the problem is in no way more rife in the Labour party than any other or the population for that matter. The issue has been highlighted constantly by the tory party and their media friends in a disproportionate way.
I have no qualms whatsoever about how Corbyn or anyone sees brexit- it is very clearly a person by person decision. He has been publicly urged to do things that would be politically niave and he has steadfastly refused to buckle.
Corbyn, I suspect he wants a form of brexit that as he states does not cost jobs and the economy- seems sensible to me (I consider myself a remainer with reservations about the EU).

As for the 7 ; I think they will be cast aside by the electorate at the first opportunity (though pp says one may be in the balance and I think his opinion on these things is worth taking heed of)I also believe they are motivated by self interest and Chuka with his ever changing position on fundamental issue is a prime example of a disingenuous  politician - well shot of the lot of them and I hope there are more to follow.
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:08 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 2:26PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Brexit is now the dividing line in politics.But why would these MPs choose to resign their seats? I'm confused.


I do not agree at all. Left and right are the dividing lines more now than for a very long time.

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:10 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 3:14PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


And Remainers represent the vast majority of Labour voters. The thing the sets these seven apart from the ERG is integrity, they won't hide behind the corpse of their leader.


'integrity' oh my lord ! Are you serious ?

Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:16 PM GMT
Smith : The accuser has now become the accused - how long was I gone ffs ?
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:24 PM GMT
"Even with magnetic personalities at the forefront and a well-funded, meticulous operation behind, a new centrist party would struggle to retain a single MP after the next general election. While the splits of 1931 and 1981 destroyed Labour as a party of government for a generation, this time looks different. Importantly, it seems almost every Labour MP recognises as much.

What we are seeing isn’t the launch of a new politics, it’s the old one sailing off in a lifeboat. Floating towards an empty horizon, the Independent Group has no idea where it is going or what forces are pushing it."
Report treetop February 18, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
The cuckoos have taken over the Labour nest now and are pushing out the genuine MP's seeking to improve the lot of the poor instead of those advocating nowt but class warfare.
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:32 PM GMT
'genuine' haha good one
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2019 5:47 PM GMT
chukka the groups token funny tinge man Laugh
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 5:53 PM GMT
Chuka :

"Some have suggested that there is institutional antisemitism across the whole of the Labour Party - this is not a view I share, not least because I have not seen one incident of antisemitism in 20 years of activism within the Labour Party"

Chuka Umunna October 2016

This from the anti EU now pro EU flip flopper. 'genuine' hahahaha 'integrity' wtf hahahaha
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 6:10 PM GMT
He must be "tinged" with sadness he said that , eh Angela?
Report enpassant February 18, 2019 6:13 PM GMT
I think Chuka is carved from the same stone as '2 letter Johnson' - no values, no integrity no loyalty other than to themselves
Report politicspunter February 18, 2019 10:17 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/326Pols?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalbetting.vanillacommunity.com%2Fdiscussion%2F7348%2Fpoliticalbetting-com-blog-archive-this-could-be-right-corbyn-blocking-moves-for-a-second-refer

Well, I did say up thread Penistone would be too close to call.
Report thegiggilo February 19, 2019 12:23 AM GMT
If corbyn doesn't do something on all the issues raised he's waking into oblivion and very soon,could he really be that stuoid not to address the issues and quickly must be odds on he won't...
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 12:27 AM GMT
Excellent stuff there pp.
It looks like it would depend on how many Labour voters are loyal to Smith for her constituency work. Her performance today would have alarmed many I'm sure but with the numbers so close last time between Lab & Tory it would seem on the face of it a by-election there would be a 'must win' for the tories. A failure to take this seat under the current circumstances would be a dangerous sign for the government.
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 1:18 AM GMT
"The irony of this whole situation is, despite the MPs leaving Labour, this new party could peel away enough Tory voters to enable Labour supporters to hold their noses and vote tactically to keep the Tories out. (10 of the 15 projected gains come from Conservative seats.)"
Report thegiggilo February 19, 2019 1:29 AM GMT
Tory voters won't vote for that party,just like no tory mps will join it they are probably laughing at chuka only one person can save corbyn and the labour party and it's himself..He has to come down on these issues brought up today,not drag them ouyt and hope for the best especially the antesemitism thing needs to expel however many it takes and immediately,last chance saloon noyt only that either the promise on peoples vote has to be kept if no deal.If he doesn't then he's deluded and totally out of touch
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 9:28 AM GMT
The stats just do not stand up to scrutiny. What precisely do you say Corbyn needs to do ?
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 9:35 AM GMT
All cases have or are being dealt with through due process in terms of antisemitism the report on all the figures is now available and the numbers are in keeping with society as a rule.
I also do not see why Corbyn should allow the government off the hook by doing thing his political enemies want him to do.
Backing a PV would be as meaningless as the demanded No Confidence Vote but his enemies are yet again baying at him to move. I am delighted he has shown the strength and to stand firm on his position despite all the media attention disproportionately focused on him and not enough on the people in power.
Just like the 7 yesterday that had nothing to say on austerity et al but plenty to say about the Labour Party. Good riddance and more to follow would be just dandy.
Report yajyaj February 19, 2019 11:23 AM GMT
Enp, what is this please...(10 of the 15 projected gains come from Conservative seats.) ?, btw good to see Derek Hatton back homeHappy
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 11:28 AM GMT
It is a quote coming from the pp link above. Interesting stuff- here it is for ease of ref:

https://twitter.com/326Pols?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalbetting.vanillacommunity.com%2Fdiscussion%2F7348%2Fpoliticalbetting-com-blog-archive-this-could-be-right-corbyn-blocking-moves-for-a-second-refer
Report yajyaj February 19, 2019 11:30 AM GMT
ohh cheers, I thought it might be there but it was a lot of info and I give up, will look again
Report yajyaj February 19, 2019 11:38 AM GMT
Yeah easy, I went to the left of the screen and found pages of constituency forecasts. Lib and Tig 27 seats Scared, god help us
Report enpassant February 19, 2019 11:38 AM GMT
326 Politics
‏ @326Pols
11h11 hours ago

The irony of this whole situation is, despite the MPs leaving Labour, this new party could peel away enough Tory voters to enable Labour supporters to hold their noses and vote tactically to keep the Tories out. (10 of the 15 projected gains come from Conservative seats.)
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Report 1st time poster February 19, 2019 12:05 PM GMT
forgetting the labour party,why arnt the police arresting people for anti Semitism on line,you can kick them out of the labour party but that doesn't stop the tweets,posts on social media, I suspect most are peoples opinions right or wrong but not illegal, I believe someones in jail for some of the berger online attacks
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