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Norma Stitz
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Report Eeternaloptimist June 28, 2010 11:36 PM BST
Laugh
Report noddys ryde June 29, 2010 8:28 AM BST
Cant we multi task the fire,ambulance and police services? So many emergencies need all three services anyway. When firefighters get to old to climb ladders they become ambulancemen rather than taking a pension at 50 or whatever..
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 8:33 AM BST
Laugh...Tut tut Crippen, and you being a Doctor should know a bit of manual labour is good for you. Get yourself a bucket and sponge and get down to your nearest traffic lights, but be quick there will soon be a rush and those that are multi skilled have the best chance of survival.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 8:36 AM BST
Noddy, in many European countries Firefighters are also Paramedics, you may see that here one day soon i suspect. Dont see how you could incorporate the Police into that though.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 8:52 AM BST
Also Noddy there is now a new Firefighters pension scheme, started a few years ago i think.A Firefighter will have to work 40 years to obtain a full pension, so they wont be retiring at 50 as you say.
Report noddys ryde June 29, 2010 9:40 AM BST
Aceme-so what do they do at 50 when they are too old to climb ladders? Beocome bureaucrats or get a nice early ill health retirement from rescuing a kitten from up a tree?
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 9:46 AM BST
Noddy

Ill health retirement is a thing of the past, Stephen Hawking wouldnt even get it nowadays.Plenty of Fireys around well into their 50s still climbing ladders. If you look after yourself its no barrier.

Footnote: Kittens are vicious little buggers.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 9:49 AM BST
There were about eight firemen at my local baths a few weeks ago, they’d roped off a lane in the pool and were standing there waiting their turn to put on a special suit that had a rope tied to it, they had to rescue another who had jumped in the deep end.

They each in turn set out from the shallow end wearing this suit and after they had got to the deep end they grabbed the one in the water, and were then pulled back to the shallow end using the rope.

I thought ‘’what a performance,’’ their only concern seemed to be for their own safety. In a real situation the poor sod in the water would have drowned before the firemen had even got their tackle out of the fire engine let alone got the suit on.

It reminded me of  a case on the news where that procedure would have been appropriate, a person was trapped in a car in a river, but the firemen said it was too dangerous for them to attempt a rescue, and the unfortunate one in the water was swept away– nuff said.
Report noddys ryde June 29, 2010 10:05 AM BST
As a student I had a summer job in a paint factory.
Each Friday afternoon 6 staff who were trained as "firemen" had special fire drills and training -they were paid extra for this and it was better than working.
One day there was a real fire.
The first people running for the exit were the "firemen".
Only they realised how dangerous the whole place was!
Not full time State employed firemen of course.....just private sector.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 10:14 AM BST
Crippen im worried about you. If you had brains you would be dangerous.

In the Crippen fire brigade they are called to an emergency where a member of the public is drowning in rapid moving water, Crippen immediately orders the first firefighter to jump in and save our poor blighter. Opps now the firfighter is being swept away so Crippen orders two more to jump in and save the Firefighter and the person. Oh No! Now we have four people in the water, Crippen sends his last 4 boys in to retrieve the other 4, opps! all 8 of them have now drowned. Crippen skulks off to become an MP.

A typical keyboard warrior that hasnt a clue what he is talking about armed with stories from the Daily Star or The Sun. You really have swallowed the spin hook line and sinker.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 10:22 AM BST
Crippen

That story you allude to, evidence please. I can recall two recent incidents. The first involved the Police and the second was where a Firefighter was disciplined for jumping in the water and saving someone but not having carried out the procedures that would have caused delay and may have resulted in the prson drowning.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 10:24 AM BST
Yes noddy, in other words they were taught how to raise the alarm and operate a fire extinquisher.Hardly Firemen.
Report noddys ryde June 29, 2010 11:30 AM BST
Aceme-if you multi tasked as paramedics you could both rescue and give mouth to mouth on the river bank. Saves a valuable ambulance.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 11:33 AM BST
Aceme - typical work to the letter jobsworth.

In the Aceme fire brigade the fire crew arrive on the scene, take the temperature of the water and decide it’s too cold to go in at the moment – and then wait for someone higher in authority to arrive to make the decision.
Then when he arrives it’s too late to do anything anyway.

Phew sighs Aceme, that was a close one, we nearly had to do something for our money there.

You carry on playing your little training games in the safety of the local swimming baths, you have to look after yourselves if you want to pick up that pension.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 11:37 AM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04
Replies: 89 29 Jun 10 10:22   

Crippen

That story you allude to, evidence please


It was in the news on the telly a few months ago, with pictures of the car in the river.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 11:55 AM BST
Noddy. That is already the case, mouth to mouth is basic fist aid. Fireys also carry defibrillators for dealing with heart attacks. However in an example as you quote an ambulance would be automatically mobilised when the emergency call was made.As i said in some parts of Europe Fireys are also paramedics, i know this is the case in Dublin. That is a whole different ball game performing tracheotomy`s etc. It will probably come to the UK eventually.

Crippen Its called risk management, carried out across the world in all emergency services and armed forces. Your making yourself look stupid, and your story is bullshit, would be easily found on the net if true.

Here`s mine, memory deserted me a bit, it was in fact a dog.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250974/Fireman-breached-health-safety-rules-saving-dog-frozen-lake.html
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 12:21 PM BST
Crippen im waiting with bated breath for you to provide the evidence to prove your story. You can`t, because it not true, you made it up, just as you have been skewing facts to fit your agenda. You haven`t a clue what you have been talking about on this thread, a bit like Monkey Boy. Your lot probably isnt that good at the moment but get over it. Get off your arse and do something useful instead of blaming others for your own failures, you life is in your own hands, do something with it, being bitter on here wont help..
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 12:23 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04
Replies: 90 29 Jun 10 11:55   

and your story is bullshit, would be easily found on the net if true.

No Aceme it is you who is bullshit, I did a search with the title ‘car in river death’ and got 67,400,000 results. Check the lot did you?

What did you use in the search title?
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 12:26 PM BST
By the way Aceme,
Aren’t you at work today, what do you just pop in when you feel like it?

I bet there’s a sign outside your fire station that reads ‘’ Fires put out by appointment, subject to staff training.’’

Aceme trains while London burns.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 12:42 PM BST
Crippen

Your story is total lies. Why dont you search with the word "firefighter" Do you know how to do proper searches??? You made that story up, simple as that.Its an open thread, believe me if you were right someone here would have found it by now.

I used "firefighter" doesnt enter water to save person trapped in car (limited to UK only) 6,500 results

My story had 17,700 results, i found it easily, you are a bull****.

Not at work today, had a nice run this morning and will be watching the World Cup.
Report blackburn1 June 29, 2010 12:45 PM BST
aceme, crippen is a moron, but his post of 12.26 is very funny.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 12:48 PM BST
Eight of the buggers standing round the pool like a bunch of dopes, I expected them to p1ss on me as I swam past.
They might as well have, they p!ss on all the other taxpayers.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 12:51 PM BST
blackburn

His post at 22.10 last night was funnier. The 12.26 one raised a smirk from me.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 12:53 PM BST
No I didn’t make the story up, it is there somewhere, but to be fair to Aceme it was a raging torrent.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 1:02 PM BST
Im enjoying the debate on here and I understand many still think a Fireys job is rescuing cats. I welcome the opportunity to blow a few myths away. But blatent lies and skewing of facts to fit an agenda is not really on, thats what politicians are for.

As tax payers we are all entitled to a say on our public sector services, if I had my way I would double the pay of Nurses and the Armed forces and half the pay of MP`s but that isn’t going to happen. There are plenty of cuts that can be made across the public sector and im sure the Fire Service will be hit very hard, it already has been in recent years. Cameron will be writing to us to help identify savings, I only hope he takes notice of the replies he receives. In the end we all get the service we pay for, unfortunately public apathy reigns “it wont happen to me” is the norm, until it does, and when help is no longer around the corner because the Fire Station is closed or you are left lying in a hospital corridor it will remain so for most people.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 2:15 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04
Replies: 94 29 Jun 10 13:02   

But blatent lies and skewing of facts to fit an agenda is not really on, thats what politicians are for. 

What blatent lies and skewing of facts?
Report Dotchinite June 29, 2010 2:20 PM BST
"As tax payers we are all entitled to a say on our public sector services, if I had my way I would double the pay of Nurses and the Armed forces and half the pay of MP`"
And where would you get the billions needed to do that i wonder?
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 2:28 PM BST
And where would you get the billions needed to do that i wonder?

Exactly Dotchinite.
That's typical of the public service people, they must think that money comes out of a tap.
Report noddys ryde June 29, 2010 2:32 PM BST
aceme-lets get this right -you are not a taxpayer. You are in receipt of our tax.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 2:35 PM BST
To quote some of the comments made here.


H&S say they cant climb ladders. Lies

H&S has made the job easier. How?? Lies

Firefighters work an average 150 days a year. Lies

A requirement of lifting 50kg above your head for entrance. Trying to trivialise what is a very hard entry criteria.

Fire deaths are still pretty low. Roughly 1 in 40,000 building fires.Proof please, i dont know what it is.

It reminded me of  a case on the news where that procedure would have been appropriate, a person was trapped in a car in a river, but the firemen said it was too dangerous for them to attempt a rescue, and the unfortunate one in the water was swept away. Cough, cough, its another lie.


Dotchinite

I was speaking hypothetically, of course thats not possible, but in an ideal world i would love to be able to do it.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 2:43 PM BST
noddy, i am a tax payer in a number of ways just like you.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 2:44 PM BST
Crippen and Co

Thanks for allowing me to expand and highlight some of the things the Fire Service do for the public, alongside the trivial and mundane tasks you and others are so keen to quote.The more i think about it the more i think we deserve a pay rise and a reduction in pension contributions.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 2:48 PM BST
Where does it say you have to lift 50 Kg above your head here?

http://www.fireservice.co.uk/recruitment/physicaltests.php

Although if you can't lift that you are in pretty poor shape anyway
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 2:52 PM BST
Exactly, its not an entry criteria as far as i know. Monkey Boy used it as his example to trivialise the entrace criteria.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 2:54 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04Replies: 95 29 Jun 10 14:35   

its another lie.

No you are the liar here. Just because I’m not prepared to spend any more time searching for it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and I made it up.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 2:59 PM BST
I expected the physical test to be more demanding, I think most people under fifty-five who are not too fat would be capable of handling that.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 2:59 PM BST
You would never make a Firefighter Crippen, you give up to easily, no spirit or determination. Doomed to a life on the Betfair forum bigging it up for you im afraid.

Right fottie time, feet up to watch the match on my taxpayer paid for TV. Happy days.
Report Dr Crippen June 29, 2010 3:00 PM BST
And plenty over fifty-five as well if they have looked after themselves.
Report Eeternaloptimist June 29, 2010 3:29 PM BST
To be fair there are plenty of fire fighters who are frustrated by the creeping H@S which threatens to take away autonomy in a given situation. I think there is an ongoing invesitgation into the lady who died at the bottom of a pit which is a prime example. I think the problem here is that sometimes the bosses are more interested in covering their own arses than helping their crews and the general public. So for example, they will have us put extra kit on our appliances to comply with our extended statutory role as a fire and rescue service but they will give us instuctions that we aren't allowed to use it until we have been instructed how to use it competently. Then they drag their feet getting that organised and we look like mugs when we have equipment which we are fully capable of using but our hands are tied.

By the way nurses, like Doctors, are now overpaid.
Report Eeternaloptimist June 29, 2010 3:33 PM BST
Another problem is the changing attitude of people to seeking compensation. A few years ago fire crews would bust a gut to have a go, often going outside what was their designated remit. Now our official designated remit is massively increased and woe betide us if we get it wrong. That creates doubt, fear and confusion which wasn't previously there and a far more defensive attitude to doing the job.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 3:49 PM BST
Crippen

To be honest i never knew what the physical criteria was, i know it has been dumbed down dramatically in recent years, this is to allow female candidates to pass, very very few would be able to do it in the past and the Fire Service has been set targets.Also there is no longer any age barriers, a recent recruit i saw was 54 years old.
Report cheese June 29, 2010 6:08 PM BST
As far I can see they all sit around all day watching porn and doing f*** all. Any idiot can work a hose and wear a stupid hat. Get on your bike I say.
Report Aceme June 29, 2010 6:14 PM BST
Cheers Cheese, that reminds me im getting a brand new bike next week on the brigades bike scheme. I should send you a pic as you helped pay for it. After all you want your Firefighters to be fit Happy
Report treetop June 30, 2010 3:05 PM BST
You have a cruel sense of humour aceme ! Stop taunting poor old cheese.
Report Aceme June 30, 2010 3:18 PM BST
Happy
Report Dr Crippen June 30, 2010 3:26 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04
Replies: 110 29 Jun 10 14:59   

You would never make a Firefighter Crippen,

Why on earth would I want to?
Like I said before, I leave that sort of work to people who can’t do anything else.
Report Norma Stitz July 1, 2010 6:46 PM BST
A Fireman's job is a feckin sinecure. If they don't like their pay and conditions. Walk. They would not be missed. There would be hundreds of applicants for every job.

Why should I pay for a Fireman's pension?
Report Aceme July 1, 2010 8:38 PM BST
A sinecure LaughThis thread is stressing me out, no one likes us Fireys anymoreSadAnd on top of that my share portfolio took a battering this week.Still my sb made a few grand. Think i will take a sickie and head to my place in the Med for a little relaxation.... after my new bike has been delivered.Happy days.Happy
Report Eeternaloptimist July 1, 2010 9:10 PM BST
Laugh
Report Norma Stitz July 1, 2010 9:15 PM BST
C'mon Aceme. Admit your job's a piece of p!ss. You lot lost it last time you went on strike.

You expected approval and you got sl@gged.
Report Aceme July 1, 2010 10:06 PM BST
Depends on someone`s definition of a piece of piss i guess. Easy to sit behind a keyboard and say that about any job.Most have the rough and the smooth, the easy and the hard, but not many risk life.

Fire Service and the pensions will get a battering im sure, but so be it, could be worse, im happy with my lot.If they fook the pensions too much i might take the cash and invest it myself in a SIPP, i have made plans if the worst comes.

Strike was a disaster.
Report Norma Stitz July 1, 2010 10:20 PM BST
Not many risk life? Iraq and Afghanistan 300+ dead. Yeah, you concentrate on your feckin SIPP.
Report Aceme July 1, 2010 10:28 PM BST
All the same the life risk is there, over 300+ on 9/11 I make no comparison between the Fire Service and the Armed Forces, why do you? More have died in the Armed Forces than any other job in the last few years so your arguement could apply to any job in the country.What a crass remark to try to prove a point.
Report Norma Stitz July 1, 2010 10:31 PM BST
Who did your job when you went on strike. Anybody die because you refused to let them use your modern equipment?
Report Aceme July 1, 2010 10:38 PM BST
Blimey, get over it ffs, that was 7 years ago, do Firefighters make political decisions?

If you think its so easy why aren`t you doing it???
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 6:55 PM BST
No vacancies.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 6:56 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 29 Jun 10 12:42 

"Not at work today, had a nice run this morning and will be watching the World Cup."

Go check some hyrants you supercilious, parasitic t w a t.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 7:09 PM BST
That was a **** day at work, got a shout and missed 20mins of the Brazil v Holland game, ffs.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 7:11 PM BST
Tut ,tut Norma, welfare payments getting slashed Laugh
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 7:14 PM BST
Never joined that club and will never need to.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 7:28 PM BST
Well stop complaining about SKY putting up SKY Sports £3 you tight git. Bet your a right bundle of laughs at a party.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 7:31 PM BST
It was irony. You dumb feck.
Report crediter July 2, 2010 7:32 PM BST
aceme...you might just as well talk to a hydrant....more sense imo.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 8:21 PM BST
Bigger drip than a hydrant imo
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 8:31 PM BST
Jeeezz, FFS, please save me from parasitic, public sector @rseholes and their SIPPS.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 8:38 PM BST
Please god if you can hear me.... Can you make sure i get no shouts tomorrow as i am playing in the semi final of the station darts competition and then i want to watch the football on our new 50" HDTV. Oh! One last thing, we are going out on the lash after work, could you arrange for me to bump into a shapely blonde with no brains.


Oh! One last thing, could you arrange for Norma not to pay increased SKY contributions, i have seen on tv what 50p can do,it can light up a childs face,imagine what £3 could do to a miserable git like Norma, it would mean a lot....Thank you god, regards Aceme.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 8:48 PM BST
Did anybody die in fire related deaths the last time you parasitic jobsworths were on strike?
Report Dr Crippen July 2, 2010 9:51 PM BST
Crikey Aceme you live it up, darts matches, football on the telly then out on the p1ss  looking for a woman.
How old are you eighteen, or twenty perhaps?
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 10:54 PM BST
Crippen, noooooooooooo dont want to be 18. Would have to work two extra years for same pension that you would get from 20. You and Norma should get together, what a party that would be,Ebola virus sounds more fun. Grin

Norma

No one died in a fire during the dispute.  Fireys still answered calls in which there was a life risk. Fireys never denied the Army access to equipment. In fact what happened was the govt tried to stop Fireys using engines. there were a few instances of Fireys trying to disable engines after this decision but this was not policy, it was a few isolated instances by mavricks. Why did the govt stop us anwering life risk calls using modern equipment and engines??
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 10:59 PM BST
Aceme, you sound like Tony Bliar.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 11:00 PM BST
Really Sad
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 11:02 PM BST
Wish, wash, blish bosh, nobody died, bollox, tollux.
Report Eeternaloptimist July 2, 2010 11:05 PM BST
At least the Scots are getting a rest while Norma is bashing himself off over his copy of the Fireman's calender.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 11:13 PM BST
Jeezz, yet another @rsehole with feck all to say.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 11:13 PM BST
Strike was a total farce, i mean who goes on strike and still works as normal? which is what we did in essence. Therefore no one dying, which of course we didnt want. We wanted public support, so what could we do? No one dying didnt suit the govt, thay wanted news of injured soldiers and members of the public. That about sums it up.

I can assure you we didnt deny the army. In fact all engines and equipment are leased from a private company. They would not allow them vehicles or equipment to be used by the army because of insurance.As far as we were concened they could take them away, they never did, but told us it would be considered theft if we moved them, hence dismissal. So the public see fire engines sitting  in stations thinking we are denying the army. Typical Sun readers fall for it hook line and sinker...bad, bad Firemen!

Is Norma a Scot? Fookin hell im almost feeling sorry for him now.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 11:17 PM BST
Sort out your terms and conditions without going on strike.

Millions in the private sector can do it.

What's so feckin special about you?
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 11:25 PM BST
Imo, and a lot of others, it was orchestrated by Gilchrist and Prescott. Bods like me dont have much say. Dont know what other firefighters here think.It was 7 years ago, so not really of any relevance now.

Anyway i got to go to bed now, big darts match tomorrow at work, i know i count on yours and Crippens support to become the station champion.
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 11:33 PM BST
Feck the darts, concentrate on your SIPPS. You might think you are the dogs' hangers.

Others may think that you are parasitic s c u m b a g s.

Have a nice doss.
Report Aceme July 2, 2010 11:37 PM BST
Will do, feeling nervous now, station champ is a big honour. I only got to the quater final in the snooker so need this bad. If i get knocked out that just leaves the table tennis next week, not really my speciality. Pity the x box doesnt count. Happy days.Happy
Report Norma Stitz July 2, 2010 11:41 PM BST
FFS, how many times are you going to go to bed?

Just feckin do it. No need to ask for permission.

FFS, you public sector robots.
Report SuperLeigh July 2, 2010 11:59 PM BST
Fascist Tories want to create mass unemployment in the hope of generating tax cuts for the rich. Most firemen do a good job and some lose their lives at work. we do need to utilise any downtime e.g. on fire prevention, fitting smoke alarms, educating the community etc
Report SuperLeigh July 2, 2010 11:59 PM BST
Fascist Tories want to create mass unemployment in the hope of generating tax cuts for the rich. Most firemen do a good job and some lose their lives at work. we do need to utilise any downtime e.g. on fire prevention, fitting smoke alarms, educating the community etc
Report Norma Stitz July 3, 2010 12:10 AM BST
If Paradise is half as nice as heaven that you take me to
Who needs paradise, I'd rather have you
Report Norma Stitz July 3, 2010 12:10 AM BST
If Paradise is half as nice as heaven that you take me to
Who needs paradise, I'd rather have you
Report Eeternaloptimist July 3, 2010 8:26 AM BST
Feck me. Singing now. Is there no beginning to this cnunts talents. Oops? I forgot he is the reigning Mr Dribbly Bell End. Go on Norma regales us with another tale about the sweatties.
Report Norma Stitz July 3, 2010 5:58 PM BST
Broon, the Bottler, saved the World.
Report Aceme July 7, 2010 9:51 AM BST
Lovely day, heading for the fire station on my new bike now to use the gym. Saves a fortune that does, not needing to be a member of a gym. Want to live longer so i can keep drawing that pension when it comes.Happy days. Happy

Norma & Crippen

Do your benefits get posted to you or do you have to collect them?
Report treetop July 7, 2010 10:08 AM BST
Aceme,stop that ! Taunting the average member of the public is against the firemen's code of ethics. To be honest Norma could hardly be called average,though.
Report Dr Crippen July 7, 2010 11:40 AM BST
Great stuff from Aceme, I’m glad he’s enjoying his life in reasonable poverty.
It's good job the best things in life are free, because if they weren't Aceme couldn't afford them on fireman's pay.
Report Aceme July 7, 2010 12:10 PM BST
Keep thinking that Crippen if it makes you feel better.

Aceme is a shrewd mother fikker, you see when times were good he got together with a mate and bought a second property which they sold a year later for nearly double the price, then bought two houses and refurbished them, one of which sold for the highest price ever achieved in that street. Then they bought a plot of land in London and built their own flats which they sold to a housing association just before the bust. In between bought a property in the med which the local government help pay to restore. Then invested 10k in a company called GKP at 10p, shares rocketed to 130p, luvvly jubbly (see the thread on financials when I was posting on it) Just got myself a fully loaded Audi A5 S-Line in white, it’s a beauty. Two properties with no mortgage, nice pension and a new bike. Life couldn’t get better.HappyHappy

What were you doing when times were good? sitting on your arse posting here waiting for your giro to hit the mat?
Report Dr Crippen July 7, 2010 3:47 PM BST
Aceme Joined: 05 Sep 04
Replies: 162 07 Jul 10 12:10   

Aceme is a shrewd mother fikker,

Oh yeah I can see that lol, you don't get to be a fireman for nothing.
Report noddys ryde July 7, 2010 4:05 PM BST
So firemen all do have second jobs.....just as I always suspected-sleep all night on our dollar

.....work all day on theirs
Report Dr Crippen July 7, 2010 4:14 PM BST
They have to on their wages, but Aceme is a shrewd mother fikkerHe probably signs on as well.
Report Aceme July 7, 2010 4:31 PM BST
Not all Nod, but most cant afford to live on the wages, especially in the South East.Doubt anyone does it after a night at the station, it is done in their own time. Do you want to spend your weekends working to make up your wage?.Second jobs are only available cos those in the private sector dont want to do them, they would rather claim generous welfare, or think it is beneath them. Now the sh*t has hit the fan they will all be painting their own houses and doing their own gardens.

Never signed on in my life Crippen. Sounds like your one of those people i have often met in life, telling me to be careful, how it will all go wrong for me etc Pretending to offer advice but secretly hoping it will end in tears because they are bitter and jealous and want everyones life to be as crap as theirs. Left them well behind, still in the same rut, same old routine, spouting their  doom and gloom as the world moves on and others seize the opportunities.Anyone moaning on here about the lot of others are just the ones that havent taken the opportunities in their lives.
Report Dr Crippen July 7, 2010 4:55 PM BST
Poor old Aceme, he does seem unhappy.
By the way, how's the drinking going?
Report noddys ryde July 7, 2010 8:01 PM BST
Aceme-you still havn't explained why a private sector worker has to try to fund a pension for himself plus a better one for you.
Report Norma Stitz July 8, 2010 6:22 PM BST
Aceme, the title of this thread is,'Why should I pay for a Fireman's pension?'

All we've had from you so far is, extracts from the diary of an up himself, boring t w a t.
Report Aceme July 8, 2010 7:58 PM BST
Norma

Thank you for your kind words. Haven’t you realised yet that im just taking the piss out of monkeys like you and Dr Cretin. You believe everything you read in the papers… “fire-fighters deny army equipment”… where did you get that from, The Sun? Public sector pay outstrips private by 30%, that’s the latest one, and mugs like you believe it. Cretin just makes up his own stories, as we have seen.  So I view you both with the contempt you deserve, not to be taken seriously at all.

The bottom line is that your question is irrelevant to me. Do you really think I care what you think about paying a Firemans pension? In fact it’s beginning to make me happy to know you are paying my pension and are angry about it, can’t think why that is.
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Report Aceme July 8, 2010 7:59 PM BST
For any Firefighters reading this:

I have had my pension valued for potential transfer of rights, we can all do it, but many don’t know this, just contact the Fire Service pension scheme. Act now as it takes around 6 weeks to get a reply and valuation. Should my benefits be affected dramatically I have the option to take the money and invest it myself in a SIPP, commercial property, equities etc. I would not do this without professional financial advice. As an example a colleague of mine recently took his pension to invest elsewhere. For 24 years service he got 264k, obviously low as he is losing 6 double years. The thought of millions of public sector workers doing the same should ensure we won’t get shafted too badly. I expect an increase in contributions, initially about 2%, and an end to final salary. Years already accrued are ringfenced. Good luck.
Report Dr Crippen July 8, 2010 8:51 PM BST
By the way Aceme, how's the drinking going?
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