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Report Dr J December 21, 2009 12:33 PM GMT
Johnny Ball's solution:

"multinational companies can invest and provide jobs and a financial base on which to build towards equality for poorer nations with our rich end of the world"

Bless.
Report Powelliphanta superba superba December 21, 2009 1:10 PM GMT
Well Dr J if you are going to be selective in your reply then so will I.

In normal air, water is 60 times more present than CO2 but in rain storm or monsoon climates the ratio is far greater. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere accounts for one particle in 2,500. But man-made CO2 is at most four per cent of that, or one particle in every 62,500.

The first IPCC computer models which claimed that not just CO2, but man-made CO2, was causing global warming, did not allow for water at all and were scientificallyindefensible. Far from carrying a consensus many scientists resigned from the IPCC. But we all know that water affects climate. On a summer day, with cloud it is mild; no cloud andit is hot. On a winter night with cloud, temperatures stay mild; with no cloud the heat escapes upwards and we have morning frost. This is not rocket science its as plain as the nose on your face and it cannot be ignored.
Report wur December 21, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
Powelliphanta superba superba 21 Dec 14:10

Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere accounts for one particle in 2,500. But man-made CO2 is at most four per cent of that, or one particle in every 62,500.



The usual complete and utter cretinous crap from this brigade. The pre-industrial level of CO2 was 280 ppm. It's now 387 ppm. That's a 38% incease. Don't you people ever get embarrassed by your ignorance on this subject?
Report chopper9 December 21, 2009 1:46 PM GMT
Wur's response, typical of the moronic hysterical drivel we hear from a large proportion of your type.
Where exactly is the error in the post you are attacking.
Report chopper9 December 21, 2009 1:48 PM GMT
Although Dr J is wrong most of the time, at least he makes measured arguments.
Report grendel December 21, 2009 1:51 PM GMT
Why is it i can't find any science supporting the supposed general consensus that man-made co2 has significantly contributed to the rise of global temperatures, whereas there are endless articles that give logical reasons for the temperature rise, mainly highlighting the fact that 4 of the 5 strongest solar cycles ( of which we have just started cycle 24) have occurred in the last 50 years
Report blackburn1 December 21, 2009 1:51 PM GMT
Actually chopper its the other way round, quite often he is right, but his patronising and abusive posts create the problem.

Oh, and he is quite happy to, lets say, lie.
Report chopper9 December 21, 2009 1:59 PM GMT
Not trying to defend Dr J, just comparing to Wur's pathetic post, managing to be blatantly incorrect whilst hysterically attacking anyone who comes up with some facts about CO2
Report wur December 21, 2009 2:04 PM GMT
You are all anarchist liars with a political agenda to discredit western governments and you don't care how many moronic lies you have to tell in order to do it. Now, ain't that the truth? ;)
Report wur December 21, 2009 2:08 PM GMT
Cut & paste


The concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has reached a record high, according to the latest figures, renewing fears that climate change could begin to slide out of control.

Scientists at the Mauna Loa observatory in Hawaii say that CO2 levels in the atmosphere now stand at 387 parts per million (ppm), up almost 40% since the industrial revolution and the highest for at least the last 650,000 years.

The figures, published by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on its website, also confirm that carbon dioxide, the chief greenhouse gas, is accumulating in the atmosphere faster than expected. The annual mean growth rate for 2007 was 2.14ppm - the fourth year in the last six to see an annual rise greater than 2ppm. From 1970 to 2000, the concentration rose by about 1.5ppm each year, but since 2000 the annual rise has leapt to an average 2.1ppm
Report chopper9 December 21, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
And where exactly is Powell incorrect?
What is 1 million divided by 380?
Report grendel December 21, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
wur ... you are wrong, there have been periods in the past when there has been more co2 in the atmosphere than now, you are using a time to start from when the world was a lot colder than now .. and we all know that cold seas absorb co2 whereas warmer seas release co2

also the worlds population was about 1/7th it is now, what about the 6 more billion humans on earth breathing out 1kg of co2 per day, does that not go some way to explaining some more co2 ?
Report grendel December 21, 2009 2:24 PM GMT
go google some more lies
Report Rich1965 December 21, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
if the last few days of chaos are anything to go by then -THANK GOD FOR GLOBAL WARMING!!
Report treetop January 3, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
Its interesting to note how this issue always gets much less coverage by the BBC when the weather isn't agreeable to the climate change evangelists. What will the Millipedes do if this theory is found to be a load of**?
Report flatliner January 3, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
How about our own met office buying into the politics?

barbecue summer now we are having a "mild" winter according to their forcasts...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6924898/The-Met-Office-gives-us-the-warmist-weather.html
Report ieff7 January 3, 2010 8:22 PM GMT
Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century with temperatures hitting minus 16 degrees Celsius, forecasters have warned.
Weather patterns were more like those in the late 1970s, experts said, while Met Office figures released on Monday are expected to show that the country is experiencing the coldest winter for up to 25 years.Weather patterns were more like those in the late 1970s, experts said, while Met Office figures released on Monday are expected to show that the country is experiencing the coldest winter for up to 25 years.


rest of the ice age saga here :


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6921281/Britain-facing-one-of-the-coldest-winters-in-100-years-experts-predict.html
Report ieff7 January 3, 2010 8:27 PM GMT
Snow paralyses Beijing as China braces for big chill
A freezing front swept over much of northern China Sunday with snowstorms snarling road and air traffic, schools set to stay closed, and some of the lowest temperatures in decades forecast in coming days.

Temperatures could fall as low as -16 degrees Celsius in Beijing over the next few days
Snow storms were expected to continue through Monday and the mercury was set to plunge in the next 48 hours when China returns to work following a three-day New Year holiday, the Beijing meteorological station said.

Gale force winds sweeping down from Siberia could result in temperatures as low as minus 16 degrees Celsius (three degrees Fahrenheit) in the capital on Monday and Tuesday, it added.

In some parts of northern China temperatures were expected to drop as low as minus 32 degrees Celsius.

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rest of the ice age saga here :

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20100103/twl-snow-paralyses-beijing-as-china-brac-ef7dd21.html
Report Dr Crippen January 3, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century

Thats what I like - plenty of advanced warning.

The weather forecasts are so far out they wait for it to happen now before they predict it.
Report treetop January 3, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
Perhaps they are not directing their resources enough into predicting weather patterns crips?
Report flatliner January 4, 2010 10:54 AM GMT
£200 million a year the Met office gets, not enough?
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