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Larry's Codpiece.
16 Dec 09 22:33
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In the last three months employment in the public sector rose by 31,000.

The only sane response to this news is WTF?

How many paper clip straighteners and paper shufflers does one country need?

Mark my words. This won't just end in tears. There is going to be a full blown tantrum within 12 months.
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Report subversion December 16, 2009 11:39 PM GMT
latest predictions - UKs interest payments on debt will be approximately double the entire defence budget within a few years

hope everyones children enjoy paying this off
Report Ivor December 16, 2009 11:48 PM GMT
They'll need a few more thousand yet - just to manage the debt and maintain the statistics ensuring equality of recruitment. Also we need more personnel managers, trainers and wages staff to handle these 30k recruits and a few in Westminster to oversee the lot.
Report Larry's Codpiece. December 16, 2009 11:51 PM GMT
Still. As long as we have front line staff like these in our public services like the NHS I am sure we won't moan too much if the budget deficit goes up to £300 billion. After all debt is wealth:


* Communications Assistant
* GP Directorate Manager
* PA to Medical Director and PEC Chair
* Assistant Director Commissioning & Informatics
* Medical Directorate Administrator
* Strategic Programmes Director
* Primary Care Manager
* Public Health Project Manager
* Primary Care Commissioning Officer
* Long Term Conditions Administrator
* Resuscitation Educators
* Communications officer (media & campaigns)
* Senior Primary Care Commissioning Manager
* Long Term Conditions Commissioning Manager
* Commissioning Officer
* PA to Head of Urgent Care
* PA to Primary Care Commissioning
* Head of Urgent Care
* PA to Director of Commissioning & Informatics
* Head of Clinical Quality (Commissioning)
* Lead for Quality of care in care homes and End of Life Care
* Locality Manager - Children's Community Service
* Admin Support Primary Care Commissioning
* Information Governance Manager
* PA to Commissioning
* Public Health Strategy Manager
* Acting Co-ordinator (Substance Misuse)
* Liaison Officer
* Senior Administrator & Project Support
* Primary Care (GP) Support and Development
* Commissioning & Information Directorate
* Public Health Nurse Consultant
* Primary Care Development Manager
* Intermediate Care Coordinator
* Chief Executive
* Communications Officer
* Acting Deputy Chief Executive
* Director of Strategic Development
* Associate Director of HR
* Assistant Director of Information
* Primary Care Development Manager
* Clinical Governance Admin Support
* Knowledge Services
* Director of Primary and Community Services
* Public Health Analyst
* Public Health Intelligence Team
* Administration Support Officer
* Sexual Health Commissioning
* Service Development and Market Management
* Commissioning Project Officer
* Mental Health Commissioning Team
* Temporary Clinical Quality Administrator for Primary Care Independent Contractors
* Primary Care Support and Development Manager
* Clerical Officer
* Senior Administrator & Project Support
* Primary Care Commissioning
* Assistant Directors Commissioning & Informatics
* Core Learning Administrator
* Employee & Organisational Development Team
* Long Term Conditions Administration Officer
* Public Health Administrator
* Sexual Health Development Manager
* Clinical Governance Administrator
Report Prickard December 17, 2009 5:41 AM GMT
31,000 extra people who will now vote Labour to keep their jobs. I bet you they are all in marginals. Labour has been doing this since they got in.
Report V4 Vendetta December 17, 2009 6:36 AM GMT
I'll see if I can slip out at lunch with a brass "Winston Churchill", Brown needs a good Berlusconiing.
Report GAZO December 17, 2009 11:24 AM GMT
it can happen because we have a total loon running the country
Report Mister E December 17, 2009 11:46 AM GMT
MoD has nearly reached the stage where for each soldier there is one civilian office worker.

A bit like our Town Hall contracted out every service, sold off the baths hall, and the housing stock,
but employ twice as many people as thirty years ago.

Key objective this year was to


Effectively communicate our Mission Statement.


The lunatics are firmly in control of the asylum.
Report Mister E December 17, 2009 12:10 PM GMT
and why does the Head of the Equality Commission get a £1,000 per day?

Surely he should be on average earnings?
Report Larry's Codpiece. December 17, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
I am sure that one of our resident public servants like Dr J will be along shortly to clear this up.
Report Reyes December 17, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
Yvette would have no big announcements without this 'innovation'. Give a girl a break!
Report Dr J December 17, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
I am sure that one of our resident public servants like Dr J will be along shortly to clear this up.

Why?

Do you really think they run these policies by me before implementing them?
Report subversion December 17, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
not defending tax and waste policies any more Dr J? thats a first

you have kids, i hope they enjoy their future taxes going to pay for foreign bondholders investment returns rather than public services
Report A.H HUNTER esq. December 17, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
Scorched earth policy,nasty Tories will have to cut and save and resurrect the economy, about time we all worked out who the nasty party really are !!!!.
Report Big Ears December 17, 2009 7:22 PM GMT
Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money.
British PM Margaret Thatcher
Report Ivor December 17, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
Good old Gordies off writing blank cheques in KobenHavn now. Sterling / Krone - all the same to him.
Report Big Ears December 17, 2009 8:02 PM GMT
That's all he knows

Tax, borrow and spend

The worst Prime Minister this country has ever had, by a country mile
Report Dr J December 18, 2009 8:50 AM GMT
not defending tax and waste policies any more Dr J? thats a first

Not really. I hate waste and have always been highly critical of NL's private-works-best approach to delivering public services.

you have kids, i hope they enjoy their future taxes going to pay for foreign bondholders investment returns rather than public services

Again, no - I opposed the bail-out from day one.

Are you always this muddled in real life please, sub?

;)
Report Mister E December 18, 2009 10:16 AM GMT
Doc,

You seem to have become the punchbag for EVERYTHING that is wrong with New Labour.

Can I join in?


ITS ALRIGHT FOR YOU DOC YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL BE COPPING A FREEBIE AT BERLOSCONI'S VILLA THIS SUMMER.

BEEN ON ANY RUSSIAN MULTI BILLIONAIRES YACHTS AGAIN DOC?

That's better.
Merry Christmas.
:-)
Report DonWarro December 18, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
dr j - can you dig up a thread showing where you opposed the bailout pls. i seem to remember being a relatively lone voice in this respect, and whilst there were others, im fairly sure you weren't one of them.
Report Dr J December 18, 2009 3:02 PM GMT
ITS ALRIGHT FOR YOU DOC YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL BE COPPING A FREEBIE AT BERLOSCONI'S VILLA THIS SUMMER.

BEEN ON ANY RUSSIAN MULTI BILLIONAIRES YACHTS AGAIN DOC?


:D, Mister E.

Happy Christmas to you and yours too.
Report subversion December 18, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
i'm not talking about the bailout, Dr J

i'm talking about the interest payments on the national debt, which will rise rapidly as a result of the government running such a huge deficit

are you always this muddled in real life, please Dr J?
Report treetop December 18, 2009 6:24 PM GMT
Never worry,i will all become David Cameron's problem next March and as memories are so short he will take all the flak for doing something about it ! Simple isnt it ?
Report Arsenal Oldie December 18, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
does Gordon Moron believe that the UK economy will still work when 100% of us are in the public sector, and the tax take is zero?

his policies seem to be:

- crush all private enterprise
- discourage any hope of wealth creation
- tax, borrow and spend exponentially

madness.
Report Dr J December 18, 2009 9:40 PM GMT
i'm not talking about the bailout, Dr J

i'm talking about the interest payments on the national debt,


Er, I think you'll find the bail-out has had an effect on the national debt, sub...
Report Ronaldinho's dentist December 18, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
link to the vacancies which have just been filled please?
Report subversion December 18, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
you seem to have that same childish logical foolishness going there Dr J

the bailout is one variable, but far from the only variable, in the ridiculous national debt and deficit

just as CO2 is one variable, but far from the only variable, influencing the climate

funny how you constantly keep making the same mistake isn't it... and to think they allow you to teach students... i really do pity them
Report Dr J December 19, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
the bailout is one variable, but far from the only variable, in the ridiculous national debt and deficit

A pretty big variable, most people would say.

(Except you, sub, because you'd rather focus on a few extra schoolteachers and nurses than on the hundreds of billions poured into the banking system. Why? Because then you blame it all on 'dumb socialists' rather than the flawed capitalist structures that encouraged the financial collapse.)
Report madsimon December 19, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
i think Dr J shoudl acknowledge that most of the debt and nearly all of it (if you include unfiunded public sector pensiosn and PFI) has arisen out of too high general levels of public spending .

The bank bail out will cost very little compared to overspending in wasteful public sector areas and even compared to what the CIty of London brings in in terms of taxes .

Thats not to say I like bankers . I think the government should have been tougher with them and what goring says on here about the bankers is a joke.

But the blame of britains financial debt lies with labour and brown and his ego
Report madsimon December 19, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
Germanany has annouced wide ranging tax cuts recently -why? because they can and did not overspend in the good years and are not' uniquely well placed like Britain'.

if there is one thing I detest about Brown is that he insults the intelligence .
Report Dr J December 19, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
The bank bail out will cost very little compared to overspending in wasteful public sector areas

Rubbish.

Exactly how many Diversity Officers do you think NL hired? The banking giveaway has cost us £190bn, ffs.
Report madsimon December 19, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
so assuming that 190 billion is lost (which you know perfectly well it is not ) then that equates to about 20% of official debt and about 5% of unoccicial debt .

Now what casued the rest of the debt then?
Report Dr Crippen December 19, 2009 5:34 PM GMT
Our borrowing was too high before the recession started, but the recession and the banking crisis has turned an undesirable situation into what is now a cause for concern.
Everybody knows the borrowing will have to be brought down, but Labour are hanging fire on public sector cuts, because they insist cutting now will jeopardise our recovery out of recession.
Report madsimon December 19, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
but tewll me what is so important about a miniscule change in GDP now (becasue thats all it will be) that necessitates putting years on paying back the national debt in the future
Report Larry's Codpiece. December 19, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
Crippen belatedly says that the borrowing must be brought down when only a few months ago he was celebrating us spending beyond our means. It is people like that who carry a great responsibility for our current travails. As for listening to Brown on what "must be spent", I seem to have what must be an irrational feeling in that I don't think we should put our faith in those whose idiocy has brought us to our knees in the first place. I know that this Labour government's "record" has been built on the curious notion that those who balls up are the right people to put things right.

I prefer a far older doctrine that you don't reward incompetence.
Report Rich1965 December 19, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
Dr Crippen 19 Dec 18:34
Our borrowing was too high before the recession started, but the recession and the banking crisis has turned an undesirable situation into what is now a cause for concern.
Everybody knows the borrowing will have to be brought down, but Labour are hanging fire on public sector cuts, because they insist cutting now will jeopardise our recovery out of recession.

in that case why did they borrow so much BEFORE this all happened
Report Larry's Codpiece. December 19, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
Because Gordon had put an end to boom and bust.
Report long&short December 19, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
They all look like good solid jobs to me. I don't know what you are talking about.
Report Dr Crippen December 20, 2009 10:01 AM GMT
Larry's Codpiece. 19 Dec 22:22

Crippen belatedly says that the borrowing must be brought down when only a few months ago he was celebrating us spending beyond our means

A more accurate account would be:
Crippen says that borrowing needs to be brought down, he even pointed to the undesirable situation we were in, by starting a tongue in cheek thread about the subject a few years ago.

Most people saw the humour in that thread, but it was lost on Codswallop. Why does he have to misrepresent everything - force of habit?
Report treetop December 20, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
We need a lead from teh top,lets start by cutting the number of MP's and pass that on down through the public sector. Man in our office yesterday said our NHS is the second biggest employer in the world,apparently some company in China is the biggest.Well you would expect that !
Report long&short December 23, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
Indian railways are bigger and the Chinese Army is bigger but the NHS is more ruthless.
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