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There is a chance that Brown will win a GE, the likelihood is it will be Cameron. Regardless of who wins, how serious is our debt situation and what should be done to clear it and/or find work for the unemployed?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWbfvZF7-WQ
Here is the Bottler with all your answers, bb. |
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I'm not expecting too many replies chippie, the fools are kidding themselves.
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Hey Goring, 1:36 into that clip, I think he's talking to you. ;)
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blackburn-why are you asking supporters of a tax and spend party difficult questions like that?
If you do get an answer it will be "tax the bankers/Ashcroft/fox hunters etc etc" rather than entering into a serious debate on balancing the budget. |
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Yep noddy. Not one reply yet, just loads of threads about life under the tories.
If I was older and wealthier I would run a campaign to get Brown elected (I nearly put re-elected). Seeing the faces of the lefties as the axe falls on benefits and the public sector would be interesting viewing. |
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I agree -those who think that by voting labour they can protect cosy jobs and benefits are sadly mistaken. Secretly many liars do not want to win the next election because they will have to fight their union paymasters or call in the IMF in order to balance the books-easier for them to howl at the Tories when they take necessary measures.
There are no 2 ways out of this mess-there is just one-increased taxes AND reduced spending. |
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Easy, keep borrowing money until sterling is almost worthless, then even though we owe billions, even trillions, of pounds. In real terms we owe very little.
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Sounds like the banks strategy .....keep giving mortgages and loans at low rates to those who have no hope of paying them back.....we keep the bonuses and the taxpayer picks up the tab.
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blackie,
the answer is very serious. I can only see massive cuts in Public Services and increases in taxation. Re the unemployed..we have lost an opportunity that won't arise again for the foreseeable future. When we had relatively full employment we should have tackled the problem, instead we opened up the borders and fast tracked cheaper imported labour. Some still appear to be deluding themselves that cuts in service/increase in tax will only happen under the Conservatives..IMO ridiculous. |
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NR you type so much unadulterated bοllocks it almost hurts.
FACT: The banks don't loan to poor people FACT: Living on the dole (or equivalent) is NOT a life of luxury FACT: A majority of state benefit is not just for hoodie chavs in council estates in rough places - though they do recieve it too FACT: More of "Your" "Taxpayers money" goes to fighting wars and paying for equipment than to the poor people you seem to despise so much FACT: Far more has gone to bailing out Rich Bankers and shareholders than to the needy. People like you and the other twunts on here make me sick. You'd all like to see the return of Victorian Workhouses and soup kitchens. To see people homeless and on the street, unless they're prepared pick up your litter for less than a liveable wage. There are not enough jobs for the population, not all people who claim don't deserve it. Poor people are not criminals. Many wealthy people are, and what's more, they run things. |
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Notice you still dont come up with an answer study, just personal abuse and innaccuarate ranting
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To answer the initial question.
It doesn't matter who wins. Things will, or not, improve at the same rate. They're all greedy self-serving basstds, all parties, all politicians, and that will never change. If the public do OK out of anything, it's a by-product of what is doing a politician some good. |
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Still no answer to the question though, just more ranting and abuse.
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BB offended by personal abuse? is this like Ian Huntly being outraged at the lack of security checks on school workers?
I odn't know where this question is going BB, or where you would like ti to go, but the answer is clear public service cuts and tax increases. |
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And you, Blackbum, on the 3rd post of this thread were already calling people fools who hadn't even responded to you. No-one hurls more abuse than you, in fact with a few exceptions (your little clique of out of touch right-wing selfish gits) there is seldom a post where you don't call someone something disparaging. So don't tell me about fecking name-calling.
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Study-"far more has gone bailing out the bankers than the needy".
We were within hours of the ATMs failing to dispense cash. Not certain how letting them run out was going to help the needy. The regulators and the "government"were "bailed out" as much as the bankers. |
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I'm not offended in the slightest evski, I'm not as precious as you my love.
My old mate studyform loves to come on here and dish it out without ever making a contribution before disappearing looking sheepish again. To be fair though evski he's not as thick as you, he didn't have to wait till his 20s to pass a few simple exams |
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Still no answer then study just more abuse.
Its no wonder everyone thinks you're thick |
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Your answer:
What sort of a sodding question is it? What would you do if you were Prime Minister? It's unanswerable. Unless you are attempting to prove all 'lefties' know nothing about politics by asking them a bloody pointless question that even the best political minds can't fathom, even WITH the relevant information, |
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Great post from Studyform at 14.47, swiftly followed by highly comical hypocrisy from Blackburn.
Not just the relentless personal abuse either. He isn't too great at answering straight questions, unless you consider cutting and pasting from Tory journalists as a straight answer. |
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Chippie in Whitehall 23 Nov 13:57
Hey Goring, 1:36 into that clip, I think he's talking to you. 51.5 to be precise. |
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nr,
My rant -for want of a better word- was at your general attitude with regard (and blackbum this applies to you too), to the unemployed and "Scroungers", not specific costings to the nation. Daily Mail/Express type hearsay about how it's luxury being unemployed is miles from the truth, and you just perpetuate the nonsense. |
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btw Blackbum - once again, YOU started the personal abuse.
and fwiw - It is with consummate certainty that I can state, no-one, let alone everyone, thinks I'm think. Only you, and you're wrong about that too. |
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I think the economy would best be served by giving more incentive to work and earn more.
By having less taxation for all and less handouts. Make people accountable for their actions. I've heard many say "What's the use of slugging your guts out only to be taxed more" and "Why should I pay excessive tax to support bludgers" If people are earning more they are spending more, the economy grows and most will benefit except the lazy which is as it should be. |
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sheesh!
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blackburn 23 Nov 16:57
I'm not offended in the slightest evski, I'm not as precious as you my love. Why mention it then? My old mate studyform loves to come on here and dish it out without ever making a contribution before disappearing looking sheepish again. as opposed to your many constructive posts? To be fair though evski he's not as thick as you, he didn't have to wait till his 20s to pass a few simple exams Study may well be more intelligent than me, although since you have no education this post is a direct admission that I am more intelligent than you. Which puts me in the catagory" Dung beetles and more intelligent creatures". |
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blackburn 23 Nov 13:26
There is a chance that Brown will win a GE, the likelihood is it will be Cameron. Regardless of who wins, how serious is our debt situation and what should be done to clear it and/or find work for the unemployed? since we are in uncharted waters the only thing that is clear is that the Tory view was wrong and Labours view was right about what actions should have been taken. I am not a big supporter of the banks bail out but what was the alternative - economic depression and inevitable social turmoil. we may still see social turmoil but at least there is a plan to avert a potential Third World War. |
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blackburn your favourite radio programme has got to be-
sorry i havnt a clue! or is it the freudy night project on tv? |
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Regardless of who wins, how serious is our debt situation and what should be done to clear it and/or find work for the unemployed?
Amazing, the usual suspects pop up on the thread but not one of them had an answer. |
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the national debt is only about 55% of gdp right now
it has been as high as 250 % in the past in the 1950's and 1960's it can be brought down by world economic growth and some cuts as it has been in the past, notably when the tories handed over a deficit in 1997 which labour got rid of and its only this present worst world downturn since the 1930's that put it back up just remember the tories gave us two recession in much easier world economic climates and as regards the last question i think gordon brown should take some action to find blackburn a job so he no longer spends all his days sitting at home staring blankly at a betting site forum that hardly anybody reads |
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pussycat 23 Nov 21:09
we may still see social turmoil but at least there is a plan to avert a potential Third World War. Hello grass/stalker/nutjob. You need to word your posts more clearly. World War Three may bother me, but a 'third world' war is being raged all the time. I'm not bothered at all if africans want to spend their money on weapons and kill themselves. |
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This thread is a blatant fishing expedition, a ridiculous question designed to create guffaws and chuckling amongst some twunts.
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Still no answers then study.
Or from nearctic. Clueless the lot of you. |
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the national debt is only about 55% of gdp right now
it has been as high as 250 % in the past in the 1950's and 1960's it can be brought down by world economic growth and some cuts as it has been in the past, notably when the tories handed over a deficit in 1997 which labour got rid of and its only this present worst world downturn since the 1930's that put it back up just remember the tories gave us two recession in much easier world economic climates and as regards the last question i think gordon brown should take some action to find blackburn a job so he no longer spends all his days sitting at home staring blankly at a betting site forum that hardly anybody reads |
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Regardless of who wins, how serious is our debt situation and what should be done to clear it and/or find work for the unemployed?
Not good enough neo I'm afraid, you still haven't answered the question |
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NEARCTIC 24 Nov 09:30
the national debt is only about 55% of gdp right now it has been as high as 250 % in the past in the 1950's and 1960's it can be brought down by world economic growth and some cuts as it has been in the past, notably when the tories handed over a deficit in 1997 which labour got rid of and its only this present worst world downturn since the 1930's that put it back up just remember the tories gave us two recession in much easier world economic climates and as regards the last question i think gordon brown should take some action to find blackburn a job so he no longer spends all his days sitting at home staring blankly at a betting site forum that hardly anybody reads a lot more is being done for the unemployed than the tories ever did and a return to world growth will cut unemployment |
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1/10 but better than I expected from somebody who lacks the ability to think for themself
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I thought debt couldn't go above 40% of gdp-is the golden rule broken? If so when was this announced?
If you add in unfunded pubic sector pension liabilities and pfis then the true national debt is over 100% - and we used to laugh at Italy! |
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a few examples of blackburns " thinking for himself"
blackies answer to the eec- lets just get out right now blackies answer to afghanistan- lets just get out right now |