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18 Nov 09
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wot a load of tripe spouted by these climate warming headbangers, we used to have warmer summers years ago not like now. i gotta laugh when they say we will have weather like spain within 20yrs lol.
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All of these state employed scientists should be made to sign off their research with a prediction for the day they retire.
If that prediction is ludicrously wrong, they don't get a pension. I wonder if they will continue to make these 'end-of-civilisation' type predictions then....
If that prediction is ludicrously wrong, they don't get a pension. I wonder if they will continue to make these 'end-of-civilisation' type predictions then....
ffs u imbeciles - we've just had the highest day's rainfall ever recorded in the UK and yr saying climate change is a myth!! :^0
At least one resident of Cumbria said he had seen the river much higher when he was a lad of 11 in one report. Most sceptics are doubtful of the evangelist style of deceit emanating from the so called experts.
So every time we have a day when a weather record isn't broken, it must be proof that Climate change is a myth. ?:|
Presumably there was a previous 'heaviest ever day of rain' and before that a former 'heaviest day ever of rain' and a hottest day (there will be a hotter one some day) and a wettest month (there will be a wetter one some year) and a coldest August (there will be a colder one some year).
There's nothing unusual about records being broken - remember the four minute mile and the land speed record for cars?
There's nothing unusual about records being broken - remember the four minute mile and the land speed record for cars?
IPCC assessment reports will set climate policy for the foreseeable future, not the betfair forum and various internet foamers.
The sceptics are irrelevant until they prove (nobel prizes all round) another reason for the warming.
Get over it.
The sceptics are irrelevant until they prove (nobel prizes all round) another reason for the warming.
Get over it.
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg 23 Nov 23:15
ffs u imbeciles - we've just had the highest day's rainfall ever recorded in the UK and yr saying climate change is a myth!!
Ermmmmmm - one is weather, one is climate. Imbeciles?
ffs u imbeciles - we've just had the highest day's rainfall ever recorded in the UK and yr saying climate change is a myth!!
Ermmmmmm - one is weather, one is climate. Imbeciles?
The internet 'sceptics' are all tied up over the actual warming, often with comic results.
The scientific sceptics are mainly concerned with extent of human cause, some on relative impacts.
Very few qualified sceptics doubt any warming at all.
The scientific sceptics are mainly concerned with extent of human cause, some on relative impacts.
Very few qualified sceptics doubt any warming at all.
Actually the fashionable expression is now C.CHANGE not G.WARMING - and the issue is about what action, if any, to take and most importantly whether they can get billions of human beans in the world to play the same game.
Change your lightulbs, sort your rubbish, re-use your bags and your car 5-miles less a week - oh boy!
Change your lightulbs, sort your rubbish, re-use your bags and your car 5-miles less a week - oh boy!
It's all about the oil running out. I know this sounds a bit whacko to some, but the oil really is going to be the big story of the next 20 years.
How do we get people to stop using oil? Well, we could make up a story about the environment, and scare people into using less, or we could just let Armageddon happen and have our way of life changed for us........
How do we get people to stop using oil? Well, we could make up a story about the environment, and scare people into using less, or we could just let Armageddon happen and have our way of life changed for us........
the oil WILL run out - full stop. 2020, 2023.5, 2054 whatever- it will run out.
NASA and NOAA say no fact. But if you know better send it to the IPCC.
Making little trendlines prove what you want to believe in big data sets is great fun. Why don't you try it on a financial market sometime? Sell a big uptrend when your little line says down. You might catch the top.
But it usually ends up badly.
Making little trendlines prove what you want to believe in big data sets is great fun. Why don't you try it on a financial market sometime? Sell a big uptrend when your little line says down. You might catch the top.
But it usually ends up badly.
shab if that is true then surely the solution should be alternative energy solutions, not a tax on peoples CO2 output.
Even if mans CO2 emmissions are the primary cause of the changes in climate we see on this planet (i dont believe that by the way) then the solutions offered to tackle that simply don't make sense.
All thats going to happen is that industry is going to be crippled further costing thousands of jobs, and individuals will be taxed for their CO2 output in the process making a few select individuals (including Mr Gore) very wealthy.
Even if mans CO2 emmissions are the primary cause of the changes in climate we see on this planet (i dont believe that by the way) then the solutions offered to tackle that simply don't make sense.
All thats going to happen is that industry is going to be crippled further costing thousands of jobs, and individuals will be taxed for their CO2 output in the process making a few select individuals (including Mr Gore) very wealthy.
True, but the only way to change behaviour is by using cost.
Oil is by far the cheapest, easiest fuel to use. Getting people to change the way they live their lives will only happen if it is far cheaper to change than to continue as now.
If we don't change, over the course of probably a few months, oil will become prohibitively expensive for most. What then? Last year, oil hit $147 dollars. If that price had remained, we would all be looking at a very bleak future (economically).
Encourage people to change now, so when the inevitable happens, we will be prepared.
Oil is by far the cheapest, easiest fuel to use. Getting people to change the way they live their lives will only happen if it is far cheaper to change than to continue as now.
If we don't change, over the course of probably a few months, oil will become prohibitively expensive for most. What then? Last year, oil hit $147 dollars. If that price had remained, we would all be looking at a very bleak future (economically).
Encourage people to change now, so when the inevitable happens, we will be prepared.
My guess is that travel by oil will become the playground of the rich again. Milllions of people commuting in opposite directions to do the same job will stop. Millions of aeroplane miles per day will stop. Worldwide trade by supertanker will stop. We'll withdraw again to locally self-sufficient labour- intensive farming and old tribe-like simple lifestyles.
The remote tribes of South-America are still there without any of our luxuries or religions.
The remote tribes of South-America are still there without any of our luxuries or religions.
Shab 23 Nov 23:37
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg 23 Nov 23:15
ffs u imbeciles - we've just had the highest day's rainfall ever recorded in the UK and yr saying climate change is a myth!!
Ermmmmmm - one is weather, one is climate. Imbeciles?
eh?
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg 23 Nov 23:15
ffs u imbeciles - we've just had the highest day's rainfall ever recorded in the UK and yr saying climate change is a myth!!
Ermmmmmm - one is weather, one is climate. Imbeciles?
eh?
Please walk to your fridge (assuming you haven't disposed off it in an environmentalist way) - take out your milk container and pour the contents down the sink, then try and make a milky coffee.
Oil will not run out in my lifetime. However, peak oil will happen, and I think soon. That is where the demand for oil is greater than what can be produced.
We are very close to that now, and the global recession has resulted in a drop in demand. But when things are back to normal, it will be even closer.
By the time the Indians and Chinese start buying serious numbers of cars (they already buy loads now) we will be even closer.
And we have to find massive amounts of new oil just to stand still.
We are very close to that now, and the global recession has resulted in a drop in demand. But when things are back to normal, it will be even closer.
By the time the Indians and Chinese start buying serious numbers of cars (they already buy loads now) we will be even closer.
And we have to find massive amounts of new oil just to stand still.
However, peak oil will happen, and I think soon. That is where the demand for oil is greater than what can be produced.
no its not. peak oil is the point of the highest ever production rate of oil
no its not. peak oil is the point of the highest ever production rate of oil
If you want to discuss 'Twighlight in the Desert' we can. I thought I would dumb it down a bit so others might understand why peak oil is relevant.
The bottom line is that once demand exceeds that, prices will get scary.
The bottom line is that once demand exceeds that, prices will get scary.
what do u mean by 'demand exceeding supply'?? demand will always exactly match supply, governed by the price of the commodity
I thought I would dumb it down a bit
u mean 'completely mis-define 'peak oil'' :^0
u mean 'completely mis-define 'peak oil'' :^0
what do u mean by 'demand exceeding supply'?? demand will always exactly match supply, governed by the price of the commodity
Yes, that's the point. So we use less, or pay more to use the same amount.
Yes, that's the point. So we use less, or pay more to use the same amount.
Shab 24 Nov 00:09
True, but the only way to change behaviour is by using cost.
Oil is by far the cheapest, easiest fuel to use. Getting people to change the way they live their lives will only happen if it is far cheaper to change than to continue as now.
Well I got there half an hour ago.
True, but the only way to change behaviour is by using cost.
Oil is by far the cheapest, easiest fuel to use. Getting people to change the way they live their lives will only happen if it is far cheaper to change than to continue as now.
Well I got there half an hour ago.
you need it - you have a faith in both climate change AND infinite oil!
i didnt say it was infinite i said it would never 'run out'
- no more milk in the fridge - god your hard work.
Goodnight (don't forget to turn the lights out when you come up).
Goodnight (don't forget to turn the lights out when you come up).
ffs. there will always be some oil in the world. ffs
u can make oil from sunflowers if yr really desperate
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