New Posts For Thread: Which does the UK taxpayer spend more on?https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-onChoice of two for this one:1. Subsidies that benefit owners of UK farmland2. Subsidies that benefit owners of non-UK farmlandGotta love Malvinas. Kinda like Wolfy shouting Up the revolution.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549771167#549771167Gotta love Malvinas. Kinda like Wolfy shouting Up the revolution.Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:15:00 -0500.http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/newsroom/292_en.htmThe EU has decided that milk is too cheap, and thanks to an Irish Commissioner for farming is about to spend 150m Euro of your money paying people who are good at producing milk cheaply not to do thhttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549770869#549770869.http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/newsroom/292_en.htmThe EU has decided that milk is too cheap, and thanks to an Irish Commissioner for farming is about to spend 150m Euro of your money paying people who are good at producing milk cheaply not to do thFri, 26 Aug 2016 17:21:14 -0500Interesting stuff.What I noticed about the big, rich, arablwe farms of East Anglia was that there were many cases of one rich dude owning acres and acres with the actual farming left to "managers" or tenants plus the labourr force ( which was gratlyhttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549506225#549506225Interesting stuff.What I noticed about the big, rich, arablwe farms of East Anglia was that there were many cases of one rich dude owning acres and acres with the actual farming left to "managers" or tenants plus the labourr force ( which was gratlyMon, 01 Aug 2016 06:38:42 -0500I don't see what owning the land has to do with anything. If you owned a widget factory and the Government asked you to cease producing widgets for a year, you would seek financial compensation for doing so which is what set aside was. Set aside washttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549498351#549498351I don't see what owning the land has to do with anything. If you owned a widget factory and the Government asked you to cease producing widgets for a year, you would seek financial compensation for doing so which is what set aside was. Set aside wasSun, 31 Jul 2016 12:14:00 -0500"Set aside was a policy for several years when certain crops were in surplus across the EU, but you only qualified for payment if you left some land fallow (so made no other income from it) and you had been growing those crops in previous years. Andhttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549484685#549484685"Set aside was a policy for several years when certain crops were in surplus across the EU, but you only qualified for payment if you left some land fallow (so made no other income from it) and you had been growing those crops in previous years. AndSat, 30 Jul 2016 07:13:08 -0500bongo, all farm "subsidies" or support stems from WW2 when food was rationed and food security was a vital part of any Government policy. We had a farm support policy from 1948 when a minimum price was negotiated for most products in order to avoid shttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549484565#549484565bongo, all farm "subsidies" or support stems from WW2 when food was rationed and food security was a vital part of any Government policy. We had a farm support policy from 1948 when a minimum price was negotiated for most products in order to avoid sSat, 30 Jul 2016 06:54:50 -0500Set aside was a policy for several years when certain crops were in surplus across the EU, but you only qualified for payment if you left some land fallow (so made no other income from it) and you had been growing those crops in previous years.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549484509#549484509Set aside was a policy for several years when certain crops were in surplus across the EU, but you only qualified for payment if you left some land fallow (so made no other income from it) and you had been growing those crops in previous years.Sat, 30 Jul 2016 06:46:45 -0500In the late 19th century the US President at the time said this when asked to provide hand outs for Texan farmers:I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general governmhttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549480185#549480185In the late 19th century the US President at the time said this when asked to provide hand outs for Texan farmers:I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general governmFri, 29 Jul 2016 18:01:19 -0500I take your point, shaky. Finite is finite. Land is finite. We took the advice from the rulers and bought land. However, we still got evicted off our own land.That said, 'tis the best way to get as far from the Machine as possible, but the freedom ishttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549476519#549476519I take your point, shaky. Finite is finite. Land is finite. We took the advice from the rulers and bought land. However, we still got evicted off our own land.That said, 'tis the best way to get as far from the Machine as possible, but the freedom isFri, 29 Jul 2016 13:19:10 -0500The annual subsidy to EDF and other energy companies will be many times the total subsidies paid to farmers and these days, the only payments to farmers are for environmental reasons. Even at the height of the subsidies in the 70's and 80's there werhttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/30717479/which-does-the-uk-taxpayer-spend-more-on?post_id=549466289#549466289The annual subsidy to EDF and other energy companies will be many times the total subsidies paid to farmers and these days, the only payments to farmers are for environmental reasons. Even at the height of the subsidies in the 70's and 80's there werThu, 28 Jul 2016 14:26:38 -0500