New Posts For Thread: The flaws of the bedroom tax on housing benefit come april 2013https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013What is a spare bedroom = 1 bedroom is considered as being required for 1, a couple2, an adult over 16,3,any 2 children under 10,4, 2 children under 16 of the same sex.It does not matter how the spare bedroom is used. The new rules will apply even ifThe DWP have published some survey data to get an idea of the challenges ahead when Universal Credit comes in:I like IDS - he wants people on full and partial housing benefit to take more responsibility for themselves, he wants to pay them directly ahttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=527666097#527666097The DWP have published some survey data to get an idea of the challenges ahead when Universal Credit comes in:I like IDS - he wants people on full and partial housing benefit to take more responsibility for themselves, he wants to pay them directly aTue, 01 Jan 2013 16:26:44 -0600And the savers are subsidising the home-owners and Let2buy mortgage payers.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525498683#525498683And the savers are subsidising the home-owners and Let2buy mortgage payers.Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:33:17 -0500Let's add the Camden money-spunkers to Dr Crippen's tabulation:Property Worcester North Birmingham Black Country Solihull Camden ( Central ) Camden ( Inner North ) 1 Room Rate shared facilitiehttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525464359#525464359Let's add the Camden money-spunkers to Dr Crippen's tabulation:Property Worcester North Birmingham Black Country Solihull Camden ( Central ) Camden ( Inner North ) 1 Room Rate shared facilitieThu, 25 Oct 2012 14:19:09 -0500The LHA rate for any area, is taken by calculating the average private rental rate for the area, and then taking off about another ten per cent.It’s not the demand for LHA that forces up the rents, it’s the demand for private rentals that does thttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525456945#525456945The LHA rate for any area, is taken by calculating the average private rental rate for the area, and then taking off about another ten per cent.It’s not the demand for LHA that forces up the rents, it’s the demand for private rentals that does tThu, 25 Oct 2012 11:19:35 -0500What's this the Twilight Zone?''If rent is £1000, tenant pays £500 & taxpayer pays £500'' This fantasy land, LHA can be claimed by people on a low income who qualify.I'd like to see proof of some of these sort of arrangements.Meanwhile here's somehttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525456339#525456339What's this the Twilight Zone?''If rent is £1000, tenant pays £500 & taxpayer pays £500'' This fantasy land, LHA can be claimed by people on a low income who qualify.I'd like to see proof of some of these sort of arrangements.Meanwhile here's someThu, 25 Oct 2012 11:04:06 -0500Well done SS - may have taken nearly 5 hours but we now agree your post at 11:55 was incorrect.The taxpayer is "actually subsidising the unemployed or the lower paid with Housing Benefit". The landlord also gets a good deal.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525455481#525455481Well done SS - may have taken nearly 5 hours but we now agree your post at 11:55 was incorrect.The taxpayer is "actually subsidising the unemployed or the lower paid with Housing Benefit". The landlord also gets a good deal.Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:40:39 -0500Ok. I'll settle for that. Progresshttps://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525455061#525455061Ok. I'll settle for that. ProgressThu, 25 Oct 2012 10:27:36 -0500I'd say in my example they are both subsidised. At the expense of the private tenant/worker who as Mexico says gets a double whammy.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525454595#525454595I'd say in my example they are both subsidised. At the expense of the private tenant/worker who as Mexico says gets a double whammy.Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:13:32 -0500So the private landlord actually gets MORE than the market rent.Could you explain how this is not a subsidy ?https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525454427#525454427So the private landlord actually gets MORE than the market rent.Could you explain how this is not a subsidy ?Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:07:55 -0500Agree Java -The private renter is the guy suffering - he would have got the place for £850 (in your example) but because of the State subsidy he pays more tax and pays more rent.There is plenty of state intervention in the housing market.https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/29324413/the-flaws-of-the-bedroom-tax-on-housing-benefit-come-april-2013?post_id=525454365#525454365Agree Java -The private renter is the guy suffering - he would have got the place for £850 (in your example) but because of the State subsidy he pays more tax and pays more rent.There is plenty of state intervention in the housing market.Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:06:03 -0500