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More here:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2011/04/15/goes-versus-online-poker-sites/ |
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More here:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/April11/scheinbergetalindictmentpr.pdf |
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This is massive for the future of online poker, amazed it hasn't attracted more interest. The websites for FTP, PS and AP have been frozen. Funnily enough the servers are still up though. I am currently playing a SNG at FTP.
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The servers are not based in the US, that's why.
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Same as that wykh. Turtle I think you have that the wrong way around. Does not matter where the server is if the ISP and/or naming providers take it down it is game over.
This is huge,cannot believe there are only 4 posts on it here and 1 thread |
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If the websites stay locked they cannot continue to operate for very long, thats for sure. Luckily I only have a few dollars tied up at those sites. If I had more I would be quite worried. Thank god I am not american too.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/15/us-poker-fraud-idUSTRE73E6SF20110415
I get it now. They were done for entertaining US customers by routing them through a proxy |
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If you are not American based you have no issue at all and are sure to get yuor dough back. If you are American not only have you done your dough but you are facing prosecution on at least 2 levels 1) gambling 2)dodging tax on winnings
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Well I know for a fact the stars server is based in the IOM, I don't think the American authorities have any juristriction there and could presumably run the entire lot from there if they don't already. Also, in one of the articles it mentions that the domain name for one has been seized, leading to fed messages if you try to go to the site, well, that hasn't lasted very long as the normal info appears when I tried a little while ago!
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(in other words, I think we may be panicking unneccessarily)
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The websites have been seized. If you are still getting the normal stuff up its just because not all the nameservers have updated yet, or its cached in your browser.
It's too early to say yet what will happen. Being based outside the USA didn't help BP much did it? |
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Well, try logging on to all of the sites tomorrow, I doubt there will be any difference to now.
Pretty silly comparison with BP, I doubt if they could run their entire operation from the IOM, do you?  End of the day, they will find a way around it somehow, there are millions of people who want to play there, and there is too much money involved for them to just chuck in the towel. |
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Actually, you may have a point, I'm playing 4 sit and gos and there isn't a single american on any of them, nor are there any on all of the ones in the lobby
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Try clicking on Withdrawal in the cashier at ftp. You will find that you cannot create a secure connection with the payment processor.
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That may be because everyone is trying to withdraw their money all at once, overloading things.
Hope so anyway, I've got $1500 there  |
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It's fine for me, probably just busy.
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well I tried quite a few times and always got the same message. I assume you are also based in the UK is it?
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Yep, maybe it has something to do with the ISP? If you are with AOL / Talktalk for example I'd guess that would be it.
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No I use Sky broadband.
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Very odd. I got to step 3, confirmation of withdrawl without any issues.
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i dont think it will affect players in other countries tbh other than less players at tables ... similar to when block first put on it only concerns americans ...
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There's an announcement from ps when you log in, only affects US customers.
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To be honest I think the uk government needs to step in and force america to sort its affairs out.
Its getting ridiculous all this on and off police involvement. It affects all players even those outside america. In the Uk we have a regulated and enjoyable gambling industry and culture made up of sports betting and poker and casinos. These sites advertise on our televisions so we should expect that we can play on these sites safely and without worry. Apart obviously from losing our money at the tables. However once again theres this talk of FBI and seizing money and stuff. No one knows if the sites will go bust or shut down completely and I think its unacceptable for this type of situation to keep occuring. America needs to decide once and for all what the rules are for its players so the rest of the world can enjoy the game without these hassles. |
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they have strict rules in place ... sites/punters found a way round them ... now they've been found out
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Hope you're right. I just tried to log in to FTP; got a message that new software to install. Then a message saying unable to connect to website to download. Anyone else have this problem?
PS also had an update, which went successfully. They are basically redirecting everything to a .eu domain outside US jurisdiction. They cannot stop the FBI extraditing the owners though so not sure if it will be business as usual. |
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as has happened previously the owners would be arrested if they set foot in america ... i would think that any issues with the sites just now for non americans is because they will have to change the software ... hope so
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Poor Americans...
Any news on whether guarantees will/when guarantees change and if scoop will still go off as planned. Why only the three major sites? Thanks |
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Bottom line is not security or money laundering, it's all about the US getting a new source of revenue. As soon thy can make money out of it, US players will be allowed.
I listen to the Two plus Two pokercast podcast each week and the way they were describing, things were moving along swiftly with online play. It's already been allowed in several US states where residents only can play and ps have been jumping through hoops to get US customers. This move seems very underhand by many that oppose online gaming. |
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Looks like a publicity stunt by the FBI to me.
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maybe one of the fbi agents had his aces beat by 72o or something ...
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hows this going to pan out in next few days? I see on PS there are no players from U.S. currently playing in any tournaments, though there are still some registered for million and warm-up tomorrow. Will there be no yanks playing for forseeable future and they just get unregistered from all events?
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can someone who has been following this story on all the other poker forums answer a couple of questions for me please,
1.is this only going to affect american players and american poker sites? 2.could this affect use in any way on betfair? 3.should we keep the amount in our accounts to a minimum? |
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If all U.S. players are withdrawn from the big tournaments, surely P.S will withdraw their guarantees re min prize funds - otherwise there'll be a massive underlay (or is it overlay, never sure which is which but you know what i mean)
Also, its ok to say keep funds to a minimum, but if you were to enter a big tourney and get lucky and in line to win a 6-figure sum, surely there's a doubt as to whether you'll be able to cash it all in ? |
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they have already started reducing the guarantees
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If you have an account at full tilt you need to go to fulltiltpoker.co.uk and download the software update from there
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Chip couints on our 4 valiant warriors with 38 left in!
Klup 28k Vaino 56.5k Fergie28 25.5k Alex 15k |
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LOL sorry wrong thread.
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This is just nevada protecting its interests with its bricks and mortar casinos. All seems a bit to much like sopranos and goodfellas ' give us your money or we close down your business'
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The daily mail, with their usual attention to accuracy:
...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377470/Poker-websites-shut-FBI-probe-end-online-gambling.html I see they've changed their headline from "Game over! FBI shut three of largest poker sites in probe that could end online gambling" to "Game over! FBI warning replaces three of largest poker sites in probe that could end online gambling It's still cobblers  |
