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01 Feb 11
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im still waiting for stt prize money, and now lb has dissappered from site.
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I won a London live package that I wanted to exchange for cash and haven't seen any money or recieved any info.
Great innit!
Great innit!
first one to receive prize mountain gift wins a kitten.
will ship to any location in uk via royal mail.
will ship to any location in uk via royal mail.
Got the MTT prize and sat ticket, and played it. Missed out on seat but got 4/4 ticket which could not play on sunday. So in this sunday.
Presumably the other leaderboards had later finish date and it may be sunday/mondays maintenance has prevented doing it.
A simple call should get an answer. Quite honestly can't see why they should not e-mail winners each time and let know when it will happen.
Presumably the other leaderboards had later finish date and it may be sunday/mondays maintenance has prevented doing it.
A simple call should get an answer. Quite honestly can't see why they should not e-mail winners each time and let know when it will happen.
Might be to do with this situation playing out to its conclusion, since I read it as these two were in the top 5 of the LB.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/betfair-snap-banning-players-silly-reasons-969316/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/betfair-snap-banning-players-silly-reasons-969316/
i have genuinely played against them both probably 200 times at 20$ d2n.
wheres my refund ?
wheres my refund ?
I've been paid out for my 7th place on the leaderboard so if higher placed players have been banned then they haven't moved anyone up. No names were "missing" of the final leaderboard, not from the top 10 anyway.
The perps, in the thread, have said that their names are both still on the LB, and that the current funds in their accounts have been returned, and the accounts closed permanently, just before the rake race ended.
If BF are returning funds to the perps, then they obv aren't planning to compensate any victims. BF also get to pocket 2 chunky LB payments, as things stand, and 2 more chunky RB payments.
Looks more like the kind of opportunism that saw BF profit from the currency fluctuation, during the extended outage, than any great committment to keeping games collusion free.
If BF are returning funds to the perps, then they obv aren't planning to compensate any victims. BF also get to pocket 2 chunky LB payments, as things stand, and 2 more chunky RB payments.
Looks more like the kind of opportunism that saw BF profit from the currency fluctuation, during the extended outage, than any great committment to keeping games collusion free.
NO SCREENNAMES ON THREAD WHICH IS A SHAME.
I WA SPAYED 2ND PRIZE MONEY TODAY FOR JAN STT RACE.
SO WHO'S BEEN BANNED?
I WA SPAYED 2ND PRIZE MONEY TODAY FOR JAN STT RACE.
SO WHO'S BEEN BANNED?
i'm assuming it's larseda. and titoroxe ?
ever since these fkng leaderboards and rake races started the 20$ D2NS have been a nightmare. me, gnasher, and windings were on about it the other week. every month players appear from nowhere, play a few thousand games, and vanish to be replaced the following month by players almost identical but with different user names.
about 18 months ago i was approached and informally asked if i fancied moving abroad for a year and joining a team playing d2ns 8 hours a day. it was never made clear whether it would be account sharing or colluding as i didnt really show an interest.
however its abundantly clear from playing styles, that at the very least account sharing is going on. we have been saying for months on here every promotion is geared towards high volume cake machines who are new to the site. is it any wonder teams are opening new accounts every 2 months ?
anyone with half a brain would get 4 or 5 competent d2n players. get them working in shifts on one or 2 accounts, take advantage of the simultaneous rake race,sign up bonus and leaderboards, and as long as they are running no worse than -2 or -3% roi it's a licence to print money.once the sign up bonus runs out, openanother account. onceyou have run out of credit/debit cards move to another site.
lets be honest if bf actually banned someone it must have been blatant. probably playing from the same building. either that or someone has reported them.
by incentivising these people by running a rake race alongside a leaderboard that is also a rake race while at the same time totally overlooking the decent recreational regs they are killing the site.
ever since these fkng leaderboards and rake races started the 20$ D2NS have been a nightmare. me, gnasher, and windings were on about it the other week. every month players appear from nowhere, play a few thousand games, and vanish to be replaced the following month by players almost identical but with different user names.
about 18 months ago i was approached and informally asked if i fancied moving abroad for a year and joining a team playing d2ns 8 hours a day. it was never made clear whether it would be account sharing or colluding as i didnt really show an interest.
however its abundantly clear from playing styles, that at the very least account sharing is going on. we have been saying for months on here every promotion is geared towards high volume cake machines who are new to the site. is it any wonder teams are opening new accounts every 2 months ?
anyone with half a brain would get 4 or 5 competent d2n players. get them working in shifts on one or 2 accounts, take advantage of the simultaneous rake race,sign up bonus and leaderboards, and as long as they are running no worse than -2 or -3% roi it's a licence to print money.once the sign up bonus runs out, openanother account. onceyou have run out of credit/debit cards move to another site.
lets be honest if bf actually banned someone it must have been blatant. probably playing from the same building. either that or someone has reported them.
by incentivising these people by running a rake race alongside a leaderboard that is also a rake race while at the same time totally overlooking the decent recreational regs they are killing the site.
im really not sure.
i got 2nd money, soft says he got 5th money, wing ditto with 7th.
titoroxe and larseda tend to play diff games, lareseda mainly a 5 man turbo player,
aideta, hitmesoft larseda and wingding all mainly 5 man turbo palyers
titoroxe, brhunter mainly play d2n.titoroxe been about last 2 months, hunter only appered on boards this month.
i got 2nd money, soft says he got 5th money, wing ditto with 7th.
titoroxe and larseda tend to play diff games, lareseda mainly a 5 man turbo player,
aideta, hitmesoft larseda and wingding all mainly 5 man turbo palyers
titoroxe, brhunter mainly play d2n.titoroxe been about last 2 months, hunter only appered on boards this month.
I'm fairly sure BRhunter is the guy posting on 2+2, he didn't play at all on the last 2 days, only one game the day before, played loads prior to that. Fits exactly with the comments on the forum, account locked near the end of the promo, briefly unlocked, then locked again.
Having re read the thread I am now 100% certain it is BRhunter. He started playing $10 games half way through the promotion which seemed strange as they didn't count for the Gold board. Guy on thread says he started mixing in $10 games as he was running bad. This along with the abrubt end looks conclusive to me.
so................
so................
Mekidon looks like the other guy, stopped within a couple of hours of brhunter.
So.............
So.............
defo its brhunter, dont desperatly remember much of mekidon, remember the seeing the name, dont remember much of the playin style.
thou looks like wingding will b correct.
thou looks like wingding will b correct.
i havent seen titoroxe at the tables for days, and he was playing an absolute shedload during the promos.have to say his playing style was pretty constant.
i actually deleted the notes i had on brhunter, as i was convinced after about a week i wasn't playing the same player every time i played him.
looks like you were right about the cake gnashers, deffo appears to be about 3-4 days short, so looks like we aren't getting paid for the weekend it went t1ts up.
i actually deleted the notes i had on brhunter, as i was convinced after about a week i wasn't playing the same player every time i played him.
looks like you were right about the cake gnashers, deffo appears to be about 3-4 days short, so looks like we aren't getting paid for the weekend it went t1ts up.
If BRhunter and Mekidon have been thrown out, then everyone below them shoulfd be getting a bigger payout. Would mean an extra $250 in my case.
Not Gonna hold my breath though.
Not Gonna hold my breath though.
my cake well short. 1500 22 dollar games, 200 33 games, and some cash play equals 800 quid allegedy.
thing is they are charging 10% on d2ns compared to 5% almost everywhere else.
the rakeback makes it just about possible to stomach them overcharging, but when they dont pay that it becomes impossible to justify playing here any days when the site is playing up. which at the moment is pretty much every day.
the rakeback makes it just about possible to stomach them overcharging, but when they dont pay that it becomes impossible to justify playing here any days when the site is playing up. which at the moment is pretty much every day.
BRhunter mekiDON Combined
Total Played 2242 827
Played Together 259 259
Av. ROI Apart -2% -1% -1.5%
Av. ROI Together -10% -7% -8.5%
Given how bad betfair are at catching the obvious cheaters, it would be comical if they have thrown out a couple of innocents.
Total Played 2242 827
Played Together 259 259
Av. ROI Apart -2% -1% -1.5%
Av. ROI Together -10% -7% -8.5%
Given how bad betfair are at catching the obvious cheaters, it would be comical if they have thrown out a couple of innocents.
Latest on 2 plus 2. Pretty weird to ban them then give them their money back + leaderboards.
After reviewing the matter once more and having considered your testimonies, together with all other facts, such as links and player statistics, we can say that there is enough evidence to point out collusive behaviour.
It does not have to be ‘clear’ that collusion is taking place via the hands alone, and hence on this occasion the evidence comes together as a collective. Any behaviour that results in players having an unfair advantage cannot be tolerated and that is why both accounts will remain blocked.
However we can see that you were placed on the January Gold Leaderboard which we are happy to uphold. Your account was credited with $909.27 which will of course be returned to your registered payment method today.
Kind Regards,
Investigations Team
Im finished on the January Gold Leaderboard 6.place= 1250$,not 909.27$
I NEVER made collusion with other players at the poker tables !!!!!!!
After reviewing the matter once more and having considered your testimonies, together with all other facts, such as links and player statistics, we can say that there is enough evidence to point out collusive behaviour.
It does not have to be ‘clear’ that collusion is taking place via the hands alone, and hence on this occasion the evidence comes together as a collective. Any behaviour that results in players having an unfair advantage cannot be tolerated and that is why both accounts will remain blocked.
However we can see that you were placed on the January Gold Leaderboard which we are happy to uphold. Your account was credited with $909.27 which will of course be returned to your registered payment method today.
Kind Regards,
Investigations Team
Im finished on the January Gold Leaderboard 6.place= 1250$,not 909.27$
I NEVER made collusion with other players at the poker tables !!!!!!!
Kind of why I linked the 2 threads. Latest post doesn't fill you with confidence 
After reviewing the matter once more and having considered your testimonies, together with all other facts, such as links and player statistics, we can say that there is enough evidence to point out collusive behaviour.
It does not have to be ‘clear’ that collusion is taking place via the hands alone, and hence on this occasion the evidence comes together as a collective. Any behaviour that results in players having an unfair advantage cannot be tolerated and that is why both accounts will remain blocked.
However we can see that you were placed on the January Gold Leaderboard which we are happy to uphold. Your account was credited with $909.27 which will of course be returned to your registered payment method today.
Kind Regards,
Investigations Team
Im finished on the January Gold Leaderboard 6.place= 1250$,not 909.27$
I NEVER made collusion with other players at the poker tables !!!!!!!
After reviewing the matter once more and having considered your testimonies, together with all other facts, such as links and player statistics, we can say that there is enough evidence to point out collusive behaviour.
It does not have to be ‘clear’ that collusion is taking place via the hands alone, and hence on this occasion the evidence comes together as a collective. Any behaviour that results in players having an unfair advantage cannot be tolerated and that is why both accounts will remain blocked.
However we can see that you were placed on the January Gold Leaderboard which we are happy to uphold. Your account was credited with $909.27 which will of course be returned to your registered payment method today.
Kind Regards,
Investigations Team
Im finished on the January Gold Leaderboard 6.place= 1250$,not 909.27$
I NEVER made collusion with other players at the poker tables !!!!!!!
interesting comment from brhunter :
In europe there is a huge pokerschool and affiliate with german management. we have DON trainer at my community, with regular training. and thats a relatively strait group.
about 18 months ago 2 teams of german colluders were banned from the bf site, and one of those teams had took a lot of money from the high stakes regs during the aussie millions promo. i'm not saying the two are in any way connected, but the comment " relatively strait (sic)" doesn't inspire confidence.
it's also worth remembering that just because players aren't winning doesn't mean they arent colluding.
and of course colluding can take many shapes and forms. were more than one player to be using an account to rack up rake race points is that not a form of collusuion ?
it's very unusual for bf to ban players who are generating that kind of income for them, so clearly something iffy has gone on. i suspect the answer lies with ip addresses.
In europe there is a huge pokerschool and affiliate with german management. we have DON trainer at my community, with regular training. and thats a relatively strait group.
about 18 months ago 2 teams of german colluders were banned from the bf site, and one of those teams had took a lot of money from the high stakes regs during the aussie millions promo. i'm not saying the two are in any way connected, but the comment " relatively strait (sic)" doesn't inspire confidence.
it's also worth remembering that just because players aren't winning doesn't mean they arent colluding.
and of course colluding can take many shapes and forms. were more than one player to be using an account to rack up rake race points is that not a form of collusuion ?
it's very unusual for bf to ban players who are generating that kind of income for them, so clearly something iffy has gone on. i suspect the answer lies with ip addresses.
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